Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement

ScottF · 02-19-2020, 03:02 PM

Maybe we tender Hill at 3.1 million, which is a second round pick if matched. We're not exactly flush with cash, but that seems fair to me.
Thoughts?

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2020, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Maybe we tender Hill at 3.1 million, which is a second round pick if matched. We're not exactly flush with cash, but that seems fair to me.
Thoughts?

No way in my book. Hill is worth more than that with the way he can contribute to our offense ... and not even at QB. He is well worth the $4.6 million tender amount for the first round pick. There is a good chance all teams would let him ride knowing they would have to contract him to a higher number than $4.6 million AND forfeit their first round pick. Given that we'd have him for the $4.6 million number.

If we slap the second round tender on him some team might be more willing to offer him a deal averaging $7 million per season, for example, knowing they would only be losing a second round pick. We could then only retain him by matching that $7 million or take the second rounder.

To me it is a slam dunk using the first round tag. Win/win.

And we have FAR more cap available than the current numbers show.

ScottF · 02-20-2020, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No way in my book. Hill is worth more than that with the way he can contribute to our offense ... and not even at QB. He is well worth the $4.6 million tender amount for the first round pick. There is a good chance all teams would let him ride knowing they would have to contract him to a higher number than $4.6 million AND forfeit their first round pick. Given that we'd have him for the $4.6 million number.

If we slap the second round tender on him some team might be more willing to offer him a deal averaging $7 million per season, for example, knowing they would only be losing a second round pick. We could then only retain him by matching that $7 million or take the second rounder.

To me it is a slam dunk using the first round tag. Win/win.

And we have FAR more cap available than the current numbers show.

Agree- I would be fine with him at $4.6m
Disagree- I don't think any team is going to give up it's #1 for him and match it

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2020, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Agree- I would be fine with him at $4.6m
Disagree- I don't think any team is going to give up it's #1 for him and match it

That's the consensus of the analysts I have heard on the matter. There are too many unknowns for a team to take a chance with their first round pick on Hill. But a second rounder is another story. If we truly want to keep him then the first round tag is the way to go.

Unless we can work out a long term backloaded deal with him instead.

02-19-2020, 03:14 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,919	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Originally Posted by ScottF Maybe we tender Hill at 3.1 million, which is a second round pick if matched. We're not exactly flush with cash, but that seems fair to me. Thoughts? No way in my book. Hill is worth more than that with the way he can contribute to our offense ... and not even at QB. He is well worth the $4.6 million tender amount for the first round pick. There is a good chance all teams would let him ride knowing they would have to contract him to a higher number than $4.6 million AND forfeit their first round pick. Given that we'd have him for the $4.6 million number. If we slap the second round tender on him some team might be more willing to offer him a deal averaging $7 million per season, for example, knowing they would only be losing a second round pick. We could then only retain him by matching that $7 million or take the second rounder. To me it is a slam dunk using the first round tag. Win/win. And we have FAR more cap available than the current numbers show. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-20-2020, 06:46 AM	#3
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No way in my book. Hill is worth more than that with the way he can contribute to our offense ... and not even at QB. He is well worth the $4.6 million tender amount for the first round pick. There is a good chance all teams would let him ride knowing they would have to contract him to a higher number than $4.6 million AND forfeit their first round pick. Given that we'd have him for the $4.6 million number. If we slap the second round tender on him some team might be more willing to offer him a deal averaging $7 million per season, for example, knowing they would only be losing a second round pick. We could then only retain him by matching that $7 million or take the second rounder. To me it is a slam dunk using the first round tag. Win/win. And we have FAR more cap available than the current numbers show. Agree- I would be fine with him at $4.6m Disagree- I don't think any team is going to give up it's #1 for him and match it

02-20-2020, 06:51 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,919	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Originally Posted by ScottF Agree- I would be fine with him at $4.6m Disagree- I don't think any team is going to give up it's #1 for him and match it That's the consensus of the analysts I have heard on the matter. There are too many unknowns for a team to take a chance with their first round pick on Hill. But a second rounder is another story. If we truly want to keep him then the first round tag is the way to go. Unless we can work out a long term backloaded deal with him instead. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Maybe we tender Hill at 3.1 million, which is a second round pick if matched. We're not exactly flush with cash, but that seems fair to me. Thoughts?