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I love it when we get down two scores early in the game and fans start *****ing about not running the ball as much as they would like.

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I want to see pretty much a two QB system where Hill proves he can be a legit Qb. Throw him in for the deep ball and pepper in a few plays where he pitches to our RB and then goes up front to help the offensive line. I have never seen a Qb who is a legit threat through the air with the physicality and ability to block like Hill.
We are an anomaly at Qb. Nobody has run a dual QB system with an All Pro Qb who knows he only has a year or two left and a player like Hill. Ego issues will be a non factor. It could work.

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Was “Coach Pete” notified about this?

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we only passed 40+ four times last year
AK was obviously not 100%, and Murray didn't get into the swing of things until about game 6

We're fine

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I think it flew over your head Scott. *Sarcasm *

The Saints with Sean Payton are a "pass happy" offense. It's been that way most of his tenure. I've never understood that with him. Murray showed incredible promise when AK was out but for somehow the HC thinks the offense is better when AK is out there.

When we allowed Ingram to sign elsewhere, they decided to make AK the feature back. All of the stubbornness has led to force feeding.

Compare previous years when with the feature. The solution should have been to keep that formula with L Train. IMO the guy was criminally under utilized.

Our offense is getting more and more reliant on packages and mis matches.

L Train carried the ball 7 times against his former team in the playoffs made no sense whatsoever. Just because you are behind a score (7 vs Vikings) you don't need to abandon it. You know this man would have been motivated to run hard right there.

By the way, it's kind of hard to get in any rhythm when you touch the ball less than 10 times a game. He didn't get over 9 attempts until the Chicago game.

It is what it is but getting beat in your house wild card round to a marginal Kurt Cousins is hardly "fine".

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Apparently we are still getting Burrow and him and Drew will split snaps. Also “anyone who thinks Hill will be taking snaps at Qb is delusional”.
But the Saints drafting Burrow is totally rational. Oh BTW, Burrow already knows the Saints offense.

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The Saints haven't really been "pass happy", by comparison to the rest of the league, the last few years. It just seems that way because it was that way for so long.

NFL rankings by pass attempts
2019 - 13th
2018 - 21st
2017 - 19th

They're much more of a rushing team.

NFL rankings by rushing attempts
2019 - 15th
2018 - 6th
2017 - 5th

Drew's not being asked to do what he used to. He needs to be enough of a threat to keep the defense from stacking the box. With that quick release he had the lowest sack rate in the league. His accuracy is still insane. Even with the shortened passing game he still averaged 8.8 ay/a, for 5th in the league. As a frame of reference, Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes averaged 8.9 and they sling the ball. He was the offensive player of the month for December, which shows he didn't wear down much as the season went on.

His coming back is absolutely the best case scenario for the 2020 Saints, in my humble opinion.

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This excellent news! Drew Brees gives the Saints a better chance to win than almost every single QB in the league. He's certainly better than any available QB.

Not only that, I absolutely love the man. What he's done for the Saints organization in his tenure there is immeasurable. I will be be saddened beyond measure when some of you guys get your wish and the Saints plug in a garden-variety QB into the system.

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We've went all in the last 2 seasons and it has resulted in more playoff failures.

2018 was an 'all in' year. Last year this team embraced their victimhood of the non-call and spent the whole off season belly-aching about it to the point they started to believe their own BS. That's the only conclusion I can come up with as for why we didn't make any trades before trade deadline, passing on a guy like Emmanuel Sanders who came back to shred us. They truly believed they were good enough to reach the SB with this roster, all cause "the refs robbed us".

Compare us to the Chiefs. They were one Dee Ford boneheaded move away from the SB, but you didn't hear them constantly bring it up like our team did with the non-call. instead, they started making serious moves to fix their issues. They brought in a new defensive coordinator, cut several guys and made moves, stacking their offense with even more weapons and they also made moves before the trade deadline last year. Whether Shanahan screwed around and the 49ers choked the SB is beyond the question, KC made the moves to get there and win it. We didn't make any serious moves that would've helped us before the trade deadline, just sat there wanting everyone to feel sorry for us over the non-call. That was this team's identity last year.

Those playoff failures can be contributed from 3 main reasons.

#1. Payton getting out-coached.
#2. Our HOF QB playing badly in the playoffs. Brees playoff numbers the last 3 seasons speak for themselves.
#3. Defense crapping the bed in crunch time.

All 3 happened in all 3 of our playoff losses. We were one Alshon Jeffrey dropped pass away from being one and done in 2018. Even going back to 2017, we came very close to being one and done to Carolina if their kicker had made his field goals and Cam threw an accurate pass on their final drive.

For some reason, we play bad in the playoffs. Kinda reminds me of Peyton Manning led teams. Brees has put together a playoff record that almost mirrors Manning's, just don't have the 4 SB appearances. They are very similar QBs - both have topped off statistically dominant regular seasons with bad postseason play.

Brees should've retired. We're going to look back at this half way through the season when the offense is struggling and be saying this when our 41 year old QB isn't amounting to much but dink and dunk passes.

We have a young team that we successfully rebuilt with beginning in 2016. We hit home runs with the 2017 draft.

This team is not terrible and when they had that 5-0 stretch with Bridgewater, the future really looked bright.

I keep remembering last year that Brees pretty much rushed back into the starting job after Teddy went 5-0. He had that one big statistical game against a crappy Cards team, but lost in all the bragging about his stats, Brees only had like 2 completions over 10 yards in that game (his other pass for 10+ yards was an interception). His stats were inflated from YAC. A week later, we didn't score a single TD against Atlanta at home but at least he didn't throw a pick and got to pad those passing yard stats. Our #1 rival and we **** the bed against them. At home.

With Bridgewater in, we ran a balanced offense.

With Brees in, went back to pass happy with our QB who can't hit anything beyond 10 yards and usually don't throw beyond the LOS anymore.

Seriously; for all the people who constantly criticized Bridgewater last year for checking it down, Brees has been a checkdown king since the end of 2018 which is when his decline began to hit hard. Brees has never really been the same again since November of 2018. The decline began with that Cowboys game and carried on. He occasionally still has good games against sub-par teams, but so did Manning at the end of 2014 and 2015. Aaron Rodgers still occasionally has the great game against a crap team too and it convinces everyone that he's back to his prime.

I'm not convinced and wasn't all last year that Brees was playing at this super elite level people talked about. He ranked high in QBR and completion percentage only cause he focuses on short passes and rarely throws beyond the LOS. The best QB last year brought home the Lombardi, but his stats weren't perfect looking cause Mahomes isn't afraid to gun it down field.

I think this is a mistake and we're going to be rebuilding in 2021. Taysom Hill is not a starting QB.

IMO Brees isn't retiring cause Brady isn't and he is worried about those volume stats and records. I don't give a **** about those records. All I want is another ring! A second Lombardi brought to New Orleans! These old guys are greedy and selfish. They need to retire and let a young gun have a shot. Makes me sick to think we are about to let a 26 year old QB walk, who is a proven winner and starting QB, all for a 41 year old past his prime former legend who dinks and dunks all day now, but at least he puts up respectable stats I guess before we crap the bed in the post season.

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I thought this deserves a stupid pop singer gif

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Brees hasn’t had time like he used to to throw it. Compound that by clogging up all the throwing lanes and congesting everything up within 9 yards + Brees not as nimble = the recipe everybody has used to make Sean look terrible.

He can’t adjust to it and won’t grind it out on the ground. It’s just a vulnerability we’ve had IMO

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Cha Ching ... How can all these people in Saints Organization keep their jobs ... hard to understand.

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For those of you complaining about Brees coming back, ya'll need to knock it off. Yes, Teddy had a good 5 games last year. But that doesn't mean he would have ended how he started. Teams would have eventually caught on. Drew knows how to adjust. It was not all his fault that the team lost to the Vikings. If the Saints can go into FA or the draft, get a decent 2nd receiver, some depth on the O line, fix up the secondary a little, they'll be fine. The main problem again, was they had a HUGE drop off after Mike Thomas on the depth chart. Smith is good, but not there yet, Ginn was way past his prime and the other guys didn't have much experience. You Drew critics who are beating up on him now, are going to hate it when he's gone and wish he'd come back.

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We’ve been in the playoffs each of the last 3 years. Only one team in our conference makes it. Can’t really expect much more than that. So you think finding a Qb not named Brees will get us a different result?
When Brees leaves we very well could see a several year hiatus from the playoffs so I would enjoy it while it lasts.
Even if we got the best Qb in the draft it is highly doubtful we win the SB or even the playoffs.
We are going to have to rebuild eventually, that’s a given. I don’t get the whole “we might as well get it over with now” mentality I see from some fans. You strike when the iron is hot and believe it or not the iron is still hot.
Brees had a career best passer AND TD rating last year. He isn’t the problem.
You show me a better Qb for this year that’s actually attainable and I’m all in, but that Qb isn’t in the NFL right now. We are a guard and a WR away from the SB.
I will put $100 on us going if we address those needs. Everything else can be depth for all I care.

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Give Drew another WR and excellent to elite blocking from the guards and we're a player again.

I am excited to give Taysom a shot, so there's a tiny part of me that is disappointed, but with Drew at QB, and given another WR and some blocking and I'm excited for another year of Saints football. A much bigger concern is Roger dictating the outcome, but that's another thread...

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YES!:bng::bng::bng::bng::bng::bng::bng::bng::bng::bng:

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That interception that Brees threw I will always think he was trying to match Hill's deep throw to show he still has it. Hill had 1 on 1 coverage on his throw while Brees threw into double coverage. That was a boneheaded throw for a seasoned qb. trying to create something that wasn't there. Totally agree on using Murray and pulling Hill, that's on Payton.

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I'd like to think that was Brees testing himself, but he does it every year. Always seems to happen in the playoffs too, throws a dumb ill-advised pass.

He did it quite a few times the past season, he was just lucky that most of them were dropped by the DB's.

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Not only that he had the best completion % and TD% of his entire career.

I know it was a short season for him and those stats don’t tell the whole story but it’s pretty impressive none the less.

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I Told Ya'll That Drew Was Coming Back! Just Sayin".:poke:

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My belief is that when Brees exits left, the play calling will change & possibly a lot more balance.

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I would rather throw money at Everson Griffin than trade for Slay

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Not sure if anyone has thought about this but I assume that the majority of people happy that Brees is returning are older Saints fans and the majority of fans wanting a different QB are from the younger generation.

Those of us that endured watching a losing team season after season and seeing people in the stands with bags on their heads at games know how special Brees is to this team. (Don't get me started on any QB with Billy Joe for a name).
Think of how Bengals and Browns fans feel. They're miserable and desparate just for a winning season. I don't miss that feeling.

I don't do too many "back in my day" rants because they make me feel old but I'm guessing that this is primarily an old-timers vs. young-uns debate.

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Well here's the thing.

The older you get, the more you experience, and the more you know.
You dont get dumber with age.

I know YOU know this, Ice Ice Baby, but many young'uns dont.
In the immortal words of Jim Mora, "You dont know. You THINK You know.
But you dont. Know."

QB is 70% mind. 20% arm. 10% legs. If you're doing it right.

Drew Brees is the greatest QB we've ever had. His age means nothing, and if anything he's smarter.

and Furthermore, DREW !

:bng::bng::bng:

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Well said been a fan in the stands since 1967 ... starting with the first game in Tulane Stadium. Missed some years during my military career but Pops always had season tickets and I usually made at least one game a year. Remember listening to the Hap Glaudi show and then the Buddy D show on that long ride back to Lafayette.

Never listen to Bobby because the Atlanta betrayal was to much for my Pops and most Saints Fans to overcome. Pops could never forgive a Cajun doing that to all us Cajun fans and in memory to my Pops I carry on.

But my Gwaud those were the longest drives back to Lafayette after the games listening to the post mortem and all the suffering saints faithful venting.

Think Drew and Coach still have what it takes and trust Mickey Coach Terry Fontenot and Jeff Ireland will do what’s need to put Drew and the organization in the best position possible to win it all.

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WhoDat!, WW. Its good to hear from you. You're a Gold Star member, far as I'm concerned.

I used to be in that Caravan back down I-10 after the Saints games, except after you exited to Lafayette, I had a few more miles to Houston. 100 different kinds of heartbreak from the Old Days, thought I dont go back as far as you.

I understand your view, but I would invite you to bury the hatchet with Bobby Hebert. I never felt like he did the Atlanta move to US, but rather to the club's front office. Remember, they had numerous salary, terms disputes. Morten did the same thing, and we forgave him, right? I think Bobby has proven his love for La & the Saints, at the risk of his press box credentials. Plus he wore the dress for Buddy D.

Either way, I aint mad at ya, and WHODAT, Brother. :bng:

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Some of the 'expert' opinions here don't track consistently...

We go 13-3.... Teddy Bridgewater gets credit for 5 wins and Drew Brees gets credit for 3 losses.

WHO IN THE #$ck gets credit for the remaining 9 unaccounted for games?


Teddy beat (If ONE player could beat a team) ONE team that had a winning record:

Seattle 11-5
Jax 6-10
TB 7-9
Chicago 8-8
Dallas 8-8

ALL of your arguments are invalid and there is more logic presented in the DNC debates. :bng:

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I Hear ya Sky Mike follow your post and general am right in line with your views and opinion ... for me it not so personal but for my Pops, right or wrong, it was just too much to take ... he was that hardcore.

Spent many years in California and just back full time in Lafayette since fall 2018. While on the left coast I developed my Saints tracking around this site,The Bleacher Report and various internet sites. Had a sling box at a family
members house so I seldom missed a game. Watched games from Hong Kong Tokyo Beijing Shanghai Moscow Lagos Cape Town you name it and always had a Saints hat or shirt on when watching.

After internet was installed onboard our aircraft I could stream when Flying across the Pacific at 41000 feet. When I was in crew rest area of course.
To be honest talking

I have joined the new Nick Underhill subscription group NewOrleans.Footbal and signup for the Elite Plan that has 2 group dinner/events each year with Nick.

Given all that I will give a look see to the Cajun Cannon show.

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Not sure if you are a Spotify follower but Nick has a weekly show there called "Saints talk". It's a good listen with very insightful info.

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cool, man! Keep an eye peeled, for our upcoming Crawfish Boil. We already have Lafayette people coming, usually some NOLA, and even San Antonio.

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Would like to make it if at all possible.