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RefsRobbedUs 02-18-2020 11:10 AM

Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
Never had a doubt..


Even though there was no indication Drew Brees was going anywhere, the 41-year-old said Tuesday he will return to the New Orleans Saints in 2020

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ke-another-run



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rezburna 02-18-2020 11:11 AM

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-sigh-

44Champs 02-18-2020 11:11 AM

Brees Coming Back For One More Season
 
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blackangold 02-18-2020 11:32 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 11:38 AM

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The title of this thread isn't exactly accurate - "Brees Coming Back For One More Season".

As long as he continues to play at an elite level (which he is still doing), I expect him to approach the 2021 off-season in exactly the same manner as the previous four seasons and return, once again, to start in 2021.

RefsRobbedUs 02-18-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 880147)
-sigh-

Yeah lol. More record chasing

neugey 02-18-2020 11:45 AM

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Good news! Hopefully the contract will be something that works well for both sides. Hoping this next one won't create the same dead-money concern ... and yes I know dead money can be overcome but as a fan it's still a negative thing to hear.

RaginCajun83 02-18-2020 11:53 AM

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Championship

Halo 02-18-2020 11:54 AM

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WHO DAT BABY!

blackangold 02-18-2020 11:56 AM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
All depends on how the contract looks IMO... Hopefully Drew goes team friendly to allow weapons around him.

44Champs 02-18-2020 11:56 AM

Re: Brees Coming Back For One More Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 880152)
The title of this thread isn't exactly accurate - "Brees Coming Back For One More Season".



As long as he continues to play at an elite level (which he is still doing), I expect him to approach the 2021 off-season in exactly the same manner as the previous four seasons and return, once again, to start in 2021.

He has only committed to one more season so the title is accurate for now. No need to overanalyze.

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WhoDat!656 02-18-2020 11:58 AM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 880157)
All depends on how the contract looks IMO... Hopefully Drew goes team friendly to allow weapons around him.

Definitely need to draft/trade for O-line and WR/TE.

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 12:08 PM

Re: Brees Coming Back For One More Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 880154)
Good news! Hopefully the contract will be something that works well for both sides. Hoping this next one won't create the same dead-money concern ... and yes I know dead money can be overcome but as a fan it's still a negative thing to hear.

The fact that fans are more concerned over dead money than the clubs themselves speaks volumes. Under the next CBA the cap is likely to skyrocket as there are several new revenue sources that will be factored into the new calculation, as well as an increase in the percentage of revenues allotted to the players. As it sits now the 2020 cap looks to be just north of $200 million. By 2025 that figure could easily be approaching $300 million. By pushing that previously expensed cap in the future it becomes a far smaller percentage of the overall cap.

You can also look at dead money in two totally different ways. The most common form of dead money is in the form of unearned capital. This is the case where a player fails to perform to the club's expectations and is cut or traded with guarantees remaining on their contract. The other form is earned capital which is restructured into future years as in the case of Drew Brees. This money has been earned, but is simply being accounted for in a future period. Because of the inflation of the cap is actually results in savings for the club's books.

SaintsBro 02-18-2020 12:09 PM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
Same day the season ticket renewal email shows up in my inbox.


Coincidence?

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 12:16 PM

Re: Brees Coming Back For One More Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 880159)
He has only committed to one more season so the title is accurate for now. No need to overanalyze.

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I wasn't being critical of the title, I was pointing out that things simply appear to be status quo as compared to the previous three off-seasons. I was playing off the word "one" to make that point. Literary licence. ;)

As to committing to one more season, that isn't known at this time. True, his last few contracts have been multiyear with everything after year one voided. That is most likely going to be the case again, but until the contract is finalized there's no way of being absolutely sure of how many seasons Brees has indeed agreed.

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 12:16 PM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 880163)
Same day the season ticket renewal email shows up in my inbox.


Coincidence?

Yup. Unless your mail carrier gave him a call.

turbo_dog 02-18-2020 12:34 PM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
I never had a doubt he would be back for next season, and I doubt many of you did, either.

Crusader 02-18-2020 12:46 PM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
Like I have previously stated; I wouldn't have minded change at the position but I am happy that he is our QB now :-)

Beastmode 02-18-2020 01:22 PM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 880168)
Like I have previously stated; I wouldn't have minded change at the position but I am happy that he is our QB now :-)


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ChrisXVI 02-18-2020 01:29 PM

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dizzle88 02-18-2020 01:41 PM

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I think you have to go all in this season.

Trade for Darius Slay and lockdown the other side of Latt.
Trade up for a receiver in the draft if necessary.

Not crazy about how much we are going to end up paying Brees and how much it'll cost against the cap, but if they are serious about this thing, then they need to make a serious point to address the weaknesses that have stopped our playoff run 3 years in a row.

RaginCajun83 02-18-2020 01:45 PM

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he won’t be cheap but that’s the price of being competitive which is something I’ll take every season. Who really is out there that would of given the team a better chance to win now besides him?

K Major 02-18-2020 01:48 PM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 880178)
I think you have to go all in this season.

Trade for Darius Slay and lockdown the other side of Latt.
Trade up for a receiver in the draft if necessary.

Not crazy about how much we are going to end up paying Brees and how much it'll cost against the cap, but if they are serious about this thing, then they need to make a serious point to address the weaknesses that have stopped our playoff run 3 years in a row.

Slay will be extremely costly + Lattimore is rapidly coming due for a large payday.

May as well attempt to work out a deal to keep Jack Rabbit for 2020. He rolled out of his bed for 2 weeks in NO and balled at #2 CB a high level and in the playoffs. Diggs was completely shut down.

RailBoss 02-18-2020 01:52 PM

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Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season

When did he leave?... Lol

dizzle88 02-18-2020 01:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880180)
Slay will be extremely costly + Lattimore is rapidly coming due for a large payday.

May as well attempt to work out a deal to keep Jack Rabbit for 2020. He rolled out of his bed for 2 weeks in NO and balled at #2 CB a high level and in the playoffs. Diggs was completely shut down.

Yeah good points to be honest, just thinking if this is the last year of Brees then we cant succumb to the same mistakes of years past.

Payton refused to Address WR high because it was too costly, instead going into the season with a 79 year old Ted Ginn, a bunch of UDFA's that never saw the field and Trequan Smith.

44Champs 02-18-2020 01:55 PM

Re: Brees Coming Back For One More Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 880164)
I wasn't being critical of the title, I was pointing out that things simply appear to be status quo as compared to the previous three off-seasons. I was playing off the word "one" to make that point. Literary licence. ;)



As to committing to one more season, that isn't known at this time. True, his last few contracts have been multiyear with everything after year one voided. That is most likely going to be the case again, but until the contract is finalized there's no way of being absolutely sure of how many seasons Brees has indeed agreed.

Guido,

You were right. Looks like I owe you an apology [emoji23]

https://neutralgroundnews.com/brees-...ong-term-deal/

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The Dude 02-18-2020 02:14 PM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 880147)
-sigh-

Yea I get it. One more pasty season.
Don’t worry, one day we will have a Qb like TB, RG3, or Jameis Winston. Doesn’t matter if they can actually play right.

73Saint 02-18-2020 02:19 PM

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Gives us our best chance to win. Good enough for me.

K Major 02-18-2020 02:41 PM

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2020 season .. all eyes on the coaching staff.

Passing the ball 40+ times with an aging QB is a recipe for an L.

More balance, wearing defenses out late with the run game will become paramount and it helps your defense stay fresh.

Free Agency (G, WR) and the upcoming draft will be key.

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 02:58 PM

Re: Brees Coming Back For One More Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 880183)
Guido,

You were right. Looks like I owe you an apology [emoji23]

https://neutralgroundnews.com/brees-...ong-term-deal/

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I like the part of the new deal that gives him All Rights to the City of New Orleans and 83,000 new Jimmy John's locations.

“This was always going to get done,” Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis said. “Can you imagine what this city would do to me if we didn’t resign him? You think we want another Billy Joe Hobert, Billy Joe Tolliver, Wade Wilson, Jim Everett, Heath Shuler or Danny Wuerffel under center? That scares the **** out of me. Literally. I just crapped on myself. Excuse me.”

:rofl:

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 03:00 PM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880186)
2020 season .. all eyes on the coaching staff.

Passing the ball 40+ times with an aging QB is a recipe for an L.

More balance, wearing defenses out late with the run game will become paramount and it helps your defense stay fresh.

Free Agency (G, WR) and the upcoming draft will be key.

And the key to that is getting the lead.

CHA_CHING 02-18-2020 03:39 PM

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Well, this was always going to happen.

We'll now let Bridgewater walk and go to some other team who probably embarrasses us this coming season as we overpay a 41 year old, past his prime Brees.

Get ready for another year of dink and dunk to pad the completion percentage stats which will lead to the Brees' apologists declaring "it's his best season ever!" while he ranks poorly in first down percentage, YPA, ANY/A and sack percentage.

We're going 9-7, 10-6 or 11-5 and then losing in the first round of the playoffs. Book it. Who embarrasses us this time around is the question. I'm going with an NFC West opponent though. I can see it being any of them - Rams, Seahawks or Niners.

CHA_CHING 02-18-2020 03:41 PM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880186)
2020 season .. all eyes on the coaching staff.

Passing the ball 40+ times with an aging QB is a recipe for an L.

More balance, wearing defenses out late with the run game will become paramount and it helps your defense stay fresh.

Free Agency (G, WR) and the upcoming draft will be key.

That was what Payton did with Bridgewater under center.

As soon as Brees came back, the balance went out the window and padding those stats and chasing the all time TD record was more important.

The writing is on the wall. Everyone knows how this is going to end come playoff time.

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 880193)
That was what Payton did with Bridgewater under center.

As soon as Brees came back, the balance went out the window and padding those stats and chasing the all time TD record was more important.

The writing is on the wall. Everyone knows how this is going to end come playoff time.

No reason to even watch the games given your omnipotent foresight.

:rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 03:51 PM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 880192)
Well, this was always going to happen.

We'll now let Bridgewater walk and go to some other team who probably embarrasses us this coming season as we overpay a 41 year old, past his prime Brees.

Get ready for another year of dink and dunk to pad the completion percentage stats which will lead to the Brees' apologists declaring "it's his best season ever!" while he ranks poorly in first down percentage, YPA, ANY/A and sack percentage.

We're going 9-7, 10-6 or 11-5 and then losing in the first round of the playoffs. Book it. Who embarrasses us this time around is the question. I'm going with an NFC West opponent though. I can see it being any of them - Rams, Seahawks or Niners.

Carnac the Magnificent speaks again.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../21/Carnac.jpg

:D

ChrisXVI 02-18-2020 03:54 PM

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Man, Drew’s cap hit is going to be like $40 million this season with the $15 mil dead cap from previous restructures.

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 04:01 PM

Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 880192)
Well, this was always going to happen.

We'll now let Bridgewater walk and go to some other team who probably embarrasses us this coming season as we overpay a 41 year old, past his prime Brees.

Get ready for another year of dink and dunk to pad the completion percentage stats which will lead to the Brees' apologists declaring "it's his best season ever!" while he ranks poorly in first down percentage, YPA, ANY/A and sack percentage.

We're going 9-7, 10-6 or 11-5 and then losing in the first round of the playoffs. Book it. Who embarrasses us this time around is the question. I'm going with an NFC West opponent though. I can see it being any of them - Rams, Seahawks or Niners.

By the way, Carnac, Brees led the entire NFL in sack percentage in 2019 at 3.1%. He was also fifth in the NFL in AY/A at 8.8. His 7.9 Y/A was ninth best in the NFL, as well.

If you're going to refer to stats make sure you know what the hell you are talking about, my friend.

:rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 880197)
Man, Drew’s cap hit is going to be like $40 million this season with the $15 mil dead cap from previous restructures.

And what makes you think that? I'll put $10 bucks on every million under your $40 million 2020 cap hit number once the final contract details come out.

Hell, I'll make it easy and bet $1 on every million under $40 million.

:D

ChrisXVI 02-18-2020 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 880199)
And what makes you think that? I'll put $10 bucks on every million under your $40 million 2020 cap hit number once the final contract details come out.

Hell, I'll make it easy and bet $1 on every million under $40 million.

:D

Just going off his most recent contract. First year cap hit: $24 million.

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 880200)
Just going off his most recent contract. First year cap hit: $24 million.

That $24 million included $18 million of dead money from the previous contract. It was restructured into voidable future years. This coming first year cap hit could conceivably be less than last year's.

These contracts are so fluid that you cannot look at any current figure. Loomis is a genius at working the numbers and taking full advantage of the ever increasing cap. He was doing it before others figured it out.

As I have mentioned before, my degree is in accounting and cost accounting was always my favorite type. Juggling the cap is cost accounting at its most exciting and Loomis is a rock star.


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