2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

K Major · 02-26-2020, 11:05 AM

55 - Kaden Elliss

Keep on eye on this guy. I hope his rehab went well.

Could be that sideline to sideline to guy in 2020.

K Major · 02-26-2020, 11:13 AM

55 - Kaden Elliss

Keep on eye on this guy. Hopefully his rehab went well this off season & he's only 24. Could be that sideline to sideline guy we need along side DDavis.

jeanpierre · 02-29-2020, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

55 - Kaden Elliss

Keep on eye on this guy. I hope his rehab went well.

Could be that sideline to sideline to guy in 2020.

Originally Posted by K Major

55 - Kaden Elliss

Keep on eye on this guy. Hopefully his rehab went well this off season & he's only 24. Could be that sideline to sideline guy we need along side DDavis.

We've actually got a few Rover LBers on the roster who started as SS's, so I suspect Robertson's age, cap number may make him a salary cap casualty...

K Major · 03-03-2020, 09:28 AM

Bump ...

Just my opinion but the Saints secondary needs a make over ... 3 years in a row. Below avg IQ on the back end have knocked us out of post season contention. It's all or nothing in 2020. Some of these guys needs to step.

I hate to be "that guy" but Marcus Williams is becoming somewhat of a liability back there.

By the way, I hope we keep Janoris at the #2 spot this season.

jeanpierre · 03-04-2020, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Bump ...

Just my opinion but the Saints secondary needs a make over ... 3 years in a row. Below avg IQ on the back end have knocked us out of post season contention. It's all or nothing in 2020. Some of these guys needs to step.

I hate to be "that guy" but Marcus Williams is becoming somewhat of a liability back there.

By the way, I hope we keep Janoris at the #2 spot this season.

Really believe it's been more scheme and the onus should be put squarely on Dennis Allen and not on Mr. Marcus for a couple of plays that swung the game the other way against us...

We can't be elite at every position unless we had perfect-storm drafts every year with a full complement of draft picks, but, and for what it's worth, a few grading services have graded Marcus Williams' play as elite...

Lack of a consistent even pass rush effort and failure to revert back to not running the ball, eating clock, giving the opponent less opportunities come playoff time is why we've been quick-outs...

K Major · 03-04-2020, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

[B]Really believe it's been more scheme and the onus should be put squarely on Dennis Allen and not on Mr. Marcus for a couple of plays that swung the game the other way against us...

I've never been impressed with DA as Def Coordinator. Ever.

As for Marcus, what is this year 3 in this system? The most fundamental things concern me with him.... tackling.

Love his work ethic but you can't continue to dip and tuck your head in the open field. Those bad habits should have been gone by now.

He's come up short in key moments 2 of the last 3 seasons & consistently late over the top. While his game recognition improved, his inability to diagnose quickly & capitalize has become a problem.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't trust him in key, crucial moments in games.

Rugby Saint II · 03-04-2020, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I've never been impressed with DA as Def Coordinator. Ever.

As for Marcus, what is this year 3 in this system? The most fundamental things concern me with him.... tackling.

Love his work ethic but you can't continue to dip and tuck your head in the open field. Those bad habits should have been gone by now.

He's come up short in key moments 2 of the last 3 seasons & consistently late over the top. While his game recognition improved, his inability to diagnose quickly & capitalize has become a problem.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't trust him in key, crucial moments in games.

Yeah, he just doesn't have the "it" factor and looks lost at critical times. I just don't think he's good under pressure. Too many gaffes for him to be considered elite......or even good.

jeanpierre · 03-05-2020, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I've never been impressed with DA as Def Coordinator. Ever.

As for Marcus, what is this year 3 in this system? The most fundamental things concern me with him.... tackling.

Love his work ethic but you can't continue to dip and tuck your head in the open field. Those bad habits should have been gone by now.

He's come up short in key moments 2 of the last 3 seasons & consistently late over the top. While his game recognition improved, his inability to diagnose quickly & capitalize has become a problem.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't trust him in key, crucial moments in games.

Would definitely agree that our hitting & tackling still doesn't instill fear or even respect in our opponents - coming of age with the Dome Patrol set a high bar of my expectations...

AsylumGuido · 03-05-2020, 04:31 PM

For those that inferred that Brees might consider leaving ...

jeanpierre · 03-05-2020, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

For those that inferred that Brees might consider leaving ...

Bad image url link, AG...

Edit, update your post, Brother, I'd like to see it...

02-26-2020, 11:05 AM	#11
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook 55 - Kaden Elliss Keep on eye on this guy. I hope his rehab went well. Could be that sideline to sideline to guy in 2020. jeanpierre and ChrisXVI like this.

02-26-2020, 11:13 AM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook 55 - Kaden Elliss Keep on eye on this guy. Hopefully his rehab went well this off season & he's only 24. Could be that sideline to sideline guy we need along side DDavis.

02-29-2020, 02:31 AM	#13
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major 55 - Kaden Elliss Keep on eye on this guy. I hope his rehab went well. Could be that sideline to sideline to guy in 2020. Originally Posted by K Major 55 - Kaden Elliss Keep on eye on this guy. Hopefully his rehab went well this off season & he's only 24. Could be that sideline to sideline guy we need along side DDavis. We've actually got a few Rover LBers on the roster who started as SS's, so I suspect Robertson's age, cap number may make him a salary cap casualty...

03-03-2020, 09:28 AM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Bump ... Just my opinion but the Saints secondary needs a make over ... 3 years in a row. Below avg IQ on the back end have knocked us out of post season contention. It's all or nothing in 2020. Some of these guys needs to step. I hate to be "that guy" but Marcus Williams is becoming somewhat of a liability back there. By the way, I hope we keep Janoris at the #2 spot this season.

03-04-2020, 10:31 AM	#15
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major Bump ... Just my opinion but the Saints secondary needs a make over ... 3 years in a row. Below avg IQ on the back end have knocked us out of post season contention. It's all or nothing in 2020. Some of these guys needs to step. I hate to be "that guy" but Marcus Williams is becoming somewhat of a liability back there. By the way, I hope we keep Janoris at the #2 spot this season. Really believe it's been more scheme and the onus should be put squarely on Dennis Allen and not on Mr. Marcus for a couple of plays that swung the game the other way against us... We can't be elite at every position unless we had perfect-storm drafts every year with a full complement of draft picks, but, and for what it's worth, a few grading services have graded Marcus Williams' play as elite... Lack of a consistent even pass rush effort and failure to revert back to not running the ball, eating clock, giving the opponent less opportunities come playoff time is why we've been quick-outs...
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03-04-2020, 01:49 PM	#16
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre [B]Really believe it's been more scheme and the onus should be put squarely on Dennis Allen and not on Mr. Marcus for a couple of plays that swung the game the other way against us... I've never been impressed with DA as Def Coordinator. Ever. As for Marcus, what is this year 3 in this system? The most fundamental things concern me with him.... tackling. Love his work ethic but you can't continue to dip and tuck your head in the open field. Those bad habits should have been gone by now. He's come up short in key moments 2 of the last 3 seasons & consistently late over the top. While his game recognition improved, his inability to diagnose quickly & capitalize has become a problem. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't trust him in key, crucial moments in games. jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

03-04-2020, 02:18 PM	#17
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major I've never been impressed with DA as Def Coordinator. Ever. As for Marcus, what is this year 3 in this system? The most fundamental things concern me with him.... tackling. Love his work ethic but you can't continue to dip and tuck your head in the open field. Those bad habits should have been gone by now. He's come up short in key moments 2 of the last 3 seasons & consistently late over the top. While his game recognition improved, his inability to diagnose quickly & capitalize has become a problem. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't trust him in key, crucial moments in games. Yeah, he just doesn't have the "it" factor and looks lost at critical times. I just don't think he's good under pressure. Too many gaffes for him to be considered elite......or even good.

03-05-2020, 05:33 AM	#18
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major I've never been impressed with DA as Def Coordinator. Ever. As for Marcus, what is this year 3 in this system? The most fundamental things concern me with him.... tackling. Love his work ethic but you can't continue to dip and tuck your head in the open field. Those bad habits should have been gone by now. He's come up short in key moments 2 of the last 3 seasons & consistently late over the top. While his game recognition improved, his inability to diagnose quickly & capitalize has become a problem. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't trust him in key, crucial moments in games. *Would definitely agree that our hitting & tackling* still doesn't instill fear or even respect in our opponents - coming of age with the Dome Patrol set a high bar of my expectations...**

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido For those that inferred that Brees might consider leaving ... Bad image url link, AG... Edit, update your post, Brother, I'd like to see it...

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