Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Training Camp Eve...

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 1 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (UDFA 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020), 18 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020), 80 - Austin Carr (FA 2020), 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 83 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2020), 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020), 65 - Adrian Magee (UDFA 2020)

C (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 62 - Nick Easton, 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2020), 70 - Jordan Steckler (UDFA 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 79 - Darrin Paulo (UDFA 2020), 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 15 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020), 12 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 59 - Gus Cumberlander (UDFA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 97 - Mario Edwards, 76 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 69 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020), 96 - Carl Granderson

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 58 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020), 42 - Chase Hansen

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 58 - Anthony Chickillo (FA 2020), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 35 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020), 38 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 39 - Tino Ellis (UDFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (RFC 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 26 - P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead, 4 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020)


90-man Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 46; Defense: 40; Kicking: 4



Non-Football Injured/Reserve

57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Pittman was cut on my birthday, September 1, 2007, to make room for Pierre Thomas. In 2007 the roster was cut to 53 on August 28. Pittman made the initial 53 but was cut a few days later to make room for Thomas who made the cut to 75. Neither were in that 81-90 range.

You just made my case, Brother.

;)

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

JP, no where did I say that draft picks were making the roster. You appear to have totally missed my point. You first showed concern about preseason rosters being reduced by ten (10) players. I mentioned that those bottom ten never had a shot of making the final 53 plus practice squad based upon what I have heard from numerous GM's. You then listed a number of late rounders and UDFA's that made the Saints final roster. But, I said those players would have all been inside that top 80 beginning camp. And EVERY draft pick would be in that top 80, for sure. You're not going to cut a player you just drafted prior to training camp, or even the first cut. Both Pittman AND Thomas survived the cut to 75 that year. Pittman made the final 53, but was replaced by Thomas a few days later.

As for Thomas being considered a camp body, sure he was. So were about 35-40 others. But, there are camp bodies that only have a small chance of making the roster, yet a chance, and there are camp bodies that the team knows has no chance whatsoever to make the roster and are truly there for filling a spot in drills and preseason games. None of the players you mentioned would have been close to that last group.

I agree that training camp is vital to identify those bubble players. But, given the lack of preseason games AND the need to "socially distance" in locker rooms and meetings every team in the NFL can easily remove ten of their 90 that have no chance whatsoever of making the squad.

Back to draft picks making the roster ...

You know my history of de-emphasizing the draft to a degree. I have pointed out on MANY occasions that only 35% of all drafted players AND undrafted free agents make the initial 53 man roster on average per year in the NFL.

:cool:

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Regardless of what HE thought, there was no way the team was going to cut him if they were forced to go to the 80 player figure. They will ALWAYS give a drafted player every chance possible.

Given perennial winners draft better than 35% that means several teams annually draft players that make the roster at even a lower percentage for the overall average to be 35%.

Besides, the 80 player limit must be met August 30, meaning 90 players in camp for the first full month plus. It's simply not a big deal at all. They were cutting back to 75 back when Strief was drafted before that date.

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

That 80-man date is August 4th...

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Vet TEs bow out, take guaranteed Wuhan Cash...

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 1 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (UDFA 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020), 18 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020), 80 - Austin Carr (FA 2020), 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 83 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2020), 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020), 65 - Adrian Magee (UDFA 2020)

C (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 62 - Nick Easton, 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2020), 70 - Jordan Steckler (UDFA 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 79 - Darrin Paulo (UDFA 2020), 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 15 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020), 12 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 59 - Gus Cumberlander (UDFA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 97 - Mario Edwards, 76 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 69 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020), 96 - Carl Granderson

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 58 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020), 42 - Chase Hansen

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 58 - Anthony Chickillo (FA 2020), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 35 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020), 38 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 39 - Tino Ellis (UDFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (RFC 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 26 - P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead, 4 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020)


90-man Roster Count - Total: 88; Offense: 44; Defense: 40; Kicking: 4



Non-Football Injured/Reserve

57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

We are both wrong. The article you posted here says the "opt out date" is August 4th.

"Aug. 16: All teams must cut their rosters down to 80 players, the day before padded practices begin. With Wick opting out, the Saints currently have 89 players under contract, so some of them won’t have much of a shot at making an impression before things heat up on the practice field. We’ve highlighted ten names to watch for this first wave of roster cuts."

The August 30th date was obviously moved up from what I read earlier. That said, as the article also states, there are players that still have no shot even prior to camp starting.

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook