K, I can separate the results from the actual move/trade/pick. With Davenport, I liked the move then, still like the aggressiveness to this day. It may not turn out well, when all has been said and done, but I did/do like the aggressive nature that got him here..., and I see why the team was high on him.

Bottom line though is two firsts is expensive, very expensive, and he will be judged to that price. Fair or not. Anybody who says: “he isn’t even worth one first, much less two” is somebody who I understand where they are coming from. I truly do hope he gets on the field soon, very soon, stays there through the playoffs and shuts all of us who are worried over him up. That’s up to him, ball (literally) is in his court.

TS pick isn’t as worrisome to me as the Davenport trade. Specifically targeting an individual, and moving forward with acquiring him using more than one first round picks just isn’t the same as sitting at 91 and picking the WR you like, or best player available on your board. The latter is a “meh, let’s see” pick and the former is a “this guy we gotta have” pick.

For me, I constantly compare Ohio St. prospect, now Cincinnati Bengal DE Sam Hubbard, Round 3, Pick No. 77 in the same draft as Davenport...

Davenport may have a slight edge in recorded pressures according to services like PFF, but compare their career stats...

Davenport 53 Tot Tkl; 10.5 Sacks; 4 FF; 0 FR; 2 PD; 0 DTD

Hubbard 115 Tot Tkl; 14.5 Sacks; 2 FF; 1 FR; 5 PD; 1 DTD

That's Two First and a Fifth vs the investment of a 3rd Round pick...

I like Davenport, even have him on my FF team; and the same with Ingram; but I hated the poor draft management of spending multiple picks when you can find that rookie contract production down the line...

And, whether those who disagree about Davenport the player, you can directly attribute further multipick moves down the line to that overspend on Davenport (McCoy, Ruiz, Baun, Trautman)...

The draft history is there; unfortunately, Payton still has yet to respect the history to learn from it...

JP, the thing is that we have a stocked roster and all the cut draft picks just end up on another teams roster. Payton has a vision! His team is loaded and he's looking for a few more dominant draft picks to complete the roster. I'm fine with trading picks to get the missing parts of the puzzle. Davenport is exciting as hell to watch and he is an impact player when he is on the field.

Remember ya'll. He didn't have a substantial injury history before coming here. I thought and still think it was a solid gamble. I've always said that Davenport will make us forget the cost but injuries might have to make me rethink that position. I hope he gets his unrelated injuries in check this year.

Rugs, look back through my posts, I believe I've made a strong case; this roster would've been even more talented, and we'd had cap space to boot...

Consider this, please - look at the previous post, could you imagine if we'd had Sam Hubbard opposite Cam Jordan the last two playoff tournaments while Davenport was out? Consider that.

And I'll repeat what I said about injury history; there's some great talent in the non-Major Conferences...

But when you have players (SEC, ACC, Big10) who play 10+ games vs other future pro talent, you can check for durability as well as talent...

Can you guarantee that Hubbard wouldn't have been injured, as well? He could have been in the same place at the same time as Davenport and suffered the same, or worse, injury. You never know in the NFL if or when an injury might occur. Christian McCaffrey is going to be out for several weeks. Saquon Barkley is out for the season. Neither had a history of injuries and both played bigtime college ball. Courtland Sutton out for the season. Drew Lock out for several games. Nick Bosa out for the year. Jimmy Garoppolo with a high ankle sprain. Parris Campbell, Cam Akers, Breshad Perriman, Byron Jones, Sterling Shepard, Soloman Thomas, Malik Hooker, George Kittle, Michael Thomas ... all have suffered injuries thus far. It is part of the game.

Edit: Add Anthony Barr to that list with a torn pectoral. Tavon Young and Bruce Irvin with torn ACL's. 49er's Raheem Mostert and Tevin Coleman both with knee injuries.

Edit Deux: Add Brandon Scherff with a sprained MCL. Out 3-5 weeks.

Read my post(s); at least there's a history durability, playing ProTalent each week with Hubbard, who faced a more physical schedule than Davenport had in the one year he flashed...

And Hubbard didn't cost two first rounders and a fifth; if you take Hubbard with a third, you still have at least two more picks where you can expand your depth at that position for injuries...