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lynwood 03-18-2020 12:45 PM
Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
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darksoul35 03-18-2020 01:11 PM
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. 2 years ago is a different story. Does this mean Bell is gone?

lee909 03-18-2020 01:24 PM
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Welcome home

FinSaint 03-18-2020 01:34 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
Demario Davis and Malcolm Jenkins will be double teaming social injustices in NOLA.

44Champs 03-18-2020 01:48 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
He plays SS right? Could Bell take Marcus "still don't know how to tackle" Williams' spot?

XLIV CHAMPS

Rugby Saint II 03-18-2020 01:54 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
He was better after he left. We had crappy position coaches back then. I hope he still has gas left in the tank. I'm curious. I'd like to know the length of the contract. He's 32. I don't know anyone who got faster as they got older.

K Major 03-18-2020 02:24 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 882084)
I'm not sure how I feel about this. 2 years ago is a different story. Does this mean Bell is gone?
How do you feel about the lack of communication/blunders/miscues on the back end last 3 playoff runs inside of 2 minutes? Don't get caught in Jenkins age. Statistically he was better than Bell was in coverage for 2019. Technically, Bell isn't even on our roster anymore. He's a Free Agent.

Time will tell if Vonn re signs in NO or goes elsewhere.

Edit ** According to a tweet from Underhill, the Saints offered Bell $7.5M but his camp wanted more. Hence the Jenkins signing.

Vonn is probably done as a Saint.

jnormand 03-18-2020 02:34 PM
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Please don't pay too much.

darksoul35 03-18-2020 02:57 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
I like Jenkins. I was just hoping if he signed with us we would still have Bell. I see apple is gone too

FinSaint 03-18-2020 03:23 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 882114)
How do you feel about the lack of communication/blunders/miscues on the back end last 3 playoff runs inside of 2 minutes? Don't get caught in Jenkins age. Statistically he was better than Bell was in coverage for 2019. Technically, Bell isn't even on our roster anymore. He's a Free Agent.



Time will tell if Vonn re signs in NO or goes elsewhere.



Edit ** According to a tweet from Underhill, the Saints offered Bell $7.5M but his camp wanted more. Hence the Jenkins signing.



Vonn is probably done as a Saint.
Tre Boston got 3y/18M IIRC, so that offer to Bell seems fair.

neugey 03-18-2020 03:29 PM
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Balls deep in Buckeyes!

halloween 65 03-18-2020 04:15 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 882130)
Tre Boston got 3y/18M IIRC, so that offer to Bell seems fair.
You have a point.

ScottF 03-18-2020 05:28 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
He played at a high level last year, but I hope this isn't just SP making amends for what he called a mistake. The Roman Harper return didn't produce much.

That said, I'm happy we are not paying Bell more than $8 million

quick edit- Jenkins $32 million for 4 years. Oof

Rsanders24 03-18-2020 06:08 PM
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32 million for a 32 year old FS and we let a young one that was 24 who had his best season last year go....Mark Ingram situation all over again....smh

K Major 03-18-2020 06:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 882156)
He played at a high level last year, but I hope this isn't just SP making amends for what he called a mistake. The Roman Harper return didn't produce much.

That said, I'm happy we are not paying Bell more than $8 million

quick edit- Jenkins $32 million for 4 years. Oof
In today's market, 8M per isn't a ton of money for an above average safety.

Rsanders24 03-18-2020 06:10 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
Hopefully this is really just a 1 yr deal with a team option.

Rsanders24 03-18-2020 06:14 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 882163)
In today's market, 8M per isn't a ton of money for an above average safety.
It's not but Jenkins did not play well last year. If my budget was 8M/yr and I had to choose between the two I would go with the guy with the upward trend.

ChrisXVI 03-18-2020 06:16 PM
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The deal’s only around $16 mil guaranteed making it essentially a two year deal.

And we didn’t get rid of Vonn Bell for a 32 year old Malcolm Jenkins. Gardner-Johnson made Vonn Bell expendable.

K Major 03-18-2020 07:08 PM
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Right.

A two year deal @8M per season. IMO that's a discount & just tad over the Eagles contract. Essentially Malcolm took about the same amount of cash to come back.

Says a lot to me.

Rugby Saint II 03-18-2020 07:17 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 882166)
The deal’s only around $16 mil guaranteed making it essentially a two year deal.

And we didn’t get rid of Vonn Bell for a 32 year old Malcolm Jenkins. Gardner-Johnson made Vonn Bell expendable.
And that is how the good teams in the NFL do it!

Bring in a rookie on a cheap deal and let players walk because you've already drafted his replacement when his contract is too expensive.

K Major 03-18-2020 07:25 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 882165)
It's not but Jenkins did not play well last year. If my budget was 8M/yr and I had to choose between the two I would go with the guy with the upward trend.
Jenkins had a fine 2019 season.

With Bell, it could have been that it wasn't a good "fit". Vonn is a solid player but very limited in coverage and teams capitalized on that.

Malcolm and Gardner-Johnson are guys who can cover with little help. Hopefully, that will allow Marcus to roam and make more plays.

Maybe in the eyes of coaches, having Jenkins gives the Saints the better chance to get back to where we want to be.

saintsfan1976 03-18-2020 07:25 PM
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Read beyond the headline people... Jenkins is 19M guaranteed.

According to PFF, Jenkins graded slightly above Bell last season.

Jenkins doesn't make the mistakes Bell does.

We got AT LEAST the same level of production for LESS money. That's good business.

And now we can spend on Jenkins and more impact FAs.

halloween 65 03-18-2020 07:39 PM
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Jenkins had 1 good year here, his rookie year. We'll see what we get the bone headed Jenkins or the finally woke up Jenkins? I would have signed Bell.

jnormand 03-18-2020 08:05 PM
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Kinda scary when we bring back DBs after they have solid years somewhere after leaving here. Then we get the old, worm out guy that gets injured or is too slow.

Hope this works out. I really do, but I'm not holding my breath.

AsylumGuido 03-18-2020 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 882186)
Jenkins had 1 good year here, his rookie year. We'll see what we get the bone headed Jenkins or the finally woke up Jenkins? I would have signed Bell.
We'll find out how happy we are about you not being our GM.

:D

Danno 03-18-2020 08:36 PM
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Just say no to anthem kneelers

voodooido 03-18-2020 09:57 PM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
4 yr 32 million? Rather expensive for a man on the decline. I would rather have Bell back.

FinSaint 03-19-2020 02:52 AM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 882175)
Right.



A two year deal @8M per season. IMO that's a discount & just tad over the Eagles contract. Essentially Malcolm took about the same amount of cash to come back.



Says a lot to me.
I think Jenkins' camp was asking for upwards of 14M/year last season from the Eagles.

jnormand 03-19-2020 05:17 AM
Re: Saints closing in on signing S Malcolm Jenkins
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 882203)
Just say no to anthem kneelers
Yeah. I hope that doesn't start up again. Although, Kenny Stills and Eric Reid are the two that keep that stupid candle burning.

turbo_dog 03-19-2020 12:52 PM
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Chauncey Gardner Johnson earned a starting spot for next season in my opinion. Jenkins is on the backend of his career, but he can be a good mentor to the young guys, and still has something to give on the field, hopefully. We're still pretty strong at safety.

I'm more worried about our linebacker corps. Other than DD, we are WEAK AF.

K Major 03-19-2020 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 882285)
Chauncey Gardner Johnson earned a starting spot for next season in my opinion. Jenkins is on the backend of his career, but he can be a good mentor to the young guys, and still has something to give on the field, hopefully. We're still pretty strong at safety.

I'm more worried about our linebacker corps. Other than DD, we are WEAK AF.
Me too. The NFL is a grind.

Kiko, Anzalone, K Ellis ... all coming off serious knee and shoulder issues + Craig is SLOW & not much depth behind him. If Demario ever misses time, we are in trouble here. He's become Michael Thomas of the defense. AJ Klien's replacement isn't on the roster ... yet.

Maybe the Saints draft one.

Cruize 03-20-2020 02:59 AM
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The kind of player you sign for one more push. I personally like it. He still has the skills and will not make the young mistakes that have literally cost the Saints a title or two.

SmashMouth 03-20-2020 08:23 AM
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ChrisXVI 03-21-2020 09:21 AM
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Here’s an excellent piece written by Malcolm...

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en...friends-eagles

jeanpierre 03-21-2020 10:07 AM
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jeanpierre 03-21-2020 10:08 AM
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K Major 03-21-2020 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 882572)
Here’s an excellent piece written by Malcolm...

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en...friends-eagles
This quote from Jenkins ….

"but make no mistake about it, I was built in New Orleans. NOLA is where I learned how to be a leader. I watched and emulated captains like Jon Vilma and Drew Brees."

halloween 65 03-21-2020 10:50 AM
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Big difference in the way Schwartz run his D than Allen. Going to see how Jenkins fits over Bell ?

jeanpierre 03-21-2020 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 882586)
Big difference in the way Schwartz run his D than Allen. Going to see how Jenkins fits over Bell ?
That's a good point - Will Jenkins experience compensate for Dennis Allen's late game gaffes on defense - will he called defensive audibles that stop 3rd and long breakdowns?

Danno 03-21-2020 10:31 PM
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I remember about 90% of this board wanted him run out of New Orleans and said so constantly.


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