Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Am I the only one thAt thinks they should just let this virus run it’s course. It’s a matter of Mother Nature making corrections to an overpopulated world. Maybe there needs to be a good culling.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Dude give it up with the EGGSPURT thing already.

“Jawohl mein fuhrer”.

Why, Strike a nerve?

In your "honor" EGGSPURT will now be the German EXPERTEN!


"Compassionate" Posts like the one above spawned the expression!

Your concern for your fellow man is quite Hitlerain.

Perhaps all at risk persons should be singled out and put into "Isolation Camps"?

Being well past the at risk age it's nice to know you would like me, my family, friends, other members of the group, to as you put it "Be Culled"

Something culled, especially something picked out and put aside as inferior.

I don't believe I am inferior.
Funny how playing "Devil's Advocate " can spark a firestorm but this kind of comment....................???????????????

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

No, you aren't and if the economy isn't turned back on soon the lives that people think they are saving are going to have trouble staying healthy when no one can afford healthcare in a recession.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

So both of you should volunteer yourselves and your family members right now to get infected. Go right on down to your local infected nursing home and expose yourselves and your family to the virus. Make sure you take your kids and your grandpas and grandmas with you.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Well, since I'm over 60 I just can't agree with you. I'd like to live. Thank you very much! You might feel differently if you were in my shoes. There is this thing called empathy....you should try it sometime. :argue:

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Lets all try to keep our sense of humor. Serious times. Everybody take a deep breath, keep your distance, wash your hands, and keep a sense of humor. *Language*

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

I am going to remain civil though your comment warrants otherwise. That sort of comment is uncalled for and has no place in these forums.

If it is all the same, I exposed myself to enough chemical and biological weapons for my country.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Rugby, who said they do not want you to live? Allowing high-risk people to remain isolated while those that can and want to work do so is not wishing harm to anyone.

A shut down and restart of an economy has never been attempted. Its like a body and longer circulation is stopped, the more damage is done.

You are concerned with living and health.... When unemployment hits 20% that will be 60 Million people without healthcare. When the tax base dries up that will kill Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security... How will your healthcare be then?

I want you to live, and i want you to have healthcare in August lol.


BTW, my loving mother is 71 so please do not think my thoughts were formed in a vacuum.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

My mother and mother-in-law are both in their 80's. I just want everyone to be as smart and as safe as possible until most dangers subside. But, you are wrong about Social Security. It is not supported by taxes. It is supported by everything those of us have paid into it for most of our lives OUTSIDE of taxes. It is OUR money already allotted for return based entirely on what we paid into it.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

While you and I are in complete agreement about this virus, and how it should actually be handled, I think you missed what "The Dude" really said. He didn't merely suggest that the at risk people should self-isolate. He's saying the world is over populated (which is nonsense) and that we should just let "nature" kill the "weak", so we'll no longer be over populated. Which, again, is total nonsense, and it's kind of sick.

It's a fact, that people die in the thousands from viruses every year, because of age or preexisting conditions. And if at risk people don't protect themselves properly, they have themselves to blame, unfortunately. Which is why this whole shutdown is idiotic. But the way The Dude said it, came across as saying the more weak people that die, the better. And there is just no place for that kind of talk.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

I stand by that comment and unlike the idiot internet warriors, I have no problem telling anyone what I said in person. The idea that we should let this virus run its course because it is Mother Nature is disgusting and that is what you ought to be upset about but you thought it was just fine. That's some real care about your fellow Americans there - let them die, heck, they are old or infirm, etc., so who cares about them. Don't bring in your military service to somehow make me or someone else feel like it is wrong to say your idea is disgusting because you are in the military - so was my Daddy and step-dad and a ton of other people in my family and it still didn't make them right all the time and the same is true here. We ought to have enough respect for our neighbors to respect their right to life.

Good gracious in WWII we were asked to make serious sacrifices. All we are asked here is to stay at home for 6-8 weeks and we can't even do that. Complaining because we have to stay home. The whining of Americans these days is crazy. Wasting time watching stupid Netflix and letting kids play on stupid social media instead of productively learning and using the time wisely - I never wonder why Louisiana and Mississippi are nearly always last in education.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

I saw this on the last page of the thread before I knew the details of who you were responding to so I’m not saying this because we kind of see eye to eye on the subject. Thank you for your service.
The guy has like 20 posts. Doubt he will be around long.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

I thought his comment about "culling" was pretty disgusting. On the other hand, though, you seem to be on the other extreme that we should just stop the world, in order to "save" it.

You have a lot to read about when it comes to economics, if you don't understand the far reaching effects that can have on society. Also, you lack perspective of all of the far greater dangers we face on a daily basis, from other viruses, and just every day activities, like getting in your car and driving down the highway... without shutting down the world.

This sort of thing sets a dangerous precedent for how little it might take for the states to shut things down again, in the future. If you call that "whining", I think your definition of that word needs some work.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Guido I’m being pragmatic not procedural, there are no certainties here and all the government has to do is borrow against SSI to deplete it.

However....

Let’s assume that during a global pandemic, 20% unemployment, a crippled economy and deprecated healthcare system someone says... No, Social Security is off limits. Once the government starts printing money and inflation out paces Covid-19 infection rates your whole social security check won’t buy a tic-tac.


And just like a Shamwow commercial ‘but wait, there is more’!

When the unemployment reaches unprecedented levels and SSI isn’t funded by workers the present generation drawing benefits will deplete it before I get to it even though I will have paid into it for 40 years... you don’t have to pay into SSI to get benefits.

:bng:

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Oh dear ****ing Lord, some of you need to learn to read, it’s an essential skill when one wishes to communicate at an adult level.

NO WHERE did I say anything about people dying or culling or that I wanted anyone to die or become infected with a virus. Not one fu3king place.

TheDude asked if he was the only one that thought something, I told him “no he wasn’t”... I’ve heard that from more than one person.

Because of that, I get veiled threats? These boards have gone to ****.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

I understand what he said, he throws out extremist views either because he has them or for shock value here to get a rise out of people... and it works... either way that wasn't the first place that I have heard it.


My reply to him was not by any means intended to be read as though I am in agreement with him. Which I am not...

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Amidst all the panic and hyperbole

https://www.businessinsider.com/what...-in-his-legs-5

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

... and now for something completely different ...

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...37&oe=5EA9BD06

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

burning metal, my friend, I like the way that you view life. There are other options besides killing off the elderly. In some cultures the people love and revere the elderly and ensure that they are taken care of. We need to remember that the elderly spawned the next generation. Maybe these folks agree that culling the herd is the answer would rather wait a couple of decades until they are up there in age. They might look at things differently.

And if this is about the money and cost of caring for the elderly then how about not giving out huge bonuses to Corporations CEO's? Or maybe we eliminate the tax write offs for corporations. Here is another thought. If such a large chunk of our money goes to defense spending then cut it back to a more manageable number. The corporations that get these contracts make billions and get tax write offs as well. We have the money to take care of every American. Now we just need to get the corporate loving lawmakers out of office.

Here's another thought. America first. We give away billions in aid every year while we have a homeless problem at home. Just sayin'. The money is there! Rant over!:brood:

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

I stand by what I said but maybe using the word “culling” was in poor taste. I have a sick sense of humor.
I do wonder if letting this thing run its course would be better in the long run but it doesn’t mean I want people to die.

The decision has been made to do what is being done now and while I don’t agree with it I am adhering to it and doing everything I can to prevent the spread. I wear gloves, sanitize, social distance, and my wife and I stay away from our families.

One thing is for sure, life will never be the same.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Our society needs to change. Our economy needs to change. Our health care system needs to change. All of the above does not include allowing/accepting/rationalizing thousands of deaths as the price of doing business.

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Before I have to deal with anymore asinine presumptive replies, I am merely having a discussion with Mr. Cruze and not trying to kill any ones Memaw.:dunce:

Death is not an acceptance, it is inevitable, it is as certain as life; as you are fully aware. The subject makes for some of the most illogical thoughts and actions that I have ever seen. It is extremely difficult to have a rational discussion about human attrition which is odd because death is the only guaranteed part of life.

People vehemently protest its acceptance, even 'just one'... but these same people have gotten behind the wheel of a vehicle intoxicated and willfully accepted not only their death but the death of others in their path as a possible outcome of that action.

So it is rather hypocritical for most people to say a word about risking life when a person expresses concern and a desire to not destroy their children's future by letting the economy fail in a panic.

I believe we have all seen this curve and heard talk about flattening it. Flattening the curve has nothing to do with prevention or stopping the virus and everything to do with not overwhelming the healthcare system to allow people to get sick and recover at a managed rate... They aren't lowering the total infection rate, they are dragging it out. When TheDude said "run its course", the government is doing exactly just that because they cant stop it, they are only trying to manage the peak.

Nothing is going to change the mortality rate of Covid-19, your government wants to change the rate of system failure induced mortality. Because..... politicians.. public opinion... reelectability...

https://assets.weforum.org/editor/VP...eKSCJJi8Hg.jpg

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

What you see before you is what happens when people become disillusioned to the fact that they never were fully in control of their lives to begin with.

It's an unfortunate circumstance, but it's not new. There's always been events like this, and there will always be. There will be a time to look in the rearview and learn lessons, but I would caution anyone to keep an eye on the windshield as well.

The media is so used to finding answers to problems that don't exist (agendas) during times of unprecedented peace and prosperity, that when an *actual* problem comes along, they have no clue what to do.

So people do what they've always done, panic buy toilet paper, scapegoat, and get hung up on that one tree, when there's a forest burning around them.

It's dangerous to look at daily charts if you're investing for 10 years down the road. The stock market has demonstrated over and over again the result of emotional buying and selling.

For example, we know that the testing was/is not sufficient (yet), so the numbers of deaths and hospitalizations are going to look higher initially than what they really are. That doesn't diminish the loss of life, that sucks, and nobody wants to be sick or worse see their loved ones fighting for their life.

I just think that hysteria shouldn't be fueling emotionally induced policies that can't be so easily reversed. They're hell bent on releasing thousands of inmates into the general population -- but then threaten you with possible jail if you break quarantine. They want you to quarantine for 14 days for crossing a state line, but then rail against holding suspected traffickers and drug runners crossing the border by the hundreds. None of that makes sense to me. Yet, it's what's literally happening, and it's why these things will always continue to happen, because it's human nature to react this way when you feel like you've lost control.

Disclaimer: just my opinion of course, don't crucify me, and you're welcome to agree or disagree with any or as much of it as you want. Wash your hands and don't touch your face.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Those of you who react and respond reasonably and with clarity of thought I applaud you all. You are the people who help me to maintain my declining faith in humanity.

Those of you who are over reacting, parroting fatalistic news reports, and politicizing the current situation suck. You suck.

Please be part of the solution and not part of the problem.

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

I am all about the economy as I have run multiple businesses and I currently run them.

But, here's what happened in 1918: https://www.history.com/news/spanish...esponse-cities

See the difference? I could post a chart of the difference in responses but you get the idea. The alternative was to test early and often with selected shutdowns but we missed that boat.

If people would just listen to experts, this could have already been over as far as flattening the curve and everyone could go back to work. If we all sacrifice a little now, we can make it better for the entire country. If we would just do it now, it would be over much quicker and we could get back to enjoying spring training, etc.

It just does not make economic or moral sense to open everything back up and infect and kill more people. I wish we could get every state and the federal government saying close down everything and let's get it done.

The bottom line is we just sacrifice a little bit and stay home for a few weeks until we can get a handle on this (and yes, I recognize that some need $ to stay home and since the government - at least some parts - asked us to do that, then these people need to be reimbursed).

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Two months ago I started teaching my 14yo Daugherty how to drive. Everything else pales in comparison honestly. :)

Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

I’m not sure if anyone else is where but stay at home orders are not the only thing attacking the gulf coast economy right now. The oil and gas service industry is critical and the house of Saud took a shot on it just over a month ago...

Even if everyone is alllows to go back to work tomorrow we have a vital keystone industry that is crippled.