Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread
 

Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards issued a statewide "stay at home" order at a Sunday afternoon press conference, requiring Louisiana residents to shelter in place unless going out for essential tasks effective until April 12 in hopes of stanching the “community spread” of COVID-19.

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Louisiana has the fastest growth rate of confirmed cases in the world, Edwards said, citing a University of Louisiana at Lafayette study.

“This is why it matters,” Edwards said. "If we want to flatten the curve, we have to take action today."

Louisiana ranks third in per capita cases behind New York and Washington State. As of the time of the press conference, state labs had tested 1,385 people and commercial labs had made 2,113 tests.

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I flew back to work today; I wouldn't have minded being at home with the wife and dogs.

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PLEASE follow these directions. I pretty much trust everyone here. Y'all all seem pretty intelligent (about most things :D ). But share this advice with others. This is very serious.

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If political hacks like Bel Edwards would stay home and stop interfering with people's lives, that would work out great.

This is the most over-hyped, fear induced, political "crisis" of all time. Suddenly, everyone is worried about death rates, as they have ignored the common flu for about a century, killing far more people. And as people have fought vigorously to protect the "sanctity" of women's rights by sanctioning the murders of millions of babies, so that poor little miss "all about me" can do her own thing, NOW human life is sacred? And our act of "compassion" is to shut down the world, sending millions into financial hell?

There is taking precautions, and then there is just being absurdly over-reactive.

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You do realize that this virus, while less deadly than the common flu to some, is FAR more virulent and contagious on every level, right? Casual contact with surfaces hours, and longer, later touched by infected individuals can lead to contraction of the virus. Even if you you are personally in danger, anyone you contact for the next few weeks can become infected and die. Your visit with grandma may be deadly.

Do not under react.

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While the virus probably can be spread through surfaces and hand to hand contact, I think we are overreacting to that aspect of it. These cases are probably very rare in comparison to just breathing the virus in. There are theories that it can spread through the protein receptors in the eyes, maybe if you stuck your fingers directly into you nose... for the most part it is an overcompensation for just staying away from people. Continuing washing hands is probably a good practice, but I doubt it will make significant strides in slowing down the virus.

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There is no reliable data to suggest what you are saying. Because it's a new virus, and it wasn't recognized for some time, we don't have any way of knowing the actual rate of death per case, much less do we know how many have come in contact with it to say how many were exposed, and what percentage of those who were subsequently infected. What we DO know is that the death rate continues to drop as more people are tested and on record.

And because people don't generally freak out about the flu, because we're used to it, there is likely a HIGH percentage of people who've gotten the flu, and never went to the doctor to report it. I've had it twice, both times I ended up relapsing, and I didn't go to the hospital either time. But with coronavirus hysteria? People get hot flashes and they are running to the doctor.

You just can't quantify these things without being able to take into account the massive contextual differences.

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It is a hard thing to quantify because you end up having stratified infections. The more likely to be infected are the ones that are most likely to die. There are other factors though(millennial and younger people being more likely to go out etc). There is a lot of evidence that a population wide infection would result in a death rate under 1%. The real issue with this is I'm not convinced that you can actually stop it, so how to solve it is a bit trick. When they talk about flattening the curve, it is a bit misleading as they make it sound as though they are limiting the number of cases, but likely it is just prolonging cases. Once China goes back outside again, there is a high probably of a second wave. So how to handle this is a very complicated thing. Are we going to do this for 18 months?

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Avoid contact. Stay at home or in areas void of contact like parks or such. The common flu, while more deadly, has a proven vaccine regime that the majority of people partake. This virus is totally us protected. There is no comparison. Stay at home. Act as if you have the virus and you do not want other to catch it even if you don't like them.

Call your doctor. Do not GO to your doctor if you have symptoms. Do not visit anyone. Keep distance. This is very serious, yet can be controlled with caution.

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Wish they would just let it run its course. Protect and isolate the at risk, quarantine the sick and save the hospital space for the people with preexisting conditions. There’s no cure anyway and those with strong immune systems can recover at home.
Yes it will spread and yes there will be more deaths but it will pass much quicker.
All this being said it’s not the direction the powers that be chose to go so listen and do what they are saying.

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"The majority of people partake", you say, and yet millions are infected every year in this country, and around 80,000 a year die from it. But no quarantine?

What about Pneumonia? Around 1 million people are admitted to the hospital every year in the US from it, and about 50,000 die from it. With all these viruses going around, why haven't we been in fear before now?

By the way, it appears that chloroquine may be a cure for coronavirus. Is anybody touting that on TV? Nah, fear is much more entertaining and profitable for the disgusting elites in Washington, the media, and Hollywood to blame on Trump. And please don't tell me "don't go there", because if you watch and read what is being said by these people, that's exactly what they are doing.

A person has to have their head really deep in the sand to not see what's going on.

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Thank God I'm a prepper! If anyone is wondering where all the toilet paper is? I've got it!

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Flu death rate worldwide hovers around 1% each and every year. We are not a full year through Corona and currently worldwide the death rate is 4.3%.

Not sure why everyone wants to completely downplay this virus. It is easier to contract than the FLU, lays dormant in your system for longer than the FLU, and obvious based on current numbers it kills at a much higher rate than the FLU.

Sure you can say, the percentage could drop as more people get it, and more testing is available. COULD is a dangerous word with a disease that kills at a higher percentage so far and is more contagious and lays dormant longer(thereby making spreading it much more easy)

I decide what to to about communicable diseases/viruses from the people who have schooled and trained most of their adult life, you know, the CDC. The talking heads from MSNBC, CNN, and FOX News are morons, and taking advice from them about a virus is similar to taking your car to a bicycle shop to have work done on it.

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If only we could get our information from the CDC we would be better off. Instead this is being run by the VP. Personally, I didn't know he was a doctor and therefore he would be qualified. If he's not, then it's another attempt to mislead the public so the economy wouldn't crash. Too late for that and now there is so much disinformation no one knows the details and is truly prepared.

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I'm not sure why you're saying don't take advice from moron talking heads, when THEY are the people feeding all the hype by exaggerating numbers, misrepresenting numbers, and telling everyone to hide in their homes till it goes away. These are just the types of people I'm arguing AGAINST. I'm sure as heck not taking any advice from them. Nor do I take any information they give seriously.

The current death rate in the US for coronavirus is about 1.25%. And continues to drop. It's not a matter of "might" go down, the number IS going down. You are lumping in world rates where places like China and Italy have people piled on top of each other, and have far less healthy populations. The healthcare in both countries is atrocious, and Italy has the second oldest population in the world. This virus is killing the elderly, and those with preexisting conditions. Same thing the flu does.

Once again, there is no hard evidence to suggest this is even more contagious than the flu, because we're just going by the rate of new cases per day, and that number is skewed as a lot of people are being tested at once, as testing becomes available. How many people with the flu do you suppose go get tested on a yearly basis, by percentage? I've seen numbers from the CDC showing that they estimate there are between 9 million and 45 million "illnesses", annually from the flu, since 2010. That's a pretty huge margin for an estimate, wouldn't you say? This is probably because they are having to guess at the number of people who never report that they have the flu. People are used to dealing with the flu. Coronavirus is new, and coupled with the hype in the media, people are freaking out and getting tested. The numbers are likely to level out as more and more are tested, and that is according to opinions of health experts who have dealt with new outbreaks, not according to me.

Another thing the media refuses to acknowledge, as they desperately try to paralyze our society with fear of this "rapidly spreading" virus, is that it has probably been here since November. That's when it started in China, but they were hiding it from the public, as the Chinese are apt to do. Do you have any idea how much travel has taken place between China and the US since that time? Do you know how many foreign exchange students come from China, as they infiltrate our technical schools and steal our intellectual property? You think this just all of a sudden started spreading?

Not likely, my friend.

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If you want information from the CDC, go to their website. Nobody is being misled by the administration. They are trying to keep people level headed in the midst of disinformation (fear mongering) in news outlets.

Mike Pence isn't playing doctor. He's heading a task force. His job is organization and oversight of all the economic logistics regarding supply and demand of urgent items, and things of that nature. And I'd imagine the President wants him to be his informant on the ground, so that he can know he's getting reliable information back. If you haven't noticed, many government officials have tried to undermine him during and before his presidency.

Economic impact is more important than many are willing to admit, by the way. If you over react and crash the economy, you send millions into financial hardship and poverty. Poverty leads to more sickness. More sickness leads to an even greater burden on the healthcare system, and more death.

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This is very dangerous than the common cold. It will be airborne for 3 hours just think about how people can likely walk through it and reset it in common or hot spots. If people don’t distant themselves this highly infectious can cause more death to the old and young.


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The scientists found that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes the new disease COVID-19, was detectable in the air for up to three hours, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard, and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. For those reasons, officials recommend washing hands, cleaning surfaces and “social distancing” in public spaces.

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I respect your opinion but anytime the CDC has to vet information with the white house then I feel like there is a cover up going on. The CDC can't provide any information that the government hasn't vetted. We are not getting the full story.

Remember, this President is worried about his economic status more than American lives. Right or wrong I'm not convinced that Mike Pence needs to give us the information(true or not) The government told 33 lies(or misleading info) about the virus in March alone. I know this isn't the political board but it seems relevant.

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" I didn't know he was a doctor"

(YET I GET ASKED "CAN'T I EVER BE SIRIUS?") :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You mean like all the "DOCTORS" on this board?

They are all EGGSPURTS at Ortopedics, Cardilology and Thumb Tendons!!! Add Imunology to the Diplomas On The Wall!!!

Degrees were SIRIUSLY earned at The University of B&G Whilst Sitting on Their ARSES and posting in BOLD FONT!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Dude give it up with the EGGSPURT thing already.

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I can’t wait until this all blows over and we find out how this virus REALLY got out.
The best thing to rebound economically from something like this is a good ole all out war. Beat the **** out of the Chinese (not Chinese Americans) and take all their **** in the process.
I imagine the whole world is going to demand an investigation with complete transparency an access.
Just because it “came from a fish market” doesn’t mean they haven’t been storing this **** for years.
Could be something as simple as poor safety protocol at the CCDC but I trust Jamies Winston to go 40 for 40 with 40 TDS and 0 interceptions more than I do the Chinese government.

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But wouldn’t that make too much sense?

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The damage was done during something called Mardi Gras...

There is a two week incubation period and Coronavirus has been around a while. This is Jan 27th, whats above the Kobe announcement?

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I went to Sam’s after work about 2.5 weeks ago and it reminded me of a major hurricane situation but on steroids.

It was the first time I’d even realized anything was going on, since I don’t particularly care to watch the news, and I don’t have social media.

My belief is that the media basically whipped people into a panic, which then packed out the stores, which then inadvertently exposed many more people.

Quarantine measures don’t work as well when a virus has already been spread to thousands of people who packed out walmart to buy toilet paper.

Oh and by the way, there’s the oilfield apocalypse happening simultaneously.

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Didn’t see you mentioned it, my fault

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How about growing up.

:rolleyes:

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Rugby, I've always had respect for you and thought of you as a reasonable person. But for you to say that Trump only cares about his economy, and doesn't care about lives, is an outright lie. I'm not going to beat around the bush with you about it.

He banned travel from China before anyone in the liberal media started punching the panic button on this virus, and he was scolded by them as being a "racist". Now, it turns out that he saved a lot of lives by cutting off that travel route before any more spreading could have taken place. But you don't think he cares about lives? Really?

Let me ask you something else: How do you separate a strong economy from the improvements of American lives? Do you think poverty is the answer to curing human suffering? Do you want to have a job to go back to when this is over?

What are the "33 lies"? Can you name them? And can you show evidence supporting the claim that these are lies, or did you just hear that on CNN and then come to me with a quote directly from them? I'm just curious to know.

If you're curious as to why the CDC is being vetted by the White House, it isn't just them. All communications regarding this virus are being vetted. The White House has a team of medical professionals, and they are leading the response. It's important that the White House receives ACCURATE information. Here's why: https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/202...virus-testing/

Right there, is what has been the media's biggest lie throughout this process. That Trump was "slow to respond" and that "Trump misled the public about our preparedness". The CDC misled the President, and he got the blame. Do you suppose you'd trust an agency that screwed you over in such a way? Would you want to vet them? I bet you would, but instead you are implying it is a conspiracy.

The one issue I take with the article I just linked, is where it states that tests from overseas were rejected before the CDC bungled it's own test and it's misinformation to the President. In actuality, the tests from over seas were never offered. You can read about that here: https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...on-rejected-w/

How about some further background and context on the CDC? Sorry to give you so much to read. Feel free to take your time, but if you want information, it's necessary. https://www.redstate.com/stu-in-sd/2...eep-state-too/

This excerpt from that article is particularly disturbing:

"[D]uring the Ebola crisis, Democrats tried to shift responsibility from the Obama administration by blaming Republicans for cutting the CDC’s budget from $6.5 billion to $5.9 billion. Sound familiar? Where do those billions for the CDC actually go? Among other things, pushing gun control. The terrible budget deal from December allocated $25 million to the CDC and NIH to study gun violence."

Health organizations spending precious funds on gun violence "research"? The President faces unprecedented corruption and opposition in the government. He's right to vet his sources.

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Grab a beer, sit and chat with me. Health vs money is a false dichotomy created by a political system in a humanity where people are presented only two sides and forced to choose.


You aren't wrong, everything is vetted through a filter and contrary to popular belief the economy is more important than health. Again, I am not arguing with you, I am merely putting things into context.

Have a tequila.

I have worked with scientists my entire career and they should NEVER be allowed to speak to the public unfiltered. That is how you start a panic.

Yes, the Government filters everything, only a minority percentage of humans are capable of the critical thought required to put raw data into context... Critical thought is not a common prowess, just look at how football statistics are interpreted. The government should be delivering what you need to know, in a way that doesn't cause wholesale panic, markets to crash, looting to start..

The economy is more important than health because the two are not mutually exclusive and without a viable functioning economy, healthcare doesn't exist.

If we do not flip the switch and get this economy rolling PFDQ no one will be able to afford healthcare, not even the government because they rely on taxing transactions and income to provide in the absence of private health care. When that happens the government will print money and that will bring about massive inflation (see Venezuela).

Another tequila please... make it a double.

At the end of the day there is no right decision, only a righteous one. Do you risk the health of millions so that billions have a viable future or do you try and save millions knowing that once healthcare has no money they will all die anyway.

GDP is the lifeline of healthcare. Overall health and quality of life has never increased during a recession or depression, its the opposite that happens.

Ill have another tequila and the check please.

Peace....:bng:

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:rofl:

My age level is proportional to those I'm with! :lolup:

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Well said but with what is happening in New Orleans access to the city should restricted to only the absolute minimum movement enforced by National guard. No in and out except for authorized suppliers. Stop all thru traffic the area except urgent emergency issue only basis.

Other areas that are showing high percentage of cluster infection should be handled the same. There major (ie the majority) areas of our county could be open and back to normal with some of the current social distancing in place and additional safety prevention measures in place. These low density areas that do not expose people who’s daily life does not not bring them into constant contact with cluster infection situations.

I love New Orleans wife and family are there often have a small place in the wharehouse district for our visits and Saints game so this comes from a position of love and pride for the city and great sorrow for all affected. But with 70% + infections in New Orleans and surround parishes address that with the most aggressive action plan possible for not only Louisiana’s peoples but the Southeast in general.

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Be safe everyone. It's real. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

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Mardi Gras is why New Orleans has the rates that it does and as a Veteran I can tell you... You do not want the military showing up in any town unless they are helping evac or fill sand bags.

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Read Revelations. It's all there.

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Oh stop. There have already been pandemics that killed upwards of 30 million, long ago, and not much happened after that.

It's life as usual in a rock floating through outer space. It'll be more of the same after this pandemic.

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Long time, no see, pinch. Yes. Makes sense. The simple fact is that there is a much more mobile world community and this is a virus family that has not been encountered and therefore not defended against with a vaccine. Historical pandemics would have been far worse today and yet, if they had the science of today vaccines and treatments would have been developed to reduce those numbers of deaths from hundreds of thousands to thousands. Be glad you are living today.

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It’s starting to get worse. That’s expected, but try to limit how much you move around. We have SO MANY positive cases right now and people are starting to die a little more frequently. The numbers of positive patients is getting slightly overwhelming and we had to expand our ICU to keep up. We’re being staffed out to other departments and hospitals because people are getting overworked. It’s a mess at the moment. Stay home. Chill out.