Brooks contract

saintz08 · 08-09-2005, 01:27 AM

For the curious few ....

Brooks, Aaron

QB (#2)

Year: 1999

New Orleans Saints
Round: 4

Salary History

2000 275000.00
2001 389000.00
2002 750000.00
2003 1500000.00
2004 3250000.00
2005 5,500,000.00
2006 6250000.00
2007 7250000.00

Culpepper, Daunte

QB (#11)
Year: 1999

Minnesota Vikings
Round: 1

Salary History

1999 270000.00
2000 337500.00
2001 405000.00
2002 972500.00
2003 1540000.00
2004 535000.00
2005 540,000.00
2006 2500000.00
2007 5500000.00
2008 6000000.00
2009 6000000.00
2010 7000000.00
2011 8000000.00
2012 9000000.00
2013 10000000.00

Green, Trent

QB (#)
Year: 1993

Kansas City Chiefs
Round: 8

Salary History

2001 2400000.00
2002 650000.00
2003 655000.00
2004 1795000.00
2005 4,700,000.00
2006 5700000.00
2007 7200000.00
2008 7700000.00
2009 9200000.00

Pennington, Chad

QB (#10)
Year: 2000

New York Jets
Round: 1

Salary History

2000 193000.00
2001 298000.00
2002 375000.00
2003 5250000.00
2004 1000000.00
2005 1,000,000.00
2006 6000000.00
2007 4000000.00
2008 6000000.00
2009 7000000.00
2010 6300000.00
2011 10172000.00

coastalkid · 08-09-2005, 05:54 AM

WOW! I had no idea. Not a real value for that price.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-09-2005, 10:10 AM

Don't be fooled by the disparity of the numbers. Almost all major NFL contracts are frontloaded with a huge signing bonus and backloaded with huge salaries that will most likely never be seen. Note that Brooks' contract only has 3 years left on it while the others are 4 years or more. Note the huge jump that Penninton's contract takes starting in 2006.

Comparing salaries for a single year is pretty much a waste of time. You have to view the overall contract: signing bonus, number of years, backloaded years, and whatnot in order to get a fair comparison.

You can rest assured that this is Brooks' (and probably Green's) last big salary year. Next offseason those contracts will be renegotiated with another moderate signing bonus (probably in the $10 mil range) along with 4 to 6 more years with small salaries up front, and huge salaries that will never be paid.

SFIAH

WhoDat · 08-09-2005, 10:13 AM

His cap number is even larger - something like 7.5 million I think.

Then again, SF just paid a rookie a lot more. Think he'll be better or worse? Mike Vick has a contract worth 3 times as much, and though Vick is definitely a game-breaker, Brooks is a better QUARTERBACK right now. Hell, Delhomme makes more than Brooks now... actually, it's about the same. Then again, Delhomme is a better QB, so...

saintz08 · 08-09-2005, 11:11 AM

Hell, Delhomme makes more than Brooks now... actually, it's about the same.

Delhomme, Jake

QB (#12)
Year: 0

Carolina Panthers
Round: 0

Breaux Bridge, LA
Position: 0

Salary History

2003 530000.00
2004 535000.00
2005 665,000.00
2006 4785000.00
2007 6400000.00
2008 6190000.00
2009 5825000.00

WhoDat · 08-09-2005, 11:52 AM

Jake just signed a new contract. Note his number next season goes to 4.785 million, then into the 6.4 range.

saintz08 · 08-09-2005, 12:18 PM

Culpepper to date

Year - team - salary - bonus

2004 Vikings $ 535,000 $ 0 $ 502,300
2003 Vikings $ 1,540,000 $ 10,000,000
2002 Vikings $ 972,500 $ 0
2001 Vikings $ 405,000 $ 0
2000 Vikings $ 337,500 $ 1,000,000

Brooks to date

2004 Saints $ 3,250,000 $ 0
2003 Saints $ 1,500,000 $ 5,750,000
2002 Saints $ 750,000 $ 5,000,000
2001 Saints $ 389,000 $ 0
2000 Saints $ 275,000 $ 0

Delhomme to date

2004 Panthers $ 535,000 $ 6,100,000
2003 Panthers $ 530,000 $ 1,500,000
2002 Saints $ 563,000 $ 0
2001 Saints $ 418,000 $ 0
2000 Saints $ 358,000 $ 0

Green to date

2004 Chiefs $ 1,795,000 $ 1,750,000
2003 Chiefs $ 655,000 $ 0
2002 Chiefs $ 650,000 $ 0
2001 Chiefs $ 2,400,000 $ 0
2000 Rams $ 2,900,000 $ 1,125,000

Pennington to date

2004 Jets $ 1,000,000 $ 18,000,000
2003 Jets $ 5,250,000 $ 0
2002 Jets $ 375,000 $ 1,968,990
2001 Jets $ 298,000 $ 0
2000 Jets $ 193,000 $ 826,200

ScottyRo · 08-09-2005, 12:21 PM

And the curious few are supposed to glean exactly what from all of these figures?

TheGambler · 08-09-2005, 12:31 PM

I love how Brooks totally outshined Jake in that final game.........with a playoff berth hanging on the line. I hope he does the same in Week 1.

WhoDat · 08-09-2005, 03:05 PM

LOL

When a person on this board criticizes AB, someone always seems to run in and talk about how AB has such a bad defense, his running game sucked in '04, his WRs drop passes, he threw more than any other QB in the league, his offensive line is terrible... blah blah blah.

Yet, when you look at a game like the Carolina game, AB outplayed Delhomme.

Nevermind the fact that Jake attempted 50 passes to AB's 24.
Nevermind the fact that Jake racked up 307 yards, 2 TDs, and 0 INTs. (AB - 216, 1, 0).
Nevermind the fact that Deuce ran for 140 yards, Goings rushed for 46 (only 13 carries).
Nevermind that the Saints defense allowed fewer yards and points.
Nevermind that the Saints D had 5 sacks in the game (Brooks was sacked 3 times).
Nevermind that the Saints D held the Panthers to 10 points until the closing moments of the 4th quarter.
Nevermind that the Saints had 3 takeaways.

Nope, none of those things matter when you're talking about how well AB played - only when you're talking about how poorly - then those are all perfectly good excuses.

08-09-2005, 01:27 AM	#1
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Brooks contract For the curious few .... Brooks, Aaron QB (#2) Year: 1999 New Orleans Saints Round: 4 Salary History 2000 275000.00 2001 389000.00 2002 750000.00 2003 1500000.00 2004 3250000.00 2005 5,500,000.00 2006 6250000.00 2007 7250000.00 Culpepper, Daunte QB (#11) Year: 1999 Minnesota Vikings Round: 1 Salary History 1999 270000.00 2000 337500.00 2001 405000.00 2002 972500.00 2003 1540000.00 2004 535000.00 2005 540,000.00 2006 2500000.00 2007 5500000.00 2008 6000000.00 2009 6000000.00 2010 7000000.00 2011 8000000.00 2012 9000000.00 2013 10000000.00 Green, Trent QB (#) Year: 1993 Kansas City Chiefs Round: 8 Salary History 2001 2400000.00 2002 650000.00 2003 655000.00 2004 1795000.00 2005 4,700,000.00 2006 5700000.00 2007 7200000.00 2008 7700000.00 2009 9200000.00 Pennington, Chad QB (#10) Year: 2000 New York Jets Round: 1 Salary History 2000 193000.00 2001 298000.00 2002 375000.00 2003 5250000.00 2004 1000000.00 2005 1,000,000.00 2006 6000000.00 2007 4000000.00 2008 6000000.00 2009 7000000.00 2010 6300000.00 2011 10172000.00
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08-09-2005, 10:10 AM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,774	Don't be fooled by the disparity of the numbers. Almost all major NFL contracts are frontloaded with a huge signing bonus and backloaded with huge salaries that will most likely never be seen. Note that Brooks' contract only has 3 years left on it while the others are 4 years or more. Note the huge jump that Penninton's contract takes starting in 2006. Comparing salaries for a single year is pretty much a waste of time. You have to view the overall contract: signing bonus, number of years, backloaded years, and whatnot in order to get a fair comparison. You can rest assured that this is Brooks' (and probably Green's) last big salary year. Next offseason those contracts will be renegotiated with another moderate signing bonus (probably in the $10 mil range) along with 4 to 6 more years with small salaries up front, and huge salaries that will never be paid. SFIAH
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08-09-2005, 10:13 AM	#4
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	His cap number is even larger - something like 7.5 million I think. Then again, SF just paid a rookie a lot more. Think he'll be better or worse? Mike Vick has a contract worth 3 times as much, and though Vick is definitely a game-breaker, Brooks is a better QUARTERBACK right now. Hell, Delhomme makes more than Brooks now... actually, it's about the same. Then again, Delhomme is a better QB, so...
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08-09-2005, 11:11 AM	#5
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Hell, Delhomme makes more than Brooks now... actually, it's about the same. Delhomme, Jake QB (#12) Year: 0 Carolina Panthers Round: 0 Breaux Bridge, LA Position: 0 Salary History 2003 530000.00 2004 535000.00 2005 665,000.00 2006 4785000.00 2007 6400000.00 2008 6190000.00 2009 5825000.00
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08-09-2005, 11:52 AM	#6
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Jake just signed a new contract. Note his number next season goes to 4.785 million, then into the 6.4 range.
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08-09-2005, 05:54 AM	#2
coastalkid 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 287	WOW! I had no idea. Not a real value for that price.

08-09-2005, 12:18 PM	#7
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Culpepper to date Year - team - salary - bonus 2004 Vikings $ 535,000 $ 0 $ 502,300 2003 Vikings $ 1,540,000 $ 10,000,000 2002 Vikings $ 972,500 $ 0 2001 Vikings $ 405,000 $ 0 2000 Vikings $ 337,500 $ 1,000,000 Brooks to date 2004 Saints $ 3,250,000 $ 0 2003 Saints $ 1,500,000 $ 5,750,000 2002 Saints $ 750,000 $ 5,000,000 2001 Saints $ 389,000 $ 0 2000 Saints $ 275,000 $ 0 Delhomme to date 2004 Panthers $ 535,000 $ 6,100,000 2003 Panthers $ 530,000 $ 1,500,000 2002 Saints $ 563,000 $ 0 2001 Saints $ 418,000 $ 0 2000 Saints $ 358,000 $ 0 Green to date 2004 Chiefs $ 1,795,000 $ 1,750,000 2003 Chiefs $ 655,000 $ 0 2002 Chiefs $ 650,000 $ 0 2001 Chiefs $ 2,400,000 $ 0 2000 Rams $ 2,900,000 $ 1,125,000 Pennington to date 2004 Jets $ 1,000,000 $ 18,000,000 2003 Jets $ 5,250,000 $ 0 2002 Jets $ 375,000 $ 1,968,990 2001 Jets $ 298,000 $ 0 2000 Jets $ 193,000 $ 826,200
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08-09-2005, 12:21 PM	#8
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08-09-2005, 12:31 PM	#9
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	I love how Brooks totally outshined Jake in that final game.........with a playoff berth hanging on the line. I hope he does the same in Week 1.
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08-09-2005, 03:05 PM	#10
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	LOL When a person on this board criticizes AB, someone always seems to run in and talk about how AB has such a bad defense, his running game sucked in '04, his WRs drop passes, he threw more than any other QB in the league, his offensive line is terrible... blah blah blah. Yet, when you look at a game like the Carolina game, AB outplayed Delhomme. Nevermind the fact that Jake attempted 50 passes to AB's 24. Nevermind the fact that Jake racked up 307 yards, 2 TDs, and 0 INTs. (AB - 216, 1, 0). Nevermind the fact that Deuce ran for 140 yards, Goings rushed for 46 (only 13 carries). Nevermind that the Saints defense allowed fewer yards and points. Nevermind that the Saints D had 5 sacks in the game (Brooks was sacked 3 times). Nevermind that the Saints D held the Panthers to 10 points until the closing moments of the 4th quarter. Nevermind that the Saints had 3 takeaways. Nope, none of those things matter when you're talking about how well AB played - only when you're talking about how poorly - then those are all perfectly good excuses.
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