Owens leaves Eagles Camp

spkb25 · 08-10-2005, 07:16 PM

golden tomb possible

mayoj · 08-10-2005, 07:43 PM

i just dont understand how they are going to survive without Freddie Mitchel and his blessed hands

spkb25 · 08-10-2005, 08:06 PM

thats funny

BeeoBee · 08-10-2005, 09:23 PM

i just saw on NFL network that hes suspended for one week of training camp..jeez..he must be be upset with himself now..he has to miss a whole week of sweatin his arse off...way to be firm philly..this dude should be banned from football..you have a 7 year 49 million contract and you cry like a baby..what does he want..100 million?!?!why not 2..this guy is bad for football IMO...way back in the day they had guys playin for pretty much nothing and lovin it..give me T.O.'s talent and i'll play for free..this guys attitude is so bad for football...if he gets his way its just gonna spread like a virus to other players and football will be ruined..in some ways it already has..they still have rookies that havent played in the pros one day still unsigned...at this point,there is no excuse for that..ban T.O. from football is my vote

Tobias-Reiper · 08-10-2005, 11:20 PM

... missing a week of camp could mean some serious cash loss to a player...

RockyMountainSaint · 08-11-2005, 05:01 AM

Is anyone still "Hatin" on Joe Horn after watching this TURD (Owens)dominate headlines with his insecure, childish attitude?

08, How could you of all people miss this "Conspiracy Theory"?
Owens and the Eagles know that he would test positive for steroids so they are deliberately keeping him out of camp for the time being. He will get clean and end the drama just as the regular season starts.

We later find out that McNabb and his mother were supplying Owens through Chunky Soups.
The resulting hoopla allow the Saints to slip in under the radar and take the NFC Championship!

God. I need some sleep.

TallySaint · 08-11-2005, 07:22 AM

Wonder what the Eagles fans think of all this. Eagle fans hate everyone. They hate each other. Heck, they hate themselves.

If Jesus Himself appeared on the fifty yard line he'd be booed..."Get off the field, ya bum!". (Unless he appeared at halftime, where He'd get a smattering of applause)

8)

maximkat · 08-11-2005, 09:25 AM

The best part was I saw on TV TO was playing basketball at his house, and as more and more camera crews got out there he started working out in front of his house. Most everything was no comment, but I doubt highly he has a groin injury. It's clear that the only thing this guy wants as much as money is a camera and a microphone in front of his face.

On the eagles thing: Mcnabb has taken a team with Thrash (or trash as I like to call him), Pinkston (mr. below average), and Freddie-I've had one good game in my life, so now im the greatest ever - Mitchell as his top three WR's for a couple years to the NFC Championship game for a couple years. As much as I don't like the eagles (im a south jerseyian saint fan), Donavan is one of the best things to ever happen to that team, and he will find a way to keep them in strong contention with an average or even below average receiving crew.

saintswhodi · 08-11-2005, 09:29 AM

See, I gotta disagree with you again papz. You are using the same argument many use as to why the Saints won't do any better this year. Basically you are saying, the Eagles did it before TO, they will do it again. Just like some say, well the Saints have always sucked, so they always will. In a vacuum, maybe, but look at the improvements all around the Eagles. #1, look at just the Cowboys, Giants, and Redskins in their own division. All three could have top flight defenses, key on Westbrook, and you have inexperienced Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown as primary receivers without TO. Before TO they at least had Thrash, Pinkston and Mitchell, who had experience. Those guys don't.

The second thing is, the only impressive playoff win they had without TO was Atlanta. The NFC sucked last year, big time. And again, if TO isn't i the Superbowl going over 100 yards receiving, are they even in that game?

Three, I agree with GT, this has to be somewhat psychologically damaging to the team. You don't go through the turmoil they have had this offseason and in camp and not be effected. You can say, well they have done such and such before without TO, and they have, but they have never had to deal with the adversity TO has brought to this team this offseason. Makes a difference.

papz · 08-11-2005, 10:28 AM

See, I gotta disagree with you again papz. You are using the same argument many use as to why the Saints won't do any better this year. Basically you are saying, the Eagles did it before TO, they will do it again. Just like some say, well the Saints have always sucked, so they always will. In a vacuum, maybe, but look at the improvements all around the Eagles. #1, look at just the Cowboys, Giants, and Redskins in their own division. All three could have top flight defenses, key on Westbrook, and you have inexperienced Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown as primary receivers without TO. Before TO they at least had Thrash, Pinkston and Mitchell, who had experience. Those guys don't.

Ekk sw... you are saying the Redskins, Cowboys, and Giants have chances to have top flight defenses based on their previous performances from the past years? Unlike the Eagles, all three of these defenses either lost key players or are changing schemes.

Redskins lost Fred Smoot and Antonio Pierce... not to mention Sean Taylor has legal issues that might result in prison time. Those are significant blows to their defense.

The Cowboys are changing schemes. It's unlikely that they will be able to adapt and have success right away. Drew Bledsoe is an improvement but is he really? He's had two consecutive poor seasons and is getting up there in age. You've got to wonder how much he really can help that team... I'd rather have AB on my team. Henry was a good signing to start opposite Newman, but Newman stinks. Besides having an outstanding rookie season, he's been horrible... HORRIBLE for two straight years. No matter how much talent Spears and Ware have, they are still rookies. Both played in 4-3 defenses in college and will have a lot to learn before they make an impact. Also, Darren Woodsen gone, there's going to be a hole right next to Roy Williams.

Okay you got me with the Giants, I can't really find anything bad to say about their team. They made some good defensive acquistions and the return of Shaun Williams and Strahan will make them a force to reckon with. Their offense is solid with the addition of Burress and return of Shockey. Their success will all be in the hands of Eli and I think he's going to have a great year.

During their 3 consecutive NFC Championship appearances Thrash, Pinkston, and Mitchell didn't really light the world on fire. Thrash maybe averaged around 50 balls 650 yards a season. Pinkston averaged 43 and 650. Mitchell averaged 20 and maybe 200 yards per season. As far as I'm concerned, those numbers look easily replaceable. If anything we'll see more of the old McNabb scrambling and making things happen down the field. That and along with their defense got them there every year... not the play of the WR's. I'm pretty sure Greg Lewis is by far going to surpass FredEx's numbers... at least.

[/quote] The second thing is, the only impressive playoff win they had without TO was Atlanta. The NFC sucked last year, big time. And again, if TO isn't i the Superbowl going over 100 yards receiving, are they even in that game? [/quote]

Yea that was impressive wasn't it... and it said volumes. All during the playoffs they were mentioning not having T.O. was no big deal. There was no I in team... blah blah and they backed it up. I don't exactly know the record for Philly the past 3-4 years, but haven't they been around 12-4 year in year out? I really don't see how much of that will change... we're talking about one T.O. About the second part sw... I guess we'll never know.

Though with T.O. they lost... w/o T.O. they would have still lost.

I definately agree they will have major holes at WR and it will be tough to overcome. But with the acquistion of a Warrick and/or Robinson, it will definately decrease the blow of not having a T.O. on your team.

T.O. is due back in a week so basically this whole thread is irrelevant anyways.

08-10-2005, 09:23 PM	#14
BeeoBee Registered Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 67	i just saw on NFL network that hes suspended for one week of training camp..jeez..he must be be upset with himself now..he has to miss a whole week of sweatin his arse off...way to be firm philly..this dude should be banned from football..you have a 7 year 49 million contract and you cry like a baby..what does he want..100 million?!?!why not 2..this guy is bad for football IMO...way back in the day they had guys playin for pretty much nothing and lovin it..give me T.O.'s talent and i'll play for free..this guys attitude is so bad for football...if he gets his way its just gonna spread like a virus to other players and football will be ruined..in some ways it already has..they still have rookies that havent played in the pros one day still unsigned...at this point,there is no excuse for that..ban T.O. from football is my vote
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08-11-2005, 05:01 AM	#16
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Is anyone still "Hatin" on Joe Horn after watching this TURD (Owens)dominate headlines with his insecure, childish attitude? 08, How could you of all people miss this "Conspiracy Theory"? Owens and the Eagles know that he would test positive for steroids so they are deliberately keeping him out of camp for the time being. He will get clean and end the drama just as the regular season starts. We later find out that McNabb and his mother were supplying Owens through Chunky Soups. The resulting hoopla allow the Saints to slip in under the radar and take the NFC Championship! God. I need some sleep.
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08-11-2005, 09:25 AM	#18
maximkat ChocolateMilk Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Live Free or Die Posts: 362	The best part was I saw on TV TO was playing basketball at his house, and as more and more camera crews got out there he started working out in front of his house. Most everything was no comment, but I doubt highly he has a groin injury. It's clear that the only thing this guy wants as much as money is a camera and a microphone in front of his face. On the eagles thing: Mcnabb has taken a team with Thrash (or trash as I like to call him), Pinkston (mr. below average), and Freddie-I've had one good game in my life, so now im the greatest ever - Mitchell as his top three WR's for a couple years to the NFC Championship game for a couple years. As much as I don't like the eagles (im a south jerseyian saint fan), Donavan is one of the best things to ever happen to that team, and he will find a way to keep them in strong contention with an average or even below average receiving crew.
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TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	Wonder what the Eagles fans think of all this. Eagle fans hate everyone. They hate each other. Heck, they hate themselves. If Jesus Himself appeared on the fifty yard line he'd be booed..."Get off the field, ya bum!". (Unless he appeared at halftime, where He'd get a smattering of applause) 8)

08-11-2005, 09:29 AM	#19
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	See, I gotta disagree with you again papz. You are using the same argument many use as to why the Saints won't do any better this year. Basically you are saying, the Eagles did it before TO, they will do it again. Just like some say, well the Saints have always sucked, so they always will. In a vacuum, maybe, but look at the improvements all around the Eagles. #1, look at just the Cowboys, Giants, and Redskins in their own division. All three could have top flight defenses, key on Westbrook, and you have inexperienced Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown as primary receivers without TO. Before TO they at least had Thrash, Pinkston and Mitchell, who had experience. Those guys don't. The second thing is, the only impressive playoff win they had without TO was Atlanta. The NFC sucked last year, big time. And again, if TO isn't i the Superbowl going over 100 yards receiving, are they even in that game? Three, I agree with GT, this has to be somewhat psychologically damaging to the team. You don't go through the turmoil they have had this offseason and in camp and not be effected. You can say, well they have done such and such before without TO, and they have, but they have never had to deal with the adversity TO has brought to this team this offseason. Makes a difference.

08-11-2005, 10:28 AM	#20
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	See, I gotta disagree with you again papz. You are using the same argument many use as to why the Saints won't do any better this year. Basically you are saying, the Eagles did it before TO, they will do it again. Just like some say, well the Saints have always sucked, so they always will. In a vacuum, maybe, but look at the improvements all around the Eagles. #1, look at just the Cowboys, Giants, and Redskins in their own division. All three could have top flight defenses, key on Westbrook, and you have inexperienced Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown as primary receivers without TO. Before TO they at least had Thrash, Pinkston and Mitchell, who had experience. Those guys don't. Ekk sw... you are saying the Redskins, Cowboys, and Giants have chances to have top flight defenses based on their previous performances from the past years? Unlike the Eagles, all three of these defenses either lost key players or are changing schemes. Redskins lost Fred Smoot and Antonio Pierce... not to mention Sean Taylor has legal issues that might result in prison time. Those are significant blows to their defense. The Cowboys are changing schemes. It's unlikely that they will be able to adapt and have success right away. Drew Bledsoe is an improvement but is he really? He's had two consecutive poor seasons and is getting up there in age. You've got to wonder how much he really can help that team... I'd rather have AB on my team. Henry was a good signing to start opposite Newman, but Newman stinks. Besides having an outstanding rookie season, he's been horrible... HORRIBLE for two straight years. No matter how much talent Spears and Ware have, they are still rookies. Both played in 4-3 defenses in college and will have a lot to learn before they make an impact. Also, Darren Woodsen gone, there's going to be a hole right next to Roy Williams. Okay you got me with the Giants, I can't really find anything bad to say about their team. They made some good defensive acquistions and the return of Shaun Williams and Strahan will make them a force to reckon with. Their offense is solid with the addition of Burress and return of Shockey. Their success will all be in the hands of Eli and I think he's going to have a great year. During their 3 consecutive NFC Championship appearances Thrash, Pinkston, and Mitchell didn't really light the world on fire. Thrash maybe averaged around 50 balls 650 yards a season. Pinkston averaged 43 and 650. Mitchell averaged 20 and maybe 200 yards per season. As far as I'm concerned, those numbers look easily replaceable. If anything we'll see more of the old McNabb scrambling and making things happen down the field. That and along with their defense got them there every year... not the play of the WR's. I'm pretty sure Greg Lewis is by far going to surpass FredEx's numbers... at least. [/quote] The second thing is, the only impressive playoff win they had without TO was Atlanta. The NFC sucked last year, big time. And again, if TO isn't i the Superbowl going over 100 yards receiving, are they even in that game? [/quote] Yea that was impressive wasn't it... and it said volumes. All during the playoffs they were mentioning not having T.O. was no big deal. There was no I in team... blah blah and they backed it up. I don't exactly know the record for Philly the past 3-4 years, but haven't they been around 12-4 year in year out? I really don't see how much of that will change... we're talking about one T.O. About the second part sw... I guess we'll never know. Though with T.O. they lost... w/o T.O. they would have still lost. I definately agree they will have major holes at WR and it will be tough to overcome. But with the acquistion of a Warrick and/or Robinson, it will definately decrease the blow of not having a T.O. on your team. T.O. is due back in a week so basically this whole thread is irrelevant anyways.