Rate the Draft

hitta · 04-29-2020, 01:43 AM

Giving up draft picks to make the right picks isn't bad. If you have faith in your talent scouting, there is nothing wrong with that approach. You really have two approaches.. take a wide number of selections and hope you hit on some... or have faith in your talent scouting and make those few important choices. Neither approach is either right or wrong... comes with both pros and cons. If you miss on those few selections, you've ****ed up your whole draft. If you hit, you win. Grading the draft right now is a waste of time.

Rugby Saint II · 04-29-2020, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Solid B for now(GOOD but not spectacular).

Nothing against Cesar but I've always felt quality starting interior lineman can be found in the middle rounds. It was a good draft overall. All 3 should become eventual starters.

I believe that if you draft O-line early then your success rate goes up automatically. When we try plugging in mid round guys we keep missing but our success record under Ireland drafting the big uglies in the first round has really paid off. McCoy was a second rounder but he was our first pick in the draft. Remember the 7-9 seasons? When we gave Drew more time the Saints started going 13-3. You win in the trenches. Payton/Ireland has proven that you can get starting talent in the mid rounds for the skill positions. However, I certainly agree that we nailed this draft!

So, I respect your opinion but I like mine better.

The Dude · 05-11-2020, 12:57 PM

Wasn’t thrilled about trading the picks but after thinking about it I figure what else would we do with them. We have a pretty stacked roster and I think there’s a better chance at landing a FA that can make the roster than any of those late round picks.

The Dude · 05-11-2020, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I believe that if you draft O-line early then your success rate goes up automatically. When we try plugging in mid round guys we keep missing but our success record under Ireland drafting the big uglies in the first round has really paid off. McCoy was a second rounder but he was our first pick in the draft. Remember the 7-9 seasons? When we gave Drew more time the Saints started going 13-3. You win in the trenches. Payton/Ireland has proven that you can get starting talent in the mid rounds for the skill positions. However, I certainly agree that we nailed this draft!

So, I respect your opinion but I like mine better.

Wasn’t Evans a mid round pick? I remember a couple of those guys were.

halloween 65 · 05-11-2020, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Wasn’t Evans a mid round pick? I remember a couple of those guys were.

Colston was a 7th rounder. I'm not a fan of having fewer picks to give up on a guy that might not work out. Competition is a much better way to go, if the later round picks don't work out then they got beat out, if they do the better for the team and are cheaper.

The Dude · 05-11-2020, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Colston was a 7th rounder. I'm not a fan of having fewer picks to give up on a guy that might not work out. Competition is a much better way to go, if the later round picks don't work out then they got beat out, if they do the better for the team and are cheaper.

So was Brady but that was an anomaly. More often than not they are out of the NFL.
If we weren’t in a “win now” scenario I definitely would not be happy about it but considering the circumstances I’m ok with it.

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04-29-2020, 01:43 AM	#31
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Rate the Draft Giving up draft picks to make the right picks isn't bad. If you have faith in your talent scouting, there is nothing wrong with that approach. You really have two approaches.. take a wide number of selections and hope you hit on some... or have faith in your talent scouting and make those few important choices. Neither approach is either right or wrong... comes with both pros and cons. If you miss on those few selections, you've ****ed up your whole draft. If you hit, you win. Grading the draft right now is a waste of time. AsylumGuido likes this.
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04-29-2020, 12:42 PM	#32
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Rate the Draft Originally Posted by papz Solid B for now(GOOD but not spectacular). Nothing against Cesar but I've always felt quality starting interior lineman can be found in the middle rounds. It was a good draft overall. All 3 should become eventual starters. I believe that if you draft O-line early then your success rate goes up automatically. When we try plugging in mid round guys we keep missing but our success record under Ireland drafting the big uglies in the first round has really paid off. McCoy was a second rounder but he was our first pick in the draft. Remember the 7-9 seasons? When we gave Drew more time the Saints started going 13-3. You win in the trenches. Payton/Ireland has proven that you can get starting talent in the mid rounds for the skill positions. However, I certainly agree that we nailed this draft! So, I respect your opinion but I like mine better.
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05-11-2020, 12:57 PM	#33
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Rate the Draft Wasn’t thrilled about trading the picks but after thinking about it I figure what else would we do with them. We have a pretty stacked roster and I think there’s a better chance at landing a FA that can make the roster than any of those late round picks.
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05-11-2020, 01:03 PM	#34
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Rate the Draft Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I believe that if you draft O-line early then your success rate goes up automatically. When we try plugging in mid round guys we keep missing but our success record under Ireland drafting the big uglies in the first round has really paid off. McCoy was a second rounder but he was our first pick in the draft. Remember the 7-9 seasons? When we gave Drew more time the Saints started going 13-3. You win in the trenches. Payton/Ireland has proven that you can get starting talent in the mid rounds for the skill positions. However, I certainly agree that we nailed this draft! So, I respect your opinion but I like mine better. Wasn’t Evans a mid round pick? I remember a couple of those guys were. halloween 65 likes this.
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05-11-2020, 01:26 PM	#35
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Rate the Draft Originally Posted by The Dude Wasn’t Evans a mid round pick? I remember a couple of those guys were. Colston was a 7th rounder. I'm not a fan of having fewer picks to give up on a guy that might not work out. Competition is a much better way to go, if the later round picks don't work out then they got beat out, if they do the better for the team and are cheaper.

05-11-2020, 01:29 PM	#36
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Rate the Draft Originally Posted by halloween 65 Colston was a 7th rounder. I'm not a fan of having fewer picks to give up on a guy that might not work out. Competition is a much better way to go, if the later round picks don't work out then they got beat out, if they do the better for the team and are cheaper. So was Brady but that was an anomaly. More often than not they are out of the NFL. If we weren’t in a “win now” scenario I definitely would not be happy about it but considering the circumstances I’m ok with it. AsylumGuido likes this.
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