Saints/Seattle Preseason Game Impression

FrenzyFan · 08-12-2005, 09:18 PM

Not too much different from last year. Our defense is good enough to get us some stops but not great when their backs are to the wall. Our offense is mistake-ridden and consistently puts our defense on the field far more than they need to be.

Run-blocking seems a low average. Pass-blocking a bit below that. Deuce seems to be running with purpose but keeps getting stood up. I watched them try to strip him on almost every play - success will eventually happen in that situation.

Aaron Brooks is still taking eight-step drops and rolling INTO the rush. He is still locking onto Joe Horn. Horn dropped an easy pass.

Bouman rots. Plain and simple.

saintswhodi · 08-12-2005, 09:21 PM

Frenzy, you're such a pessimist. Didn't you read all the reports? Everyone is doing great in camp. There's no reason to be down. Everything will be great. We are the elite of this division. There is no reason we won't be in Detroit for the Superbowl. Everything is in place. THIS is the year we put it all together. Preseason means nothing. Forget what happened when we looked this bad in preseason last year. Etc. Etc. Etc.

FrenzyFan · 08-12-2005, 09:26 PM

So that I am not ENTIRELY pessimistic. Mike McKenzie plays like a demon and is laying the wood. Bockwoldt came to play as well.

OK, so I'm a pessimist. Where the hell were Grant and Howard? One play where Grant ALMOST gets it done?!? Thought this was out STRENGTH? I'm so frappin sick of off-season hype. I fall for it every year, and every year I get my heart broken.

This sucks....

spkb25 · 08-12-2005, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

I know we're excited, but it's the pre-season. No matter what you see, doesn't mean that will translate to the reg season. So what if we get ran on? We will play a lot of inexperienced guys, probably early. If our starters are only out there a series or two, but in the finaly tally we have given up 150 yards rushing, doesn't mean anything. The thing to look out for is can our first team offense drive down the field, and can our first team defense stop Seattle's first team from doing the same. Outside of this, everything else is a chance to see fan favorites and hopefuls play against practice squad fodder and guys who won't be in the league next week.

but now it all matters huh saintswhodi. way to cover all the angles. the offense was terrible besides deuce tonight. i am going off stats and the drive charts because i haven't seen the game yet. i thought from the drive stats the d was much better then last years first preseason game. if i remember we gave up like 150 yards on the ground. a lot of it in the first half too.

saintswhodi · 08-12-2005, 09:30 PM

Exactly right spk. Read it again. This is what I said to look for:

The thing to look out for is can our first team offense drive down the field, and can our first team defense stop Seattle's first team from doing the same. Outside of this, everything else is a chance to see fan favorites and hopefuls play against practice squad fodder and guys who won't be in the league next week.

No and no. Thanks for reminding me I said that.

FrenzyFan · 08-12-2005, 09:37 PM

Your wrong on the second part of that, Whodi. Our first team D, STUFFED their first team O. Plain and simple. They got their points off the Deuce fumble. Other than that, our D pwned 'em.

saintswhodi · 08-12-2005, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by FrenzyFan

Your wrong on the second part of that, Whodi. Our first team D, STUFFED their first team O. Plain and simple. They got their points off the Deuce fumble. Other than that, our D pwned 'em.

Oh, then I am glad to hear that. My whole argument has been our offense killed our D anyway, this game just carries over from last year. Glad to be wrong on the second part.

FrenzyFan · 08-12-2005, 09:41 PM

Cannot argue with that at all. Our offense scored those points against us tonight. Wasn't the D. People can rag our D for allowing those points, but its the O who put us there.

FrenzyFan · 08-12-2005, 09:47 PM

Just watched Haslett's half-time sound-byte and he praised the defense and blamed the offense for the points scored in the first half.

For what it's worth

FrenzyFan · 08-12-2005, 09:57 PM

I know it's the scrubs playing right now, but Rodney Leisle has nearly sacked the QB 3 of the last 4 plays. He seems to be a player.

08-12-2005, 09:18 PM	#1
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Saints/Seattle Preseason Game Impression Not too much different from last year. Our defense is good enough to get us some stops but not great when their backs are to the wall. Our offense is mistake-ridden and consistently puts our defense on the field far more than they need to be. Run-blocking seems a low average. Pass-blocking a bit below that. Deuce seems to be running with purpose but keeps getting stood up. I watched them try to strip him on almost every play - success will eventually happen in that situation. Aaron Brooks is still taking eight-step drops and rolling INTO the rush. He is still locking onto Joe Horn. Horn dropped an easy pass. Bouman rots. Plain and simple.
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08-12-2005, 09:26 PM	#3
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	So that I am not ENTIRELY pessimistic. Mike McKenzie plays like a demon and is laying the wood. Bockwoldt came to play as well. OK, so I'm a pessimist. Where the hell were Grant and Howard? One play where Grant ALMOST gets it done?!? Thought this was out STRENGTH? I'm so frappin sick of off-season hype. I fall for it every year, and every year I get my heart broken. This sucks....
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08-12-2005, 09:28 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Originally Posted by saintswhodi I know we're excited, but it's the pre-season. No matter what you see, doesn't mean that will translate to the reg season. So what if we get ran on? We will play a lot of inexperienced guys, probably early. If our starters are only out there a series or two, but in the finaly tally we have given up 150 yards rushing, doesn't mean anything. The thing to look out for is can our first team offense drive down the field, and can our first team defense stop Seattle's first team from doing the same. Outside of this, everything else is a chance to see fan favorites and hopefuls play against practice squad fodder and guys who won't be in the league next week. but now it all matters huh saintswhodi. way to cover all the angles. the offense was terrible besides deuce tonight. i am going off stats and the drive charts because i haven't seen the game yet. i thought from the drive stats the d was much better then last years first preseason game. if i remember we gave up like 150 yards on the ground. a lot of it in the first half too.

08-12-2005, 09:30 PM	#5
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Exactly right spk. Read it again. This is what I said to look for: The thing to look out for is can our first team offense drive down the field, and can our first team defense stop Seattle's first team from doing the same. Outside of this, everything else is a chance to see fan favorites and hopefuls play against practice squad fodder and guys who won't be in the league next week. No and no. Thanks for reminding me I said that.

08-12-2005, 09:37 PM	#6
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Your wrong on the second part of that, Whodi. Our first team D, STUFFED their first team O. Plain and simple. They got their points off the Deuce fumble. Other than that, our D pwned 'em.
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08-12-2005, 09:21 PM	#2
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Frenzy, you're such a pessimist. Didn't you read all the reports? Everyone is doing great in camp. There's no reason to be down. Everything will be great. We are the elite of this division. There is no reason we won't be in Detroit for the Superbowl. Everything is in place. THIS is the year we put it all together. Preseason means nothing. Forget what happened when we looked this bad in preseason last year. Etc. Etc. Etc.

08-12-2005, 09:40 PM	#7
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by FrenzyFan Your wrong on the second part of that, Whodi. Our first team D, STUFFED their first team O. Plain and simple. They got their points off the Deuce fumble. Other than that, our D pwned 'em. Oh, then I am glad to hear that. My whole argument has been our offense killed our D anyway, this game just carries over from last year. Glad to be wrong on the second part.

08-12-2005, 09:41 PM	#8
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Cannot argue with that at all. Our offense scored those points against us tonight. Wasn't the D. People can rag our D for allowing those points, but its the O who put us there.
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08-12-2005, 09:47 PM	#9
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Just watched Haslett's half-time sound-byte and he praised the defense and blamed the offense for the points scored in the first half. For what it's worth
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08-12-2005, 09:57 PM	#10
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	I know it's the scrubs playing right now, but Rodney Leisle has nearly sacked the QB 3 of the last 4 plays. He seems to be a player.
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