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SmashMouth 05-15-2020 07:45 PM
Saints' Sean Payton calls 'Bountygate' punishment 'a sham' as he reacts to former linebacker's claim
 
New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton ripped the NFL over the “Bountygate” scandal as he was asked Thursday to comment on James Harrison’s suggestion that he received payment from Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin for a violent hit that knocked out a wide receiver in 2010 against the Cleveland Browns.


Harrison said on Barstool Sports' "Going Deep" podcast on Thursday that Tomlin “handed me an envelope” after knocking out wide receiver Mohamed Massaquoi which resulted in a $75,000 fine.

JAMES HARRISON SAYS STEELERS HEAD COACH MIKE TOMLIN HANDED HIM AN ENVELOPE AFTER VIOLENT HIT IN 2010

Payton was asked about the allegation and said in an interview on 105.7 The Fan in Baltimore that he would be “shocked” if there was a thorough investigation or some kind of punishment similar to the Saints’ own scandal in which the coach was suspended for a season. The scandal, known as "Bountygate," was an operation in the organization in which players allegedly received payment for injuring opponents.

“If people are waiting on the league to investigate that, they shouldn’t hold their breath,” Payton said. “I think what took place with us back in 2011 in so many ways was a sham, and yet there wasn’t a lot that we could do with it. The players were vindicated, but from a league or coaching standpoint, there's no union, there's no representation. But I would be shocked, that'll be something that gets tucked away or under the rug at Park Avenue. They'll look into it briefly.”

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ChrisXVI 05-15-2020 07:55 PM
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Welp, kiss the Super Bowl goodbye this year boys.

Thirty3 05-15-2020 08:12 PM
Re: Saints' Sean Payton calls 'Bountygate' punishment 'a sham' as he reacts to former linebacker's claim
 
Sometimes.....you just can't help yourself.

Utah_Saint 05-15-2020 08:50 PM
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He's not wrong.

SmashMouth 05-15-2020 09:00 PM
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st thomas 05-15-2020 10:54 PM
Re: Saints' Sean Payton calls 'Bountygate' punishment 'a sham' as he reacts to former linebacker's claim
 
The only MFers that should be investigated is goodell and his asre wipes refs. Oops stay thirsty my friends


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nola_swammi 05-16-2020 06:45 AM
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That was a P.R. nightmare for the league. They’re attention was to show they were concern with players having concussions to avoid those lawsuits against the league and tried to make the Saints the sacrificial lamb that backfired. Their were no evidence of any money exchange and Goodell was the judge and prosecutor. Good thing he recuse himself on the players and Taligbue exonerated the players

st thomas 05-16-2020 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 889012)
That was a P.R. nightmare for the league. They’re attention was to show they were concern with players having concussions to avoid those lawsuits against the league and tried to make the Saints the sacrificial lamb that backfired. Their were no evidence of any money exchange and Goodell was the judge and prosecutor. Good thing he recuse himself on the players and Taligbue exonerated the players

It would have never happened in New York , goodell would be selling Avon if he tried to finger the Giants.


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jeanpierre 05-16-2020 07:12 AM
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Lost on the General Public, even most Saints Fans, Goodell had to appoint former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue to take over the case because Goodell had become overly bias...

Further lost, and forgotten by most folks and the media, Paul Tagliabue exonerated the players and reversed Goodell's suspensions for the players; barely reported by #MSM...

Still tune out anytime that fat f*ck Peter King who claimed he'd seen the 10K pages of evidences in a private disclosure with the Commissioner and then later said the Commissioner had an evidence problem...

These #fakenews f*cks in the media get away with anything with no repercussions and jackhole judges throw out any civil remedy cases hiding behind first amendment...

Politics aside, You shouldn't get to trash folks with no evidence without consequences and accountablity...

K Major 05-16-2020 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 888992)
Welp, kiss the Super Bowl goodbye this year boys.
James Harrison brought it up, not Sean Payton. And being "quiet" over the last decade hasn't exactly helped us win another Lombardi either.

When that day comes when Sean retires and is out of the league ... hope he tells everything and rips up the league. Maybe coach will wear that Goddell clown shirt in the season opener vs The Bucs/Brady bunch :rolleyes:.

I have zero issues with him speaking his mind.

AsylumGuido 05-16-2020 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 889014)
Lost on the General Public, even most Saints Fans, Goodell had to appoint former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue to take over the case because Goodell had become overly bias...

Further lost, and forgotten by most folks and the media, Paul Tagliabue exonerated the players and reversed Goodell's suspensions for the players; barely reported by #MSM...

Still tune out anytime that fat f*ck Peter King who claimed he'd seen the 10K pages of evidences in a private disclosure with the Commissioner and then later said the Commissioner had an evidence problem...

These #fakenews f*cks in the media get away with anything with no repercussions and jackhole judges throw out any civil remedy cases hiding behind first amendment...

Politics aside, You shouldn't get to trash folks with no evidence without consequences and accountablity...
Hallelujah! Preach it my Brother! I have posted hours worth of two fingered documentary on all of these facts. There are still idiots on our own forum that believe in the lies. Don't forget that Scott Fujita was pegged as a ringleader in the fictitious "bounty program". Not only did he swear through an affidavit that there was no program that was submitted to the District Court, but he is one of the most respectable men I have ever followed. He has been right there throughout everything that the Gleason's have endured. An incredible man.

TheOak 05-17-2020 06:04 AM
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A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep.

st thomas 05-17-2020 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 889071)
A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep.

Oak , I get it but shouldn’t it be the wolf on sheep?


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vpheughan 05-17-2020 09:31 AM
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I believe I posted this on the NFL page. So much for me attempting to be as SIRIUS!! as the vaunted NFL radio!!!:rofl: :rofl:

Also MR BOLD FONT: Goodell appointing Tagliabue to do his thing wasn't lost on ME at any time during the investigation.

I live in Indy to boot!!

TheOak 05-17-2020 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 889075)
Oak , I get it but shouldn’t it be the wolf on sheep?


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It is a quote that is dated as far back as Aesop's Fables but can have many variations, all of which are driven by the perception of the subject.

Logically it should be Sheppard or Sheep Dog but Sean doesn't see himself as that pedestrian.

A wolf is sinister and a scavenger.... Not Sean either.

The Lion however lends to being noble.

Sean much like Trump can not stop stepping on their dicks when a microphone is placed in front of them. Each should practice restraint and not engage low IQ media banter. Like a facebook meme they both see themselves as something other than how they act.

My fear is that Sean has spent so much tie in Louisiana that he see's himself as a victim and in spite of 8 years passing still feels like he needs to defend himself or "rise up"...

There is absolutely nothing productive to mentioning the subject or answering questions about it ever again.

st thomas 05-17-2020 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 889084)
It is a quote that is dated as far back as Aesop's Fables but can have many variations, all of which are driven by the perception of the subject.

Logically it should be Sheppard or Sheep Dog but Sean doesn't see himself as that pedestrian.

A wolf is sinister and a scavenger.... Not Sean either.

The Lion however lends to being noble.

Sean much like Trump can not stop stepping on their dicks when a microphone is placed in front of them. Each should practice restraint and not engage low IQ media banter. Like a facebook meme they both see themselves as something other than how they act.

My fear is that Sean has spent so much tie in Louisiana that he see's himself as a victim and in spite of 8 years passing still feels like he needs to defend himself or "rise up"...

There is absolutely nothing productive to mentioning the subject or answering questions about it ever again.

No comment after that [emoji2935]


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saintsfan1976 05-17-2020 12:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 889014)
Lost on the General Public, even most Saints Fans, Goodell had to appoint former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue to take over the case because Goodell had become overly bias...

Further lost, and forgotten by most folks and the media, Paul Tagliabue exonerated the players and reversed Goodell's suspensions for the players; barely reported by #MSM...

Still tune out anytime that fat f*ck Peter King who claimed he'd seen the 10K pages of evidences in a private disclosure with the Commissioner and then later said the Commissioner had an evidence problem...

These #fakenews f*cks in the media get away with anything with no repercussions and jackhole judges throw out any civil remedy cases hiding behind first amendment...

Politics aside, You shouldn't get to trash folks with no evidence without consequences and accountablity...
Exactly!

Total sham, not coincidentally running parallel to the microscope placed on the NFL for H I D I N G critical science regarding concussions, player safety and CTE.

I will ALWAYS say F Goodell and his witch hunt!

neugey 05-17-2020 12:20 PM
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Coach Payton is wrong. He will get over Bountygate. We just have to win a Super Bowl to make it happen.

TheOak 05-17-2020 01:06 PM
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Another thing that is lost to the general public and most Saints fans is that Goodell's power was sold to him by the NFLPA. Namely DeMaruice Smith who is either incompetent or in bed with Goodell to agree to the clause in the CBA that made Goodell his own arbitrator.

Try and blame Goodell if you like, he is just exhibiting human nature. Goodell is a product of the 32 owners intended to take the brunt of the public anger. <---- Get your head wrapped around that and you will know the answers to all the unanswered questions about Goodell.

Rugby Saint II 05-17-2020 03:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 889084)
It is a quote that is dated as far back as Aesop's Fables but can have many variations, all of which are driven by the perception of the subject.

Logically it should be Sheppard or Sheep Dog but Sean doesn't see himself as that pedestrian.

A wolf is sinister and a scavenger.... Not Sean either.

The Lion however lends to being noble.

Sean much like Trump can not stop stepping on their dicks when a microphone is placed in front of them. Each should practice restraint and not engage low IQ media banter. Like a facebook meme they both see themselves as something other than how they act.

My fear is that Sean has spent so much tie in Louisiana that he see's himself as a victim and in spite of 8 years passing still feels like he needs to defend himself or "rise up"...

There is absolutely nothing productive to mentioning the subject or answering questions about it ever again.
Oak, I beg to differ my friend. I would feel exactlythe same way as Payton....maybe even vindictive after the lies and smear campaign by Godhell. I'm behind coach venting when there is a question asked. It's not like he mentions it every game day or something.

SmashMouth 05-17-2020 09:27 PM
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TheOak 05-18-2020 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 889099)
Oak, I beg to differ my friend. I would feel exactlythe same way as Payton....maybe even vindictive after the lies and smear campaign by Godhell. I'm behind coach venting when there is a question asked. It's not like he mentions it every game day or something.
As a lot of people would and do. Venting is only required when something is carried inside and allowed it to fester. I grew up around people that were always angry, angry because they were wronged in every direction by everyone and they were never at fault.... victims. It took me a while to realize that, that isn't normal and it takes away from family and friends.

I am just not willing to let some ***** become a permanent part of my life, which is what happens. Right now in many a Saints fans heads, Roger Goodell has set up shop and occupies permanent emotional residence.

People will rationalize it any way they can find but in 2012 Sean Payton was suspended for Bounty Gate and after that... both his coaching and marriage suffered, one to the point of collapse. Goodell doesn't effect fans that severely but people that let one thing effect them like this generally carry a lot of little **** around them and the baggage effects their lives and families.

Life can be equally wonderful and tragic, and while life is very personal the tings that happen to someone generally aren't... :bng::chug:

st thomas 05-18-2020 08:48 AM
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Wish more coaches had the nads to speak up , Payton signed a release not to pursue goodell asre in a lawsuit that would have shamed the league . Swindell was out of place using private investigators that work for him, if there was bodily harm brought to a player by a payed employee the real cops should have been involved and it goes nowhere . The fat fuuuk Pete k said there was a evidence issue. Well let’s go on his findings. Right no , Pete Rozelle trashed it all and sent everyone back to normal. Are u kidding me. Hammer that fuuuking goodell every day of every week. Stay safe


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st thomas 05-18-2020 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 889118)
As a lot of people would and do. Venting is only required when something is carried inside and allowed it to fester. I grew up around people that were always angry, angry because they were wronged in every direction by everyone and they were never at fault.... victims. It took me a while to realize that, that isn't normal and it takes away from family and friends.

I am just not willing to let some ***** become a permanent part of my life, which is what happens. Right now in many a Saints fans heads, Roger Goodell has set up shop and occupies permanent emotional residence.

People will rationalize it any way they can find but in 2012 Sean Payton was suspended for Bounty Gate and after that... both his coaching and marriage suffered, one to the point of collapse. Goodell doesn't effect fans that severely but people that let one thing effect them like this generally carry a lot of little **** around them and the baggage effects their lives and families.

Life can be equally wonderful and tragic, and while life is very personal the tings that happen to someone generally aren't... :bng::chug:

Ur probably right on people holding grudges on some things like my wife of 38 years because I danced with an ex girlfriend at a 40th class reunion .


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Rugby Saint II 05-19-2020 01:21 PM
Re: Saints' Sean Payton calls 'Bountygate' punishment 'a sham' as he reacts to former linebacker's claim
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 889118)
As a lot of people would and do. Venting is only required when something is carried inside and allowed it to fester. I grew up around people that were always angry, angry because they were wronged in every direction by everyone and they were never at fault.... victims. It took me a while to realize that, that isn't normal and it takes away from family and friends.

I am just not willing to let some ***** become a permanent part of my life, which is what happens. Right now in many a Saints fans heads, Roger Goodell has set up shop and occupies permanent emotional residence.

People will rationalize it any way they can find but in 2012 Sean Payton was suspended for Bounty Gate and after that... both his coaching and marriage suffered, one to the point of collapse. Goodell doesn't effect fans that severely but people that let one thing effect them like this generally carry a lot of little **** around them and the baggage effects their lives and families.

Life can be equally wonderful and tragic, and while life is very personal the tings that happen to someone generally aren't... :bng::chug:
Everyone that I know think I'm one of the most upbeat people they've ever met. I'm a live and let live kind of guy. However, when I run across someone who has done me dirty I don't forgive and forget. I don't necessarily always get even but I do hold a grudge waiting for the chance to make them pay. I'm funny like that. If you do me wrong you'll either apologize in earnest or I'll find a way to get even. It's called Karma....and I'm my own enforcer!:brood:


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