Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change

jnormand · 06-03-2020, 08:05 AM

Smash whistling..."Hey fellas. I found this grenade...oops...the pin fell out..."

Lol

jeanpierre · 06-03-2020, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Smash whistling..."Hey fellas. I found this grenade...oops...the pin fell out..."

Lol

vpheughan · 06-03-2020, 08:49 AM

I've experienced it from the bad cop side.

Knew a fanatical racist who became a member of the NOPD.

No way in hell this guy should have been a policeman

He was.

His career ended the way you'd expect a racist cop in New Orleans would. Not from an Internal Affairs investigation but by his pulling the trigger.

It's obvious the police can't police themselves. Until some external mechanism is put in place to weed out bad cops the murder of innocent people will continue.

As for Paytons comments, he didn't know or couldn't control members of his own staff.

TheOak · 06-03-2020, 09:36 AM

Honestly I am not sure what I would do in Sean Payton's position, if I were my initial inclination would be to focus on my job and not get involved.

But..

Scrolling through social media I can tell that 80% of my players, people that look up to me, are being effected by this issue and every other posting is a molested martin Luther King Jr. quote echoing that "silence is compliance".
His move was tactical and well played given the presumption that saying nothing means he is okay with all of it.

His comment is valid, the only way to change the system is to vote differently. He did not target anyone that he had to deal with locally which is smart, instead he targeted someone that was insignificant in the grand scheme of things but still pointed the finger at the system.

Because it is the system isn't it? There are 1000 +/- civilians shot to death by police every year and assuming human error factor of at least 5% that equates to 50 bad shootings per year. Since 2005 only 35 officers have been convicted for fatal shootings. Police Chiefs cant fire, DA's don't Prosecute, Judges don't convict, and Mayors turn a blind eye. What is the missing factor? Unions Reps are the first thing a cop asks for, they provide counsel and have the power (votes) to pressure the elected officials.

Politicians and the media want you to miss the Forrest for the trees.

Note: I say insignificant because the POTUS is not supposed to be involved in matters of the sate and he need to go in his closet and shut up.

iceshack149 · 06-03-2020, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Honestly I am not sure what I would do in Sean Payton's position, if I were my initial inclination would be to focus on my job and not get involved.

But..

Scrolling through social media I can tell that 80% of my players, people that look up to me, are being effected by this issue and every other posting is a molested martin Luther King Jr. quote echoing that "silence is compliance".
His move was tactical and well played given the presumption that saying nothing means he is okay with all of it.

His comment is valid, the only way to change the system is to vote differently. He did not target anyone that he had to deal with locally which is smart, instead he targeted someone that was insignificant in the grand scheme of things but still pointed the finger at the system.

Because it is the system isn't it? There are 1000 +/- civilians shot to death by police every year and assuming human error factor of at least 5% that equates to 50 bad shootings per year. Since 2005 only 35 officers have been convicted for fatal shootings. Police Chiefs cant fire, DA's don't Prosecute, Judges don't convict, and Mayors turn a blind eye. What is the missing factor? Unions Reps are the first thing a cop asks for, they provide counsel and have the power (votes) to pressure the elected officials.

Politicians and the media want you to miss the Forrest for the trees.

Note: I say insignificant because the POTUS is not supposed to be involved in matters of the sate and he need to go in his closet and shut up.

Good points, Oak. And who's to say that Payton isn't posturing to uber-talented free agent players that might accept playing for a team that offers less money so that he can play for a coach that's on "his side" politically speaking.

Perhaps it's not fair to assume that of Sean Payton but the idea is not unheard of.

ChrisXVI · 06-03-2020, 01:39 PM

Well Drew Brees is now the #1 trending topic on Twitter for comments about not supporting disrespecting the flag or the country and it’s not going well for him at all. Even Michael Thomas had words for him.

AsylumGuido · 06-03-2020, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Well Drew Brees is now the #1 trending topic on Twitter for comments about not supporting disrespecting the flag or the country and it’s not going well for him at all. Even Michael Thomas had words for him.

A small snippet, of course, taken out of context. Par for the course with social media.

shawnkytonk · 06-03-2020, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

A small snippet, of course, taken out of context. Par for the course with social media.

After seeing just a sharing of the article I wondered what was really going on.

AsylumGuido · 06-03-2020, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

After seeing just a sharing of the article I wondered what was really going on.

Agendas being served on both sides with what ever the can. Personally, I despise both the right and the left. They both make me sick.

blackangold · 06-03-2020, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Well Drew Brees is now the #1 trending topic on Twitter for comments about not supporting disrespecting the flag or the country and it’s not going well for him at all. Even Michael Thomas had words for him.

folks should not worry about twitter... half are bots, the other half are mostly brain dead.

06-03-2020, 08:46 AM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change Originally Posted by jnormand Smash whistling..."Hey fellas. I found this grenade...oops...the pin fell out..." Lol

06-03-2020, 08:49 AM	#3
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,565	Re: Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change I've experienced it from the bad cop side. Knew a fanatical racist who became a member of the NOPD. No way in hell this guy should have been a policeman He was. His career ended the way you'd expect a racist cop in New Orleans would. Not from an Internal Affairs investigation but by his pulling the trigger. It's obvious the police can't police themselves. Until some external mechanism is put in place to weed out bad cops the murder of innocent people will continue. As for Paytons comments, he didn't know or couldn't control members of his own staff. darksoul35 likes this.
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06-03-2020, 09:36 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change Honestly I am not sure what I would do in Sean Payton's position, if I were my initial inclination would be to focus on my job and not get involved. But.. Scrolling through social media I can tell that 80% of my players, people that look up to me, are being effected by this issue and every other posting is a molested martin Luther King Jr. quote echoing that "silence is compliance". His move was tactical and well played given the presumption that saying nothing means he is okay with all of it. His comment is valid, the only way to change the system is to vote differently. He did not target anyone that he had to deal with locally which is smart, instead he targeted someone that was insignificant in the grand scheme of things but still pointed the finger at the system. Because it is the system isn't it? There are 1000 +/- civilians shot to death by police every year and assuming human error factor of at least 5% that equates to 50 bad shootings per year. Since 2005 only 35 officers have been convicted for fatal shootings. Police Chiefs cant fire, DA's don't Prosecute, Judges don't convict, and Mayors turn a blind eye. What is the missing factor? Unions Reps are the first thing a cop asks for, they provide counsel and have the power (votes) to pressure the elected officials. Politicians and the media want you to miss the Forrest for the trees. Note: I say insignificant because the POTUS is not supposed to be involved in matters of the sate and he need to go in his closet and shut up. iceshack149 and darksoul35 like this.
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06-03-2020, 12:44 PM	#5
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,465 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change Originally Posted by TheOak Honestly I am not sure what I would do in Sean Payton's position, if I were my initial inclination would be to focus on my job and not get involved. But.. Scrolling through social media I can tell that 80% of my players, people that look up to me, are being effected by this issue and every other posting is a molested martin Luther King Jr. quote echoing that "silence is compliance". His move was tactical and well played given the presumption that saying nothing means he is okay with all of it. His comment is valid, the only way to change the system is to vote differently. He did not target anyone that he had to deal with locally which is smart, instead he targeted someone that was insignificant in the grand scheme of things but still pointed the finger at the system. Because it is the system isn't it? There are 1000 +/- civilians shot to death by police every year and assuming human error factor of at least 5% that equates to 50 bad shootings per year. Since 2005 only 35 officers have been convicted for fatal shootings. Police Chiefs cant fire, DA's don't Prosecute, Judges don't convict, and Mayors turn a blind eye. What is the missing factor? Unions Reps are the first thing a cop asks for, they provide counsel and have the power (votes) to pressure the elected officials. Politicians and the media want you to miss the Forrest for the trees. Note: I say insignificant because the POTUS is not supposed to be involved in matters of the sate and he need to go in his closet and shut up. Good points, Oak. And who's to say that Payton isn't posturing to uber-talented free agent players that might accept playing for a team that offers less money so that he can play for a coach that's on "his side" politically speaking. Perhaps it's not fair to assume that of Sean Payton but the idea is not unheard of.

06-03-2020, 01:39 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change Well Drew Brees is now the #1 trending topic on Twitter for comments about not supporting disrespecting the flag or the country and it’s not going well for him at all. Even Michael Thomas had words for him.

06-03-2020, 08:05 AM	#1
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,795	Re: Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change Smash whistling..."Hey fellas. I found this grenade...oops...the pin fell out..." Lol jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

06-03-2020, 02:00 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Well Drew Brees is now the #1 trending topic on Twitter for comments about not supporting disrespecting the flag or the country and it’s not going well for him at all. Even Michael Thomas had words for him. A small snippet, of course, taken out of context. Par for the course with social media. K Major likes this.

06-03-2020, 05:34 PM	#8
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change Originally Posted by AsylumGuido A small snippet, of course, taken out of context. Par for the course with social media. After seeing just a sharing of the article I wondered what was really going on.

06-03-2020, 05:44 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change Originally Posted by shawnkytonk After seeing just a sharing of the article I wondered what was really going on. Agendas being served on both sides with what ever the can. Personally, I despise both the right and the left. They both make me sick. OldMaid and shawnkytonk like this.

06-03-2020, 02:46 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Well Drew Brees is now the #1 trending topic on Twitter for comments about not supporting disrespecting the flag or the country and it’s not going well for him at all. Even Michael Thomas had words for him. folks should not worry about twitter... half are bots, the other half are mostly brain dead. AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.