Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

frydaddy · 06-03-2020, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

In before the media writes us off and says we have no chance because we don't agree. Then we go and beat the brakes off the Bucs. It will be like angry married couple make up sex (with a cat in tow)

Hope you're right man, but if they don't resolve this it's gonna cause issues. Brees may not be so willing to put it all on the line for a bunch of guys who stabbed him in the back. And these entitled children sure aren't likely to go out of their way to help a guy who so cruelly hurt their feelings through no fault of his own. Shame too because this was already going to be a tough year with the abbreviated offseason. Drew is nearing the end and I really wanted to see him go out on top. I'm afraid this will derail any hope of that happening.

RailBoss · 06-03-2020, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

In before the media writes us off and says we have no chance because we don't agree. Then we go and beat the brakes off the Bucs. It will be like angry married couple make up sex (with a cat in tow)

Thanks for that cat gif Neugey, I'll bet Forever Fan is smiling down on you for keeping up the tradition.

OldMaid · 06-03-2020, 11:01 PM

Brees is being protested in New Orleans.

: https://publish.twitter.com/?query=h...3&widget=Tweet

neugey · 06-03-2020, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

Brees is being protested in New Orleans.: https://publish.twitter.com/?query=h...3&widget=Tweet

SMH. I was going to try to go to bed happy that the vermin cops who were accomplices finally got charged tonight.

OldMaid · 06-03-2020, 11:23 PM

He has to fix this tomorrow.
Of course, during the season, media will recap it because.
He needs to come back and say, not that it will help, he is sorry that he offended anyone. He does not support police brutality. He spoke out of term for others. He has listened to his teammates and his colleagues. He respects others rights and freedoms and what the flag and pledge means to them or does not and their rights to feel that way.
For him, he choses to stand and will because it is personal due to his family members who served in the U.S. military. He supports the right and choice of those who wish to kneel, sit down, stand , or burn the American flag.

Sometimes you just have to eat it your mistake. Me...my niece. No forgiveness from her. Oh well.
Of course , Brees saying this, the same media and players will come back and say how wrong it is for him to call for burning the U. S flag and how he is not a team player for wanting to make himself stand up.

blackangold · 06-04-2020, 01:03 AM

If I were Drew I would just choose to retire. He played because he enjoyed the team... that isn’t going to happen now.

It’s sad, but the saints are in trouble. Bad timing on Drew’s part, childish response by those who he thought were friends.

Really wanted to see him get another ring, but now it won’t happen. The team always had great chemistry.

So many people need to grow up and educate themselves beyond their own perspective. Diversity of thought is just as important as diversity of culture. But apparently we live in the era of “think like me or your racist”... what a shame.

SmashMouth · 06-04-2020, 07:14 AM

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rezburna · 06-04-2020, 07:38 AM

When you say people should protest gun violence Chicago, and evidence is shown that people already do, but you dismiss that evidence with ease it says to me your concern was disingenuous from the start. Bringing it up was merely a tactic to dismiss any and all complaints from the community. It’s moving the goal posts.

I was already aware of protests, marches, and organizations created to stop gun violence. Anybody who’s really interested would know as well. A friend of mine and myself were texting yesterday morning and spitballing more innovative things we could do through his organization to address that specific issue. Gun safety training. Fun and informative. Job programs. Nothing would help more than being able to raise them up out of poverty stricken situations, but we do what we can.

I get it. Y’all believe police brutality is a non-issue and y’all don’t give a **** what anybody has to say about it, and that’s fine. Just say that. Don’t pretend to care about other things to downplay what’s going on now. “What about Black on Black crime?” is an inappropriate response.

As far as the original post is concern, I’m speaking on the Saints. Drew’s teammates and former teammates seem to be on the same accord. Thomas, Kamara, Jenkins, Sanders, and Jordan all had something to say. That’s almost every leader on the team. I’m sure the silent majority is powerful in the United States. That’s evident. However, the majority in the NFL is different from the majority in real life.

No comment would have sufficed.

blackangold · 06-04-2020, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

When you say people should protest gun violence Chicago, and evidence is shown that people already do, but you dismiss that evidence with ease it says to me your concern was disingenuous from the start. Bringing it up was merely a tactic to dismiss any and all complaints from the community. It’s moving the goal posts.

I was already aware of protests, marches, and organizations created to stop gun violence. Anybody who’s really interested would know as well. A friend of mine and myself were texting yesterday morning and spitballing more innovative things we could do through his organization to address that specific issue. Gun safety training. Fun and informative. Job programs. Nothing would help more than being able to raise them up out of poverty stricken situations, but we do what we can.

I get it. Y’all believe police brutality is a non-issue and y’all don’t give a **** what anybody has to say about it, and that’s fine. Just say that. Don’t pretend to care about other things to downplay what’s going on now. “What about Black on Black crime?” is an inappropriate response.

As far as the original post is concern, I’m speaking on the Saints. Drew’s teammates and former teammates seem to be on the same accord. Thomas, Kamara, Jenkins, Sanders, and Jordan all had something to say. That’s almost every leader on the team. I’m sure the silent majority is powerful in the United States. That’s evident. However, the majority in the NFL is different from the majority in real life.

No comment would have sufficed.

Rez

I believe there is a problem with police abuse of power, and there has been for some time. Many of them are trained to subvert the constitution and leave people thinking they have no right to silence or against unreasonable searches.

If Black Lives Matter why can’t the black community stop killing each other at alarming rates? Why does a “snitches get stitches” culture exist? Your seen as a race trader if you work with law enforcement to get criminals out of your community. Nothing can change, no investment into business of color or in minority areas can occur if it’s filled with crime. If the community itself doesn’t realize that change starts from within, nothing from the outside will matter.

Few solutions from my perspective:
1. De-criminalize non-violent crimes (drug crimes, crimes against property are violent). This locks up too many people for just wanting to get high. Focus should be on violence and rehab for non-violent offenders.

2. Body cameras to be mandatory for all police departments and are required to be running at all times.

3. National training effort for police regarding abuse of power and de-escalating tactics.

4. Incentivize and heavily promote trade programs in poor communities. Make the training free to provide skills and a way out for people in these communities that feel like they have no choice but crime.

Just my thoughts... if people are going to protest for change they need to know what policy changes they want.

rezburna · 06-04-2020, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Rez

I believe there is a problem with police abuse of power, and there has been for some time. Many of them are trained to subvert the constitution and leave people thinking they have no right to silence or against unreasonable searches.

If Black Lives Matter why can’t the black community stop killing each other at alarming rates? Why does a “snitches get stitches” culture exist? Your seen as a race trader if you work with law enforcement to get criminals out of your community. Nothing can change, no investment into business of color or in minority areas can occur if it’s filled with crime. If the community itself doesn’t realize that change starts from within, nothing from the outside will matter.

Few solutions from my perspective:
1. De-criminalize non-violent crimes (drug crimes, crimes against property are violent). This locks up too many people for just wanting to get high. Focus should be on violence and rehab for non-violent offenders.

2. Body cameras to be mandatory for all police departments and are required to be running at all times.

3. Notional training effort for police regarding abuse of power and de-escalating tactics.

4. Incentivize and heavily promote trade programs in poor communities. Make the training free to provide skills and a way out for people in these communities that feel like they have no choice but crime.

Just my thoughts... if people are going to protest for change they need to know what policy changes they want.

Poverty and violent criminality go hand in hand. There’s study after study detailing that. Most importantly, that should have no bearing on police brutality. Maybe if Black people were killing police at an alarming rate I could see the connection. And snitches get stitches is universal law in all street environments. Does the Yakuza allow snitches? Italians? Mexicans? Nobody does.

Your ideas for legislation are great though for those who see legislation as the end goal.

06-03-2020, 10:39 PM	#1
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,964 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by neugey In before the media writes us off and says we have no chance because we don't agree. Then we go and beat the brakes off the Bucs. It will be like angry married couple make up sex (with a cat in tow) Hope you're right man, but if they don't resolve this it's gonna cause issues. Brees may not be so willing to put it all on the line for a bunch of guys who stabbed him in the back. And these entitled children sure aren't likely to go out of their way to help a guy who so cruelly hurt their feelings through no fault of his own. Shame too because this was already going to be a tough year with the abbreviated offseason. Drew is nearing the end and I really wanted to see him go out on top. I'm afraid this will derail any hope of that happening.
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06-03-2020, 10:41 PM	#2
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by neugey In before the media writes us off and says we have no chance because we don't agree. Then we go and beat the brakes off the Bucs. It will be like angry married couple make up sex (with a cat in tow) Thanks for that cat gif Neugey, I'll bet Forever Fan is smiling down on you for keeping up the tradition. neugey, Rugby Saint II and frydaddy like this.

06-03-2020, 11:01 PM	#3
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,919 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Brees is being protested in New Orleans.: https://publish.twitter.com/?query=h...3&widget=Tweet

06-03-2020, 11:11 PM	#4
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,879 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by OldMaid Brees is being protested in New Orleans.: https://publish.twitter.com/?query=h...3&widget=Tweet SMH. I was going to try to go to bed happy that the vermin cops who were accomplices finally got charged tonight. OldMaid likes this.

06-03-2020, 11:23 PM	#5
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,919 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments He has to fix this tomorrow. Of course, during the season, media will recap it because. He needs to come back and say, not that it will help, he is sorry that he offended anyone. He does not support police brutality. He spoke out of term for others. He has listened to his teammates and his colleagues. He respects others rights and freedoms and what the flag and pledge means to them or does not and their rights to feel that way. For him, he choses to stand and will because it is personal due to his family members who served in the U.S. military. He supports the right and choice of those who wish to kneel, sit down, stand , or burn the American flag. Sometimes you just have to eat it your mistake. Me...my niece. No forgiveness from her. Oh well. Of course , Brees saying this, the same media and players will come back and say how wrong it is for him to call for burning the U. S flag and how he is not a team player for wanting to make himself stand up. skymike likes this.

06-04-2020, 01:03 AM	#6
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments If I were Drew I would just choose to retire. He played because he enjoyed the team... that isn’t going to happen now. It’s sad, but the saints are in trouble. Bad timing on Drew’s part, childish response by those who he thought were friends. Really wanted to see him get another ring, but now it won’t happen. The team always had great chemistry. So many people need to grow up and educate themselves beyond their own perspective. Diversity of thought is just as important as diversity of culture. But apparently we live in the era of “think like me or your racist”... what a shame. iceshack149, spkb25, Rugby Saint II and 3 others like this.
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06-04-2020, 07:14 AM	#7
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,122	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments When you say people should protest gun violence Chicago, and evidence is shown that people already do, but you dismiss that evidence with ease it says to me your concern was disingenuous from the start. Bringing it up was merely a tactic to dismiss any and all complaints from the community. It’s moving the goal posts. I was already aware of protests, marches, and organizations created to stop gun violence. Anybody who’s really interested would know as well. A friend of mine and myself were texting yesterday morning and spitballing more innovative things we could do through his organization to address that specific issue. Gun safety training. Fun and informative. Job programs. Nothing would help more than being able to raise them up out of poverty stricken situations, but we do what we can. I get it. Y’all believe police brutality is a non-issue and y’all don’t give a **** what anybody has to say about it, and that’s fine. Just say that. Don’t pretend to care about other things to downplay what’s going on now. “What about Black on Black crime?” is an inappropriate response. As far as the original post is concern, I’m speaking on the Saints. Drew’s teammates and former teammates seem to be on the same accord. Thomas, Kamara, Jenkins, Sanders, and Jordan all had something to say. That’s almost every leader on the team. I’m sure the silent majority is powerful in the United States. That’s evident. However, the majority in the NFL is different from the majority in real life. No comment would have sufficed. SmashMouth, cmike, darksoul35 and 1 others like this.
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06-04-2020, 08:32 AM	#9
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by rezburna When you say people should protest gun violence Chicago, and evidence is shown that people already do, but you dismiss that evidence with ease it says to me your concern was disingenuous from the start. Bringing it up was merely a tactic to dismiss any and all complaints from the community. It’s moving the goal posts. I was already aware of protests, marches, and organizations created to stop gun violence. Anybody who’s really interested would know as well. A friend of mine and myself were texting yesterday morning and spitballing more innovative things we could do through his organization to address that specific issue. Gun safety training. Fun and informative. Job programs. Nothing would help more than being able to raise them up out of poverty stricken situations, but we do what we can. I get it. Y’all believe police brutality is a non-issue and y’all don’t give a **** what anybody has to say about it, and that’s fine. Just say that. Don’t pretend to care about other things to downplay what’s going on now. “What about Black on Black crime?” is an inappropriate response. As far as the original post is concern, I’m speaking on the Saints. Drew’s teammates and former teammates seem to be on the same accord. Thomas, Kamara, Jenkins, Sanders, and Jordan all had something to say. That’s almost every leader on the team. I’m sure the silent majority is powerful in the United States. That’s evident. However, the majority in the NFL is different from the majority in real life. No comment would have sufficed. Rez I believe there is a problem with police abuse of power, and there has been for some time. Many of them are trained to subvert the constitution and leave people thinking they have no right to silence or against unreasonable searches. If Black Lives Matter why can’t the black community stop killing each other at alarming rates? Why does a “snitches get stitches” culture exist? Your seen as a race trader if you work with law enforcement to get criminals out of your community. Nothing can change, no investment into business of color or in minority areas can occur if it’s filled with crime. If the community itself doesn’t realize that change starts from within, nothing from the outside will matter. Few solutions from my perspective: 1. De-criminalize non-violent crimes (drug crimes, crimes against property are violent). This locks up too many people for just wanting to get high. Focus should be on violence and rehab for non-violent offenders. 2. Body cameras to be mandatory for all police departments and are required to be running at all times. 3. National training effort for police regarding abuse of power and de-escalating tactics. 4. Incentivize and heavily promote trade programs in poor communities. Make the training free to provide skills and a way out for people in these communities that feel like they have no choice but crime. Just my thoughts... if people are going to protest for change they need to know what policy changes they want. darksoul35 likes this.
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06-04-2020, 08:38 AM	#10
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,122	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by blackangold Rez I believe there is a problem with police abuse of power, and there has been for some time. Many of them are trained to subvert the constitution and leave people thinking they have no right to silence or against unreasonable searches. If Black Lives Matter why can’t the black community stop killing each other at alarming rates? Why does a “snitches get stitches” culture exist? Your seen as a race trader if you work with law enforcement to get criminals out of your community. Nothing can change, no investment into business of color or in minority areas can occur if it’s filled with crime. If the community itself doesn’t realize that change starts from within, nothing from the outside will matter. Few solutions from my perspective: 1. De-criminalize non-violent crimes (drug crimes, crimes against property are violent). This locks up too many people for just wanting to get high. Focus should be on violence and rehab for non-violent offenders. 2. Body cameras to be mandatory for all police departments and are required to be running at all times. 3. Notional training effort for police regarding abuse of power and de-escalating tactics. 4. Incentivize and heavily promote trade programs in poor communities. Make the training free to provide skills and a way out for people in these communities that feel like they have no choice but crime. Just my thoughts... if people are going to protest for change they need to know what policy changes they want. Poverty and violent criminality go hand in hand. There’s study after study detailing that. Most importantly, that should have no bearing on police brutality. Maybe if Black people were killing police at an alarming rate I could see the connection. And snitches get stitches is universal law in all street environments. Does the Yakuza allow snitches? Italians? Mexicans? Nobody does. Your ideas for legislation are great though for those who see legislation as the end goal. cmike likes this.