Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

lynwood · 06-04-2020, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Brees isn't done. You give too little respect for the integrity of players like Demario Davis and Malcolm Jenkins. Davis has already come out praising Brees' leadership in admitting to making a mistake. I have little doubt Jenkins, and the rest of the team, will do the same. This is an opportunity for ALL involved to learn something new.

At first I was one of those that didn't get the kneeling action during the anthem, but I have since learned that players that kneel have the right to do just that as Americans and I no longer have an issue with it at all. I feel Brees is learning that more and more Americans are feeling the same way. Good people do and say stupid things every day. Good people also forgive those that do and say stupid things, especially if they can learn from their mistakes.

Well until others say something then it's unknown. They were quick to publicly admonish him, why not be just a quick to accept the apology?I hope it gets resolved and I hope he doesn't have to kneel unless he wants to.

AsylumGuido · 06-04-2020, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by lynwood

Well until others say something then it's unknown. They were quick to publicly admonish him, why not be just a quick to accept the apology?I hope it gets resolved and I hope he doesn't have to kneel unless he wants to.

Thomas and Jenkins have both shared in the last hour that they have accepted Brees' apology and are ready to move forward, just as had Davis early.

frydaddy · 06-04-2020, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Thomas and Jenkins have both shared in the last hour that they have accepted Brees' apology and are ready to move forward, just as had Davis early.

Jenkins can suck a fat one. He went on a tirade against Drew. He owes Drew an even bigger apology, and it had better be very public. Otherwise he can get ****ed.

AsylumGuido · 06-04-2020, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Jenkins can suck a fat one. He went on a tirade against Drew. He owes Drew an even bigger apology, and it had better be very public. Otherwise he can get ****ed.

It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest.

St. Sherman · 06-04-2020, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest.

If only players, fans and media also took this rational attitude before demanding public apologies for Brees sharing his opinion. I guess better late than never.

frydaddy · 06-04-2020, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest.

Oh? But it's fine that they demand an apology from him? And it's fine that they demand he agree with them? And it's fine that they took his opinion, which is his business, twisted it and used it to stab him in the back?

Your double standard is showing.

AsylumGuido · 06-04-2020, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Oh? But it's fine that they demand an apology from him? And it's fine that they demand he agree with them? And it's fine that they took his opinion, which is his business, twisted it and used it to stab him in the back?

Your double standard is showing.

Nope. There is a big difference you are completely missing. Brees said something that offended many people across a wide spectrum. He offered a public apology to the general public for that statement and a private apology to others. What you are claiming Jenkins did was to the individual, Brees. It was not addressed to you, me or any other individual. Therefore, any apology is only applicable to those two individuals.

There is no double standard whatsoever.

frydaddy · 06-04-2020, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Nope. There is a big difference you are completely missing. Brees said something that offended many people across a wide spectrum. He offered a public apology to the general public for that statement and a private apology to others. What you are claiming Jenkins did was to the individual, Brees. It was not addressed to you, me or any other individual. Therefore, any apology is only applicable to those two individuals.

There is no double standard whatsoever.

What Brees said was very carefully worded, polite and not at all what Jenkins made it out to be. I have every right to demand he apologize for the attempted public assassination of a good man's character through the weaponization of social media. His behavior was uncalled for and inexcusable. I don't care if Drew offended one person or a hundred ****ing million people. He is as entitled to his opinion as these *******s are. And they CHOSE TO BE OFFENDED. So if they can make demands then so the **** can I. But by all means keep preaching Mr. Contrarian. We all know you live to disagree no matter the subject. Just gotta come huffing in here like you're everyone's grandpa here to get in his daily gripe session.

burningmetal · 06-04-2020, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Nope. There is a big difference you are completely missing. Brees said something that offended many people across a wide spectrum. He offered a public apology to the general public for that statement and a private apology to others. What you are claiming Jenkins did was to the individual, Brees. It was not addressed to you, me or any other individual. Therefore, any apology is only applicable to those two individuals.

There is no double standard whatsoever.

You are a peculiar character. You claim to have been in every industry under the sun. I have no way of knowing the truth to these claims, but it strikes me as questionable. But you also claim to be conservative, while you are sitting there spouting political correctness.

What Drew said was not offensive. And before you say "whatever offends a person is offensive to them" - because I'm sure you will - let me offer a little sanity to counter that BS. There is no such thing as "your truth" or "my truth". There is only THE truth. Truth is not a matter of opinion. You don't get to bend reality to match your feelings. The truth is that the American flag represents America, as well as the millions who have fought for it's freedom. If you have a problem with America, the flag is not your enemy. Be that as it may, people get to have stupid opinions. That's part of being free. But only one ethnicity gets to have an opinion? I don't think so. And that is where these players, the media, and the entire left is WRONG.

You know what else is truth? "systemic racism" is a fake narrative. It does not exist. That is not my opinion, it is backed up by statistics. If Drew has to apologize for what he said (he doesn't) which was not directed at anyone, but rather a position he holds out of respect for the country he loves, then Malcolm Jenkins ABSOLUTELY should apologize to Brees for trying to control his ability to take HIS stand.

It matters not whether Jenkins directed his comments at any of us, or just Brees. It's about calling for consistency. And, by the way, if Jenkins hates Brees for what he said, then that means he hates everyone who disagrees with him. Think about that, before you try to straddle the fence with your PC nonsense.

FinSaint · 06-04-2020, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest.

Well, Jenkins did choose to make it very public in the first place.

06-04-2020, 12:05 PM	#1
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Brees isn't done. You give too little respect for the integrity of players like Demario Davis and Malcolm Jenkins. Davis has already come out praising Brees' leadership in admitting to making a mistake. I have little doubt Jenkins, and the rest of the team, will do the same. This is an opportunity for ALL involved to learn something new. At first I was one of those that didn't get the kneeling action during the anthem, but I have since learned that players that kneel have the right to do just that as Americans and I no longer have an issue with it at all. I feel Brees is learning that more and more Americans are feeling the same way. Good people do and say stupid things every day. Good people also forgive those that do and say stupid things, especially if they can learn from their mistakes. Well until others say something then it's unknown. They were quick to publicly admonish him, why not be just a quick to accept the apology?I hope it gets resolved and I hope he doesn't have to kneel unless he wants to.

06-04-2020, 01:00 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by lynwood Well until others say something then it's unknown. They were quick to publicly admonish him, why not be just a quick to accept the apology?I hope it gets resolved and I hope he doesn't have to kneel unless he wants to. Thomas and Jenkins have both shared in the last hour that they have accepted Brees' apology and are ready to move forward, just as had Davis early. lynwood, neugey, OldMaid and 2 others like this.

06-04-2020, 01:14 PM	#3
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,964 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Thomas and Jenkins have both shared in the last hour that they have accepted Brees' apology and are ready to move forward, just as had Davis early. Jenkins can suck a fat one. He went on a tirade against Drew. He owes Drew an even bigger apology, and it had better be very public. Otherwise he can get ****ed. jnormand, Danno, skymike and 1 others like this.

06-04-2020, 01:51 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by frydaddy Jenkins can suck a fat one. He went on a tirade against Drew. He owes Drew an even bigger apology, and it had better be very public. Otherwise he can get ****ed. It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest.

06-04-2020, 02:11 PM	#5
St. Sherman Rookie Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 19	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest. If only players, fans and media also took this rational attitude before demanding public apologies for Brees sharing his opinion. I guess better late than never.
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06-04-2020, 02:12 PM	#6
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,964 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest. Oh? But it's fine that they demand an apology from him? And it's fine that they demand he agree with them? And it's fine that they took his opinion, which is his business, twisted it and used it to stab him in the back? Your double standard is showing. jnormand, dizzle88, burningmetal and 1 others like this.

06-04-2020, 02:19 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by frydaddy Oh? But it's fine that they demand an apology from him? And it's fine that they demand he agree with them? And it's fine that they took his opinion, which is his business, twisted it and used it to stab him in the back? Your double standard is showing. Nope. There is a big difference you are completely missing. Brees said something that offended many people across a wide spectrum. He offered a public apology to the general public for that statement and a private apology to others. What you are claiming Jenkins did was to the individual, Brees. It was not addressed to you, me or any other individual. Therefore, any apology is only applicable to those two individuals. There is no double standard whatsoever.

06-04-2020, 02:47 PM	#8
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,964 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Nope. There is a big difference you are completely missing. Brees said something that offended many people across a wide spectrum. He offered a public apology to the general public for that statement and a private apology to others. What you are claiming Jenkins did was to the individual, Brees. It was not addressed to you, me or any other individual. Therefore, any apology is only applicable to those two individuals. There is no double standard whatsoever. What Brees said was very carefully worded, polite and not at all what Jenkins made it out to be. I have every right to demand he apologize for the attempted public assassination of a good man's character through the weaponization of social media. His behavior was uncalled for and inexcusable. I don't care if Drew offended one person or a hundred **ing million people. He is as entitled to his opinion as these ***s are. And they CHOSE TO BE OFFENDED. So if they can make demands then so the ** can I. But by all means keep preaching Mr. Contrarian. We all know you live to disagree no matter the subject. Just gotta come huffing in here like you're everyone's grandpa here to get in his daily gripe session.
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06-04-2020, 09:00 PM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Nope. There is a big difference you are completely missing. Brees said something that offended many people across a wide spectrum. He offered a public apology to the general public for that statement and a private apology to others. What you are claiming Jenkins did was to the individual, Brees. It was not addressed to you, me or any other individual. Therefore, any apology is only applicable to those two individuals. There is no double standard whatsoever. You are a peculiar character. You claim to have been in every industry under the sun. I have no way of knowing the truth to these claims, but it strikes me as questionable. But you also claim to be conservative, while you are sitting there spouting political correctness. What Drew said was not offensive. And before you say "whatever offends a person is offensive to them" - because I'm sure you will - let me offer a little sanity to counter that BS. There is no such thing as "your truth" or "my truth". There is only THE truth. Truth is not a matter of opinion. You don't get to bend reality to match your feelings. The truth is that the American flag represents America, as well as the millions who have fought for it's freedom. If you have a problem with America, the flag is not your enemy. Be that as it may, people get to have stupid opinions. That's part of being free. But only one ethnicity gets to have an opinion? I don't think so. And that is where these players, the media, and the entire left is WRONG. You know what else is truth? "systemic racism" is a fake narrative. It does not exist. That is not my opinion, it is backed up by statistics. If Drew has to apologize for what he said (he doesn't) which was not directed at anyone, but rather a position he holds out of respect for the country he loves, then Malcolm Jenkins ABSOLUTELY should apologize to Brees for trying to control his ability to take HIS stand. It matters not whether Jenkins directed his comments at any of us, or just Brees. It's about calling for consistency. And, by the way, if Jenkins hates Brees for what he said, then that means he hates everyone who disagrees with him. Think about that, before you try to straddle the fence with your PC nonsense. jnormand, spkb25, Budsdrinker and 2 others like this.
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06-04-2020, 02:17 PM	#10
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest. Well, Jenkins did choose to make it very public in the first place. jnormand, jeanpierre and frydaddy like this.