Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

RailBoss · 06-08-2020, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

In a few years time, Payton will be saying letting Vonn Bell go was his biggest mistake.

He can never get it right when it comes to Defense.

In a few years time, Payton will be saying letting Beth go was his biggest mistake.

He can never get it right when it comes to Women...

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Do you really think it's all over? It's going to continue in the season if theres a season.

Yes. I absolutely think it is all over as for any issue between Brees and the others. Do I think the protests are over? Absolutely not.

And there is very little likelihood that there will NOT be a season.

I have personally had serious disagreements with others and have calmly worked things out and mended fences. Most all of us have. Today on NFL Radio Bruce Murray and Brady Quinn were talking about this very subject and both agreed that to a man everyone on that Saints roster knows Brees as being a kind and caring individual and both sounded confident that it was not going to be an issue moving forward. That is the last thing that the general media wants because it doesn't sell clicks.

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Kneeling certainly didn't win over hearts and minds then, and it won't do it now, so find another way that doesn't disrespect others' values...

Best I've heard to date was to simply not play, not take the field, do not take that game check and show true sacrifice and solidarity with ALL people who've been on the business end of police brutality...

I was vehemently against the kneeling at first. I now have no issue with it at all. Today I heard a marine with over 30 years of active and reserve service and he said he fought not only for the rights of those that are opposed to that form of protest, but also for the rights of every American to engage in peaceful protest of any form, including kneeling during the anthem. I have seriously considered what my late father, also a veteran of over 30 years, would have to say about the issue. I have zero doubt he would echo the thoughts of that marine. And this isn't unique. I have heard the same from many military personnel.

Beastmode · 06-08-2020, 01:24 PM

Served 20 years. Was a Marine and retired Guard. I have no problem with flag burners, kneeling, KKK, Neo Nazi, BLM, Antifa or any other organization. Just so long as they do not harm anyone physically or financially. I don't like hate groups but if it's not hurting anything other than feelings so what.

What I don't like with these protests is they are blocking streets and impeding essential service like the fire dept from doing their job and EMT. They are breaking the law and should all be arrested.

spkb25 · 06-08-2020, 02:06 PM

Right to protest peacefully and freedom of speech are protections from government only. Not your employer

jeanpierre · 06-08-2020, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I was vehemently against the kneeling at first. I now have no issue with it at all. Today I heard a marine with over 30 years of active and reserve service and he said he fought not only for the rights of those that are opposed to that form of protest, but also for the rights of every American to engage in peaceful protest of any form, including kneeling during the anthem. I have seriously considered what my late father, also a veteran of over 30 years, would have to say about the issue. I have zero doubt he would echo the thoughts of that marine. And this isn't unique. I have heard the same from many military personnel.

Don't care what one or a few marines feel...

My family raised me with certain values, and that includes ultimate respect for the flag and the anthem...

My family has made the ultimate sacrifices at the Altar of Freedom so we can have enjoy liberties, and kneeling when we're to be showing respect for those who gave will never, ever work for me or my family...

You want my family to be more vocal and supportive, find another way...

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Right to protest peacefully and freedom of speech are protections from government only. Not your employer

Their employers are giving them the okay. Carry on.

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Don't care what one or a few marines feel...

My family raised me with certain values, and that includes ultimate respect for the flag and the anthem...

My family has made the ultimate sacrifices at the Altar of Freedom so we can have enjoy liberties, and kneeling when we're to be showing respect for those who gave will never, ever work for me or my family...

You want my family to be more vocal and supportive, find another way...

And that is your right as an American, as well.

SmashMouth · 06-08-2020, 05:00 PM

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AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://youtu.be/zZtQ4kA7QLM

OAN is about as right wing as you can get. It makes FOX News seem mainstream. This isn't news. It is propaganda.

06-08-2020, 10:39 AM	#211
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by dizzle88 In a few years time, Payton will be saying letting Vonn Bell go was his biggest mistake. He can never get it right when it comes to Defense. In a few years time, Payton will be saying letting Beth go was his biggest mistake. He can never get it right when it comes to Women...

06-08-2020, 10:52 AM	#212
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by jnormand Do you really think it's all over? It's going to continue in the season if theres a season. Yes. I absolutely think it is all over as for any issue between Brees and the others. Do I think the protests are over? Absolutely not. And there is very little likelihood that there will NOT be a season. I have personally had serious disagreements with others and have calmly worked things out and mended fences. Most all of us have. Today on NFL Radio Bruce Murray and Brady Quinn were talking about this very subject and both agreed that to a man everyone on that Saints roster knows Brees as being a kind and caring individual and both sounded confident that it was not going to be an issue moving forward. That is the last thing that the general media wants because it doesn't sell clicks.
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06-08-2020, 10:59 AM	#213
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by jeanpierre Kneeling certainly didn't win over hearts and minds then, and it won't do it now, so find another way that doesn't disrespect others' values... Best I've heard to date was to simply not play, not take the field, do not take that game check and show true sacrifice and solidarity with ALL people who've been on the business end of police brutality... I was vehemently against the kneeling at first. I now have no issue with it at all. Today I heard a marine with over 30 years of active and reserve service and he said he fought not only for the rights of those that are opposed to that form of protest, but also for the rights of every American to engage in peaceful protest of any form, including kneeling during the anthem. I have seriously considered what my late father, also a veteran of over 30 years, would have to say about the issue. I have zero doubt he would echo the thoughts of that marine. And this isn't unique. I have heard the same from many military personnel. The Dude likes this.
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06-08-2020, 01:24 PM	#214
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Served 20 years. Was a Marine and retired Guard. I have no problem with flag burners, kneeling, KKK, Neo Nazi, BLM, Antifa or any other organization. Just so long as they do not harm anyone physically or financially. I don't like hate groups but if it's not hurting anything other than feelings so what. What I don't like with these protests is they are blocking streets and impeding essential service like the fire dept from doing their job and EMT. They are breaking the law and should all be arrested. jnormand, neugey, AsylumGuido and 2 others like this.
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06-08-2020, 02:06 PM	#215
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Right to protest peacefully and freedom of speech are protections from government only. Not your employer Danno, skymike and Beastmode like this.

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06-08-2020, 02:16 PM	#216
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I was vehemently against the kneeling at first. I now have no issue with it at all. Today I heard a marine with over 30 years of active and reserve service and he said he fought not only for the rights of those that are opposed to that form of protest, but also for the rights of every American to engage in peaceful protest of any form, including kneeling during the anthem. I have seriously considered what my late father, also a veteran of over 30 years, would have to say about the issue. I have zero doubt he would echo the thoughts of that marine. And this isn't unique. I have heard the same from many military personnel. Don't care what one or a few marines feel... My family raised me with certain values, and that includes ultimate respect for the flag and the anthem... My family has made the ultimate sacrifices at the Altar of Freedom so we can have enjoy liberties, and kneeling when we're to be showing respect for those who gave will never, ever work for me or my family... You want my family to be more vocal and supportive, find another way... jnormand, Budsdrinker and Rugby Saint II like this.

06-08-2020, 02:38 PM	#217
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by spkb25 Right to protest peacefully and freedom of speech are protections from government only. Not your employer Their employers are giving them the okay. Carry on.

06-08-2020, 02:40 PM	#218
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by jeanpierre Don't care what one or a few marines feel... My family raised me with certain values, and that includes ultimate respect for the flag and the anthem... My family has made the ultimate sacrifices at the Altar of Freedom so we can have enjoy liberties, and kneeling when we're to be showing respect for those who gave will never, ever work for me or my family... You want my family to be more vocal and supportive, find another way... And that is your right as an American, as well.

06-08-2020, 05:07 PM	#220
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://youtu.be/zZtQ4kA7QLM OAN is about as right wing as you can get. It makes FOX News seem mainstream. This isn't news. It is propaganda. Beastmode likes this.