NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments

AsylumGuido · 06-11-2020, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Your attempt and logic to make this attempt personal for me is about as productive as two monkeys f*cking a basketball...

It will be all too evident that there's a problem in the presumptive, coming season...

Your choice to have blind faith that all is right is just that your choice; human experience and condition dictates that this is not over and all parties will have more strain on them to be successful...

Nonetheless, for a team that claims to feed off of its fans, it'll be hard to draw on that strength when players choose divisive ways on social media to resolve differences...

Especially when those issues alienate most fans as the numbers bear'd that out before and will do so again...

There's where you are missing the point. The players did not choose to resolve differences on social media. Their difference were simply exposed on social media. Those differences were resolved in private. I expect that you are believing the players are lying when they have all said those differences have, indeed, been resolved. If they are telling the truth, and why wouldn't they, why would there be a problem in the coming season? That makes no sense. Quite the contrary, to me it sounds like they are on the same page which should build inner strength, instead.

The Saints, having addressed these issues already, should be a step ahead of the rest of the league which face all the same burdens including less than exuberant fans. Especially since the stands may be only 25% filled.

Budsdrinker · 06-11-2020, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There's where you are missing the point. The players did not choose to resolve differences on social media. Their difference were simply exposed on social media. Those differences were resolved in private. I expect that you are believing the players are lying when they have all said those differences have, indeed, been resolved. If they are telling the truth, and why wouldn't they, why would there be a problem in the coming season? That makes no sense. Quite the contrary, to me it sounds like they are on the same page which should build inner strength, instead.

The Saints, having addressed these issues already, should be a step ahead of the rest of the league which face all the same burdens including less than exuberant fans. Especially since the stands may be only 25% filled.

Here's my problem with it. Their differences were exposed on social media which ignited a fire in public but their so called resolution was done in private which does not put out the public fire. If you start the fire in public, put the damn thing out in public.

AsylumGuido · 06-11-2020, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Here's my problem with it. Their differences were exposed on social media which ignited a fire in public but their so called resolution was done in private which does not put out the public fire. If you start the fire in public, put the damn thing out in public.

I'm not sure they can do much more in public than announce that they have talked everything through and there is no longer any issue. They have done this. The problem is that the media doesn't get as many "clicks" sharing the reconciliation as they do the initial disagreement.

The fire is out as far as the involved parties are concerned, but the media would rather try to keep it going. It is just like what Shaq told them in their team meeting ...

"Don't let the media divide you. Don't let social media divide you."

jeanpierre · 06-11-2020, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There's where you are missing the point. The players did not choose to resolve differences on social media. Their difference were simply exposed on social media. Those differences were resolved in private. I expect that you are believing the players are lying when they have all said those differences have, indeed, been resolved. If they are telling the truth, and why wouldn't they, why would there be a problem in the coming season? That makes no sense. Quite the contrary, to me it sounds like they are on the same page which should build inner strength, instead.

The Saints, having addressed these issues already, should be a step ahead of the rest of the league which face all the same burdens including less than exuberant fans. Especially since the stands may be only 25% filled.

That's where you're in denial my friend, because that's exactly what happened...

TheOak · 06-11-2020, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Here's my problem with it. Their differences were exposed on social media which ignited a fire in public but their so called resolution was done in private which does not put out the public fire. If you start the fire in public, put the damn thing out in public.

I understand the deep desire for transparency but the issue that some people cant handle the truth presents the potential to make something is outside of logical proportion even bigger.

When a topic is being tried in the court of public opinion and it gets too far gone, the first thing the negotiations generally address is getting things back under control.

Example: Trying to calm your significant other down in an argument by letting them see what you are thinking will not end well or bring you closer to peace.

AsylumGuido · 06-11-2020, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

That's where you're in denial my friend, because that's exactly what happened...

No. Not at all. It was resolved in private. It was brought to light in public. You can't resolve anything over social media.

AsylumGuido · 06-11-2020, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I understand the deep desire for transparency but the issue that some people cant handle the truth presents the potential to make something is outside of logical proportion even bigger.

When a topic is being tried in the court of public opinion and it gets too far gone, the first thing the negotiations generally address is getting things back under control.

Example: Trying to calm your significant other down in an argument by letting them see what you are thinking will not end well or bring you closer to peace.

Exactly. Why the need to actually see the players hug and kiss after watching their in depth conversation which resulted in an understanding? Is that what people are wanting? Brees and every teammate involved has stated that everything is cool now after their private conversations. Why isn't that enough? I don't get it. What more do they need to do? And why should they care what others think anyway as long as they know they are good?

K Major · 06-11-2020, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No. Not at all. It was resolved in private. It was brought to light in public. You can't resolve anything over social media.

Again, "social media" can be cancerous at times.

AsylumGuido · 06-11-2020, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Again, "social media" can be cancerous at times.

Absolutely. Therefore the value in speaking directly with the other individual. That's how things are successfully resolved.

jeanpierre · 06-11-2020, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No. Not at all. It was resolved in private. It was brought to light in public. You can't resolve anything over social media.

Again, it blew up in public...

06-11-2020, 07:26 AM	#31
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments Originally Posted by jeanpierre Your attempt and logic to make this attempt personal for me is about as productive as two monkeys fcking a basketball... It will be all too evident that there's a problem in the presumptive, coming season... Your choice to have blind faith that all is right is just that your choice; human experience and condition dictates that this is not over and all parties will have more strain on them to be successful... Nonetheless, for a team that claims to feed off of its fans, it'll be hard to draw on that strength when players choose divisive ways on social media to resolve differences...* Especially when those issues alienate most fans as the numbers bear'd that out before and will do so again... There's where you are missing the point. The players did not choose to resolve differences on social media. Their difference were simply exposed on social media. Those differences were resolved in private. I expect that you are believing the players are lying when they have all said those differences have, indeed, been resolved. If they are telling the truth, and why wouldn't they, why would there be a problem in the coming season? That makes no sense. Quite the contrary, to me it sounds like they are on the same page which should build inner strength, instead. The Saints, having addressed these issues already, should be a step ahead of the rest of the league which face all the same burdens including less than exuberant fans. Especially since the stands may be only 25% filled.
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06-11-2020, 07:33 AM	#32
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There's where you are missing the point. The players did not choose to resolve differences on social media. Their difference were simply exposed on social media. Those differences were resolved in private. I expect that you are believing the players are lying when they have all said those differences have, indeed, been resolved. If they are telling the truth, and why wouldn't they, why would there be a problem in the coming season? That makes no sense. Quite the contrary, to me it sounds like they are on the same page which should build inner strength, instead. The Saints, having addressed these issues already, should be a step ahead of the rest of the league which face all the same burdens including less than exuberant fans. Especially since the stands may be only 25% filled. Here's my problem with it. Their differences were exposed on social media which ignited a fire in public but their so called resolution was done in private which does not put out the public fire. If you start the fire in public, put the damn thing out in public. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

06-11-2020, 07:39 AM	#33
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Here's my problem with it. Their differences were exposed on social media which ignited a fire in public but their so called resolution was done in private which does not put out the public fire. If you start the fire in public, put the damn thing out in public. I'm not sure they can do much more in public than announce that they have talked everything through and there is no longer any issue. They have done this. The problem is that the media doesn't get as many "clicks" sharing the reconciliation as they do the initial disagreement. The fire is out as far as the involved parties are concerned, but the media would rather try to keep it going. It is just like what Shaq told them in their team meeting ... "Don't let the media divide you. Don't let social media divide you." Rugby Saint II likes this.

06-11-2020, 08:02 AM	#34
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There's where you are missing the point. The players did not choose to resolve differences on social media. Their difference were simply exposed on social media. Those differences were resolved in private. I expect that you are believing the players are lying when they have all said those differences have, indeed, been resolved. If they are telling the truth, and why wouldn't they, why would there be a problem in the coming season? That makes no sense. Quite the contrary, to me it sounds like they are on the same page which should build inner strength, instead. The Saints, having addressed these issues already, should be a step ahead of the rest of the league which face all the same burdens including less than exuberant fans. Especially since the stands may be only 25% filled. That's where you're in denial my friend, because that's exactly what happened...

06-11-2020, 08:38 AM	#35
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Here's my problem with it. Their differences were exposed on social media which ignited a fire in public but their so called resolution was done in private which does not put out the public fire. If you start the fire in public, put the damn thing out in public. I understand the deep desire for transparency but the issue that some people cant handle the truth presents the potential to make something is outside of logical proportion even bigger. When a topic is being tried in the court of public opinion and it gets too far gone, the first thing the negotiations generally address is getting things back under control. Example: Trying to calm your significant other down in an argument by letting them see what you are thinking will not end well or bring you closer to peace.

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06-11-2020, 11:18 AM	#36
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments Originally Posted by jeanpierre That's where you're in denial my friend, because that's exactly what happened... No. Not at all. It was resolved in private. It was brought to light in public. You can't resolve anything over social media. K Major likes this.

06-11-2020, 11:25 AM	#37
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments Originally Posted by TheOak I understand the deep desire for transparency but the issue that some people cant handle the truth presents the potential to make something is outside of logical proportion even bigger. When a topic is being tried in the court of public opinion and it gets too far gone, the first thing the negotiations generally address is getting things back under control. Example: Trying to calm your significant other down in an argument by letting them see what you are thinking will not end well or bring you closer to peace. Exactly. Why the need to actually see the players hug and kiss after watching their in depth conversation which resulted in an understanding? Is that what people are wanting? Brees and every teammate involved has stated that everything is cool now after their private conversations. Why isn't that enough? I don't get it. What more do they need to do? And why should they care what others think anyway as long as they know they are good?

06-11-2020, 11:40 AM	#38
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,045 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. Not at all. It was resolved in private. It was brought to light in public. You can't resolve anything over social media. Again, "social media" can be cancerous at times. Rugby Saint II likes this.

06-11-2020, 12:08 PM	#39
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments Originally Posted by K Major Again, "social media" can be cancerous at times. Absolutely. Therefore the value in speaking directly with the other individual. That's how things are successfully resolved.

06-11-2020, 02:10 PM	#40
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. Not at all. It was resolved in private. It was brought to light in public. You can't resolve anything over social media. Again, it blew up in public... dizzle88 likes this.