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jeanpierre 06-09-2020 11:07 AM

NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments
 

AsylumGuido 06-09-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 890416)

This is exactly what Shaq O'Neil was talking about when he said don't let the media try to stir stuff up. This is creating that "us against the media" mentality that drove the Patriots to a championship. The players have already made peace with each other and now they'll begin circling the wagons against the media.

The site that posted this "article", bigleaguepolitics.com, is another one of those hate mongering ultra right wing sites. I wouldn't past them to have been involved in some of those "death threats" given their history.

Rugby Saint II 06-09-2020 02:42 PM

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The people writing those letters need to be investigated by the FBI and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Of course this won't happen because the white people aren't allowed to enforce the law against black people. We are supposed to give black people a pass.

The problem isn't just the action itself by Drew. It's the thoughtless reactions of ignorant people to a situation where their only recourse is violence.

Again, I'm not bein a racist but this feels like reverse discrimination to me.

AsylumGuido 06-09-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 890433)
The people writing those letters need to be investigated by the FBI and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Of course this won't happen because the white people aren't allowed to enforce the law against black people. We are supposed to give black people a pass.

The problem isn't just the action itself by Drew. It's the thoughtless reactions of ignorant people to a situation where their only recourse is violence.

Again, I'm not bein a racist but this feels like reverse discrimination to me.

What makes you believe those letters were written by black people?

hitta 06-09-2020 03:24 PM

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I don't think what Drew said was even that bad. I just think his timing was especially horrible because people are being incredibly irrational right now. Then again, I think the world has been broken as **** for a while and we're headed for a complete societal collapse. Too much debt, too much money printing, artificially low interest rates, too much fed insanity in general, too much insanity on different social justice issues, too much right wing bravado acting like every single thing Trump does gold, too much left wing stupidity, acting like everything Trump does is satanic. It began before Trump, it'll probably become worse after Trump. Just the polarization in general, I think we are in horrible shape. Then you throw the coronavirus on top of it and it's like nuking a leper colony

RailBoss 06-09-2020 09:08 PM

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Those tracking the death threats might want to start in Atlanta.
For some reason some of the Dirty Bird Fans don't like the Saints. (ya think)
I'm guessing they are loving all this turmoil and would like nothing more than to fan the flames.

jeanpierre 06-10-2020 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890438)
What makes you believe those letters were written by black people?

All the more reason for it to be investigated, and reported...

jeanpierre 06-10-2020 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 890464)
Those tracking the death threats might want to start in Atlanta.
For some reason some of the Dirty Bird Fans don't like the Saints. (ya think)
I'm guessing they are loving all this turmoil and would like nothing more than to fan the flames.

Motive? Possibly. See previous post.

jeanpierre 06-10-2020 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890419)
This is exactly what Shaq O'Neil was talking about when he said don't let the media try to stir stuff up. This is creating that "us against the media" mentality that drove the Patriots to a championship. The players have already made peace with each other and now they'll begin circling the wagons against the media.

The site that posted this "article", bigleaguepolitics.com, is another one of those hate mongering ultra right wing sites. I wouldn't past them to have been involved in some of those "death threats" given their history.

Curious that sites are either right wing or #MSM; most use Wikipedia as a source, but the citations used on Wikipedia are often the #MSM that stands to lose control of the narrative, and financial considerations...

And most of those panels that brand news organizations as right wing are chock-stocked with career leftists in the Academy, #MSM or both; and are financed by opportunists using the Left...

And why shouldn't the Truth about what may have influenced, pressured Brees into reversing his public stance not be reported?

AsylumGuido 06-10-2020 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 890475)
Curious that sites are either right wing or #MSM; most use Wikipedia as a source, but the citations used on Wikipedia are often the #MSM that stands to lose control of the narrative, and financial considerations...

And most of those panels that brand news organizations as right wing are chock-stocked with career leftists in the Academy, #MSM or both; and are financed by opportunists using the Left...

And why shouldn't the Truth about what may have influenced, pressured Brees into reversing his public stance not be reported?

Simply read the articles on the site, JP. It takes no panel to label it ultra right wing. Their prose shouts it out.

jeanpierre 06-10-2020 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890479)
Simply read the articles on the site, JP. It takes no panel to label it ultra right wing. Their prose shouts it out.

So you'd dismissed the reporting of the Truth? That Brees received death threats?

AsylumGuido 06-10-2020 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 890480)
So you'd dismissed the reporting of the Truth? That Brees received death threats?

No. I dismiss the twist that sites like that would put on it. Such as implying THAT was the reason for the apology while completely ignoring that extended conversations with teammates and others would have far, far more impact than someone from the twitterverse in their mother's basement sending out baseless threats.

Brees is not the type of person to let idle "threats" such as that affect his decision making. As a celebrity I have little doubt he has received those type of comments before. Sharing the fact that they received some was simply highlighting the importance of the issue. I would be shocked if he didn't receive more after coming to the conclusion that he didn't understand the purpose of the protest.

jeanpierre 06-10-2020 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890484)
No. I dismiss the twist that sites like that would put on it. Such as implying THAT was the reason for the apology while completely ignoring that extended conversations with teammates and others would have far, far more impact than someone from the twitterverse in their mother's basement sending out baseless threats.

Brees is not the type of person to let idle "threats" such as that affect his decision making. As a celebrity I have little doubt he has received those type of comments before. Sharing the fact that they received some was simply highlighting the importance of the issue. I would be shocked if he didn't receive more after coming to the conclusion that he didn't understand the purpose of the protest.

AG, twist? Death Threat is what it is. Irregardless of the source. And I'd be asking why #BigCorporate #MSM is not reporting this and what their motives are for diminishing, neglecting coverage on this.

This is freaking serious, there shouldn't be any casual dismissal of this, no matter Brees' courage; and I'd argue that it has had an effect on him and his outlook...

And if anything should be condemned with extreme prejudice, it's death threats because someone doesn't post or say exactly what the cancel culture wants that person to say...

That kind of intimidation needs to be put down with the harshest allowable punitive action...

AsylumGuido 06-10-2020 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 890490)
AG, twist? Death Threat is what it is. Irregardless of the source. And I'd be asking why #BigCorporate #MSM is not reporting this and what their motives are for diminishing, neglecting coverage on this.

This is freaking serious, there shouldn't be any casual dismissal of this, no matter Brees' courage; and I'd argue that it has had an effect on him and his outlook...

And if anything should be condemned with extreme prejudice, it's death threats because someone doesn't post or say exactly what the cancel culture wants that person to say...

That kind of intimidation needs to be put down with the harshest allowable punitive action...

Death threats are a way of public life. The seriousness can be measured. If the Brees' felt in any true danger I am sure it would have been reported to the authorities. In my years with the media I have known many an editor who has received the same empty threats from morons out there on many occasions. "I hope you just die!!" and "I am going to kill you so be prepared" are both considered death threats, yet one is far less intimidating.

I myself have received threats here in this very forum and laughed them off. But, yes, honestly directed death threats should be dealt with to the extreme. But if you truly believe he has never received any form of death threat in today's social media environment you are naive ... and I know you are not naive, my friend.

And, no, I truly feel anything some anonymous person posts on Twitter has far less impact on one's decisions than does serious personal conversations with teammates. Can you honestly disagree with that, JP?

Oh, and #BigCorporate #MSM are mostly likely not reporting on it because it was no more than an off hand mention by Brittney.

By the way, who is #BigCorporate #MSM? Pleading ignorance here.

Rugby Saint II 06-10-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890438)
What makes you believe those letters were written by black people?

Let's call it a hunch. The videos I've seen where the mob was that angry were all by black people then looting. I'm not saying it's not possible that it is white men. It could very well be.

I've always been emotionally upset because of the blight of the black man since I was taught that as a child. Not everyone else feels that way. Too bad.

I'm lucky that my parents told me that everyone is created equal and not to pass judgement because of skin color. I just wish that could be reciprocated is all. :peace:

AsylumGuido 06-10-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 890493)
Let's call it a hunch. The videos I've seen where the mob was that angry were all by black people then looting. I'm not saying it's not possible that it is white men. It could very well be. I've always been emotionally upset because of the blight of the black man since I was a child. Not everyone else feels that way. Too bad.

I'm lucky that my parents told me that everyone is created equal and not to pass judgement because of skin color. I just wish that could be reciprocated is all. :peace:

I mentioned "letters" because someone did earlier in the thread. It most certainly wasn't via letter because it takes more than one day to receive one these days. It was most likely via Twitter. And you need to check out more videos or on other sources. There were quite a number of whites right there in the middle of all the looting and burning. I know that in our local protests the breakdown was almost 50-50 black and white. I also read recently that online death threats are far more common from white individuals than blacks. There is a cultural significance to that. I'll try to find the source, but it was in passing a couple of days ago. Can't remember where. This type of threat seems par for the course from Antifa, as well. If it was truly serious. Most likely Dwayne from his mom's basement.

Edit: Don't count out white women, either.

jeanpierre 06-10-2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890492)
Death threats are a way of public life. The seriousness can be measured. If the Brees' felt in any true danger I am sure it would have been reported to the authorities. In my years with the media I have known many an editor who has received the same empty threats from morons out there on many occasions. "I hope you just die!!" and "I am going to kill you so be prepared" are both considered death threats, yet one is far less intimidating.

I myself have received threats here in this very forum and laughed them off. But, yes, honestly directed death threats should be dealt with to the extreme. But if you truly believe he has never received any form of death threat in today's social media environment you are naive ... and I know you are not naive, my friend.

And, no, I truly feel anything some anonymous person posts on Twitter has far less impact on one's decisions than does serious personal conversations with teammates. Can you honestly disagree with that, JP?

Oh, and #BigCorporate #MSM are mostly likely not reporting on it because it was no more than an off hand mention by Brittney.

By the way, who is #BigCorporate #MSM? Pleading ignorance here.

Well, this post is blatantly obvious that you will gloss over anything that could negatively impact this team...

That you could idly dismiss death threats "as a way of life" so long as we keep the band together absolutely baffles me...

There is no way a civilized society can accept death threats as a way of life...

And say what you want, this team has a leadership, maturity problem that these some of these guys would lead a cancel culture attack on social media against Brees, the franchise leader since 2006...

With regards to the latter, if you can't look objectively review, discover obvious bias of #MSM (Main Stream Media), then I'm not going to be able to explain it in a blurb on B&G...

AsylumGuido 06-10-2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 890509)
Well, this post is blatantly obvious that you will gloss over anything that could negatively impact this team...

That you could idly dismiss death threats "as a way of life" so long as we keep the band together absolutely baffles me...

There is no way a civilized society can accept death threats as a way of life...

And say what you want, this team has a leadership, maturity problem that these some of these guys would lead a cancel culture attack on social media against Brees, the franchise leader since 2006...

With regards to the latter, if you can't look objectively review, discover obvious bias of #MSM (Main Stream Media), then I'm not going to be able to explain it in a blurb on B&G...

Perhaps you are right. It may be beyond remorse. I would be curious if any of the actual parties involved are as bent out of shape as those outside of the situation. I understand your anger. But you need to wait and understand the actual human interaction between these teammates. You are projecting your anger. As I mentioned in another thread along these lines. Have you ever said something in anger which you regretted? These teammates, family members to a degree had a blow up. I have had them. I am going through one right now concerning something personal which I have shared with you alone on this forum. It can happen and it can be healed.

As for the "death threats", I would be interested in exactly what Brittney was referring. If indeed threatening then bad. But they had nothing to do with the personal relationship that he has with his teammates.

I say chill, my friend. It is a time to step back and reflect. Take a deep breath or fifty.

AsylumGuido 06-10-2020 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 890509)


With regards to the latter, if you can't look objectively review, discover obvious bias of #MSM (Main Stream Media), then I'm not going to be able to explain it in a blurb on B&G...

Okay, got the rest. Yes, MSM. Been there, done that. I know for sure if there were materially significant threats on the lives of Drew Brees and his family that the authorities AND the MSM would be all over it. Talk about clickbait! Woohoo! We're in the money!

jeanpierre 06-10-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890512)
Okay, got the rest. Yes, MSM. Been there, done that. I know for sure if there were materially significant threats on the lives of Drew Brees and his family that the authorities AND the MSM would be all over it. Talk about clickbait! Woohoo! We're in the money!

Wow, you really think so? You think MSM reports all the news? Now that's ostrich in the sand level naivety...

Do these sources check your credibilty box?

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...k15cb0yk2ae5lh

https://sports.yahoo.com/brees-recei...0887--nfl.html


jeanpierre 06-10-2020 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890511)
Perhaps you are right. It may be beyond remorse. I would be curious if any of the actual parties involved are as bent out of shape as those outside of the situation. I understand your anger. But you need to wait and understand the actual human interaction between these teammates. You are projecting your anger. As I mentioned in another thread along these lines. Have you ever said something in anger which you regretted? These teammates, family members to a degree had a blow up. I have had them. I am going through one right now concerning something personal which I have shared with you alone on this forum. It can happen and it can be healed.

As for the "death threats", I would be interested in exactly what Brittney was referring. If indeed threatening then bad. But they had nothing to do with the personal relationship that he has with his teammates.

I say chill, my friend. It is a time to step back and reflect. Take a deep breath or fifty.

Anger? More like Disgust. Disgust with Cancel Culture. Disgust with low standards we now accept as normal behavior, i.e., a laissez-faire attitude toward death threats as a way of life...

The Death Threats, The Cancel Culture, The Political Correct Naratives by those who presume their values are greater than others should be denounced as harshly as police brutality as they are what has brought us to this point...

AsylumGuido 06-10-2020 05:42 PM

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Okay, look at it this way, JP. You have many employees, no? You have a day when you need everyone there. At the last minute one vital asks to be off for a distant cousin's birthday and you say no. Some of his coworkers are saying you are a hard-ass about it. Now, you have already discussed it with Tom and he says it is cool and he understands as do his coworkers. In the meantime, loopy Aunt Betty goes off her meds and the next day you get some weird death threat via twitter from who the hell knows who saying because Tom can't be off that they are going to take you out.

Is that the fault of those that you know, or old looney assed Betty?

Get the analogy?

Any death threat is bad, but you cannot blame it on anybody but the lunatic making the threat. If it was indeed real, it surely wasn't on Jenkins, or Thomas or any other teammate.

Understand?

jeanpierre 06-10-2020 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890515)
Okay, look at it this way, JP. You have many employees, no? You have a day when you need everyone there. At the last minute one vital asks to be off for a distant cousin's birthday and you say no. Some of his coworkers are saying you are a hard-ass about it. Now, you have already discussed it with Tom and he says it is cool and he understands as do his coworkers. In the meantime, loopy Aunt Betty goes off her meds and the next day you get some weird death threat via twitter from who the hell knows who saying because Tom can't be off that they are going to take you out.

Is that the fault of those that you know, or old looney assed Betty?

Get the analogy?

Any death threat is bad, but you cannot blame it on anybody but the lunatic making the threat. If it was indeed real, it surely wasn't on Jenkins, or Thomas or any other teammate.

Understand?

You're rationalizing losing our civility is an acceptable cost to winning another Superbowl - my fandom is not that blind...

AsylumGuido 06-10-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 890514)
Anger? More like Disgust. Disgust with Cancel Culture. Disgust with low standards we now accept as normal behavior, i.e., a laissez-faire attitude toward death threats as a way of life...

The Death Threats, The Cancel Culture, The Political Correct Naratives by those who presume their values are greater than others should be denounced as harshly as police brutality as they are what has brought us to this point...

I agree. Totally. But that isn't the fault of teammates who have come together like adults and come to a meeting of the minds.

Direct your anger toward those at fault. Not to those who are hoping to make things better.

AsylumGuido 06-10-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 890516)
You're rationalizing losing our civility is an acceptable cost to winning another Superbowl - my fandom is not that blind...

This isn't driven by one or two players who are now in sync with each other. The loss of civility is far beyond that tiny scope.

AsylumGuido 06-10-2020 05:54 PM

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Malcolm Jenkins isn't evil. Michael Thomas isn't evil. They are both Christian humans wanting the best for their follow mankind.

And, yes, I want another Superbowl. As does every player on our team.

jeanpierre 06-10-2020 05:59 PM

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The aforementioned players' behavior of dragging their differences out in the open in a cancel culture attack is a huge problem, no matter how you spin it and should be equally condemned...

The Dude 06-10-2020 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890519)
Malcolm Jenkins isn't evil. Michael Thomas isn't evil. They are both Christian humans wanting the best for their follow mankind.

And, yes, I want another Superbowl. As does every player on our team.

So Christians can’t be Evil? Do you know for sure Jenkins and Thomas arent evil? You aren’t there behind closed doors in the meeting rooms or at their homes....

AsylumGuido 06-10-2020 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 890520)
The aforementioned players' behavior of dragging their differences out in the open in a cancel culture attack is a huge problem, no matter how you spin it and should be equally condemned...

A problem for you personally, I can see. To myself, and most likely most others, is just that, a problem between them that has been since resolved.

But, wait, what is that "cancel culture attack"? I seriously don't understand that description. :confused:

As for dragging differences out in the open ... welcome to the modern world of social media. Everyone drags everything these days out into the open. LOL

jeanpierre 06-10-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890525)
A problem for you personally, I can see. To myself, and most likely most others, is just that, a problem between them that has been since resolved.

But, wait, what is that "cancel culture attack"? I seriously don't understand that description. :confused:

As for dragging differences out in the open ... welcome to the modern world of social media. Everyone drags everything these days out into the open. LOL

Your attempt and logic to make this attempt personal for me is about as productive as two monkeys f*cking a basketball...

It will be all too evident that there's a problem in the presumptive, coming season...

Your choice to have blind faith that all is right is just that your choice; human experience and condition dictates that this is not over and all parties will have more strain on them to be successful...

Nonetheless, for a team that claims to feed off of its fans, it'll be hard to draw on that strength when players choose divisive ways on social media to resolve differences...

Especially when those issues alienate most fans as the numbers bear'd that out before and will do so again...

AsylumGuido 06-11-2020 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 890535)
Your attempt and logic to make this attempt personal for me is about as productive as two monkeys f*cking a basketball...

It will be all too evident that there's a problem in the presumptive, coming season...

Your choice to have blind faith that all is right is just that your choice; human experience and condition dictates that this is not over and all parties will have more strain on them to be successful...

Nonetheless, for a team that claims to feed off of its fans, it'll be hard to draw on that strength when players choose divisive ways on social media to resolve differences...

Especially when those issues alienate most fans as the numbers bear'd that out before and will do so again...

There's where you are missing the point. The players did not choose to resolve differences on social media. Their difference were simply exposed on social media. Those differences were resolved in private. I expect that you are believing the players are lying when they have all said those differences have, indeed, been resolved. If they are telling the truth, and why wouldn't they, why would there be a problem in the coming season? That makes no sense. Quite the contrary, to me it sounds like they are on the same page which should build inner strength, instead.

The Saints, having addressed these issues already, should be a step ahead of the rest of the league which face all the same burdens including less than exuberant fans. Especially since the stands may be only 25% filled.

Budsdrinker 06-11-2020 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890550)
There's where you are missing the point. The players did not choose to resolve differences on social media. Their difference were simply exposed on social media. Those differences were resolved in private. I expect that you are believing the players are lying when they have all said those differences have, indeed, been resolved. If they are telling the truth, and why wouldn't they, why would there be a problem in the coming season? That makes no sense. Quite the contrary, to me it sounds like they are on the same page which should build inner strength, instead.

The Saints, having addressed these issues already, should be a step ahead of the rest of the league which face all the same burdens including less than exuberant fans. Especially since the stands may be only 25% filled.

Here's my problem with it. Their differences were exposed on social media which ignited a fire in public but their so called resolution was done in private which does not put out the public fire. If you start the fire in public, put the damn thing out in public.

AsylumGuido 06-11-2020 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 890551)
Here's my problem with it. Their differences were exposed on social media which ignited a fire in public but their so called resolution was done in private which does not put out the public fire. If you start the fire in public, put the damn thing out in public.

I'm not sure they can do much more in public than announce that they have talked everything through and there is no longer any issue. They have done this. The problem is that the media doesn't get as many "clicks" sharing the reconciliation as they do the initial disagreement.

The fire is out as far as the involved parties are concerned, but the media would rather try to keep it going. It is just like what Shaq told them in their team meeting ...

"Don't let the media divide you. Don't let social media divide you."

jeanpierre 06-11-2020 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890550)
There's where you are missing the point. The players did not choose to resolve differences on social media. Their difference were simply exposed on social media. Those differences were resolved in private. I expect that you are believing the players are lying when they have all said those differences have, indeed, been resolved. If they are telling the truth, and why wouldn't they, why would there be a problem in the coming season? That makes no sense. Quite the contrary, to me it sounds like they are on the same page which should build inner strength, instead.

The Saints, having addressed these issues already, should be a step ahead of the rest of the league which face all the same burdens including less than exuberant fans. Especially since the stands may be only 25% filled.

That's where you're in denial my friend, because that's exactly what happened...

TheOak 06-11-2020 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 890551)
Here's my problem with it. Their differences were exposed on social media which ignited a fire in public but their so called resolution was done in private which does not put out the public fire. If you start the fire in public, put the damn thing out in public.

I understand the deep desire for transparency but the issue that some people cant handle the truth presents the potential to make something is outside of logical proportion even bigger.

When a topic is being tried in the court of public opinion and it gets too far gone, the first thing the negotiations generally address is getting things back under control.

Example: Trying to calm your significant other down in an argument by letting them see what you are thinking will not end well or bring you closer to peace.

AsylumGuido 06-11-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 890553)
That's where you're in denial my friend, because that's exactly what happened...

No. Not at all. It was resolved in private. It was brought to light in public. You can't resolve anything over social media.

AsylumGuido 06-11-2020 11:25 AM

Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 890556)
I understand the deep desire for transparency but the issue that some people cant handle the truth presents the potential to make something is outside of logical proportion even bigger.

When a topic is being tried in the court of public opinion and it gets too far gone, the first thing the negotiations generally address is getting things back under control.

Example: Trying to calm your significant other down in an argument by letting them see what you are thinking will not end well or bring you closer to peace.

Exactly. Why the need to actually see the players hug and kiss after watching their in depth conversation which resulted in an understanding? Is that what people are wanting? Brees and every teammate involved has stated that everything is cool now after their private conversations. Why isn't that enough? I don't get it. What more do they need to do? And why should they care what others think anyway as long as they know they are good?

K Major 06-11-2020 11:40 AM

Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890569)
No. Not at all. It was resolved in private. It was brought to light in public. You can't resolve anything over social media.

Again, "social media" can be cancerous at times.

AsylumGuido 06-11-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 890572)
Again, "social media" can be cancerous at times.

Absolutely. Therefore the value in speaking directly with the other individual. That's how things are successfully resolved.

jeanpierre 06-11-2020 02:10 PM

Re: NFL QB Drew Brees ‘Received Death Threats’ Before Recanting Pro-America Comments
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890569)
No. Not at all. It was resolved in private. It was brought to light in public. You can't resolve anything over social media.

Again, it blew up in public...


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