Starting to think NFL season not feasible

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2020, 12:20 PM

Also heard A.J. Hawk and Brady Quinn a couple of days ago both saying that quite a few players they have both talked to are saying they are fine with going ahead and contracting the virus right away so it won't stand in the way of the regular season.

This of course wouldn't be the case for players with comorbidities such as asthma and sleep apnea.

Rugby Saint II · 06-20-2020, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They are planning on players (and all other personnel) and their immediate families to stay pretty much in lockdown for the season. Players and all other personnel will be tested daily. And any individual that does test positive is to be isolated, monitored and treated (if needed) until deemed clear and can then return.

There is not going to be any mass quarantining. Rosters and practice squads will be increased to handle temporary loss of individual players.

There is also a good possibility that much of the league will already have had the virus by the beginning of the season and shouldn't be an issue come season. So far all of the reported player cases have been either asymptomatic or extremely mild.

It is still almost three months from the beginning of the season. I have little doubt the season will take place and can't wait.

That sounds like the ideal scenario for me to get to watch my beloved Saints play football this year. The only problem is it is beginning to look like you can catch it several times. Although here's another thought for these athletes.....COVID does damage to healthy lungs......

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2020, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

That sounds like the ideal scenario for me to get to watch my beloved Saints play football this year. The only problem is it is beginning to look like you can catch it several times. Although here's another thought for these athletes.....COVID does damage to healthy lungs......

As far as they know only in severe cases.

ChrisXVI · 06-20-2020, 03:13 PM

hitta · 06-20-2020, 04:21 PM

Antibodies dropping a few weeks after infection does not mean you are open to infection. The immune system doesn't work that way. While there are potential ways that infection could occur, I'd guess that they are rare circumstances. Of course, there may be something unique about the virus that causes our immune system to do something strange or mutations may occur or something... that's possible. For the most part though, there's not really any real evidence that reinfection occurs.

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2020, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

Antibodies dropping a few weeks after infection does not mean you are open to infection. The immune system doesn't work that way. While there are potential ways that infection could occur, I'd guess that they are rare circumstances. Of course, there may be something unique about the virus that causes our immune system to do something strange or mutations may occur or something... that's possible. For the most part though, there's not really any real evidence that reinfection occurs.

Mutations could possibly reinfect, but mutations are likely to be more infectious, but far less invasive. That is the pattern of virus spread. In other words, it is possible to contract a variation but is is most likely it will be far less intrusive or even symptomatic at all.

hitta · 06-20-2020, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Mutations could possibly reinfect, but mutations are likely to be more infectious, but far less invasive. That is the pattern of virus spread. In other words, it is possible to contract a variation but is is most likely it will be far less intrusive or even symptomatic at all.

For a mutation to cause reinfection, it'd have to be one that changed its spike proteins, which is the epitope that the neutralizing antibody attaches too. The virus is not really mutating that rapidly of a pace, much slower than influenza viruses do. Covid-19 is more sophisticated than than influenza, has better error checking mechanisms etc... which ironically make it less likely to mutate. It could happen, but it's very doubtful.

K Major · 06-23-2020, 09:27 AM

I simply don't see how players can avoid the virus once the seasons starts.

More coaches, players and/or a family member will get sick.

K Major · 06-23-2020, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

That sounds like the ideal scenario for me to get to watch my beloved Saints play football this year. The only problem is it is beginning to look like you can catch it several times. Although here's another thought for these athletes.....COVID does damage to healthy lungs......

Yep. Was speaking with my neighbor the other day who happens to be a Doctor (6 feet distance

) this past weekend as I took a walk with my daughter and dog. According to her info, she is more concerned about our youth's health ... long term. Covid lungs could possibly become a serious pulmonary issue. Long term quality of life I'm referring to.

Unlike the common cold or flu, Covid could do more permanent damage to ones pulmonary system. Personally, I don't see how there is a "safe" measure in place to have a full season of football at any level.

Just thought I'd share this since my info came from a health care professional.

Stay safe and protect yourself folks

.

TheOak · 06-23-2020, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I simply don't see how players can avoid the virus once the seasons starts.

More coaches, players and/or a family member will get sick.

Easy, you sequester them. Sounds crazy but I'd gladly allow myself to be sequestered for 4 months for anywhere from $500k-$30MM. Wouldn't you?

Heck, I did it for less than $500 a month for the US ARMY.

06-20-2020, 12:20 PM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Also heard A.J. Hawk and Brady Quinn a couple of days ago both saying that quite a few players they have both talked to are saying they are fine with going ahead and contracting the virus right away so it won't stand in the way of the regular season. This of course wouldn't be the case for players with comorbidities such as asthma and sleep apnea.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They are planning on players (and all other personnel) and their immediate families to stay pretty much in lockdown for the season. Players and all other personnel will be tested daily. And any individual that does test positive is to be isolated, monitored and treated (if needed) until deemed clear and can then return. There is not going to be any mass quarantining. Rosters and practice squads will be increased to handle temporary loss of individual players. There is also a good possibility that much of the league will already have had the virus by the beginning of the season and shouldn't be an issue come season. So far all of the reported player cases have been either asymptomatic or extremely mild. It is still almost three months from the beginning of the season. I have little doubt the season will take place and can't wait. That sounds like the ideal scenario for me to get to watch my beloved Saints play football this year. The only problem is it is beginning to look like you can catch it several times. Although here's another thought for these athletes.....COVID does damage to healthy lungs...... OldMaid and K Major like this.

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hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Antibodies dropping a few weeks after infection does not mean you are open to infection. The immune system doesn't work that way. While there are potential ways that infection could occur, I'd guess that they are rare circumstances. Of course, there may be something unique about the virus that causes our immune system to do something strange or mutations may occur or something... that's possible. For the most part though, there's not really any real evidence that reinfection occurs. AsylumGuido likes this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by hitta Antibodies dropping a few weeks after infection does not mean you are open to infection. The immune system doesn't work that way. While there are potential ways that infection could occur, I'd guess that they are rare circumstances. Of course, there may be something unique about the virus that causes our immune system to do something strange or mutations may occur or something... that's possible. For the most part though, there's not really any real evidence that reinfection occurs. Mutations could possibly reinfect, but mutations are likely to be more infectious, but far less invasive. That is the pattern of virus spread. In other words, it is possible to contract a variation but is is most likely it will be far less intrusive or even symptomatic at all.

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hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Mutations could possibly reinfect, but mutations are likely to be more infectious, but far less invasive. That is the pattern of virus spread. In other words, it is possible to contract a variation but is is most likely it will be far less intrusive or even symptomatic at all. For a mutation to cause reinfection, it'd have to be one that changed its spike proteins, which is the epitope that the neutralizing antibody attaches too. The virus is not really mutating that rapidly of a pace, much slower than influenza viruses do. Covid-19 is more sophisticated than than influenza, has better error checking mechanisms etc... which ironically make it less likely to mutate. It could happen, but it's very doubtful. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II That sounds like the ideal scenario for me to get to watch my beloved Saints play football this year. The only problem is it is beginning to look like you can catch it several times. Although here's another thought for these athletes.....COVID does damage to healthy lungs...... Yep. Was speaking with my neighbor the other day who happens to be a Doctor (6 feet distance ) this past weekend as I took a walk with my daughter and dog. According to her info, she is more concerned about our youth's health ... long term. Covid lungs could possibly become a serious pulmonary issue. Long term quality of life I'm referring to. Unlike the common cold or flu, Covid could do more permanent damage to ones pulmonary system. Personally, I don't see how there is a "safe" measure in place to have a full season of football at any level. Just thought I'd share this since my info came from a health care professional. Stay safe and protect yourself folks . Rugby Saint II likes this.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by K Major I simply don't see how players can avoid the virus once the seasons starts. More coaches, players and/or a family member will get sick. Easy, you sequester them. Sounds crazy but I'd gladly allow myself to be sequestered for 4 months for anywhere from $500k-$30MM. Wouldn't you? Heck, I did it for less than $500 a month for the US ARMY.