Starting to think NFL season not feasible

K Major · 06-23-2020, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Easy, you sequester them. Sounds crazy but I'd gladly allow myself to be sequestered for 4 months for anywhere from $500k-$30MM. Wouldn't you?

Heck, I did it for less than $500 a month for the US ARMY.

So how does a team and/or coach prepare for half of their team having to quarantine at the drop of a hat? Or the older, more susceptible coaches on the staff?

Again, I don't see how the NFL will pull it off in 2020.

AsylumGuido · 06-23-2020, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

So how does a team and/or coach prepare for half of their team having to quarantine at the drop of a hat? Or the older, more susceptible coaches on the staff?

Again, I don't see how the NFL will pull it off in 2020.

From what I am hearing there will be daily testing upon entering the facility. They are saying that there will be rapid testing readily available by then ... especially with pockets as deep as the NFL's. If they are tested positive, they would be isolated immediately and monitored (and treated if necessary) until ready to return. The only way for half the team, and or staff to have it all at one time would for them to get it from outside sources independently at the same time. The exposure for the players should not be from other players, but rather their contacts outside of the facilities and stadium. It is also being said that players will have to agree to sheltering in place and avoiding people outside of their immediate families though the course of the season.

Players are going to get it. There is no doubting that. But, with expanded rosters and practice squads it can be handled. There is far too much money on the line for everyone involved for there NOT to be a season. I also heard today that several hundred pro and college players have tested positive already in preliminary testing. I haven't heard of any that were not either asymptomatic or sporting very mild cases.

Don't forget that early on only people showing obvious signs of the illness were getting tested.

K Major · 06-23-2020, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

From what I am hearing there will be daily testing upon entering the facility. They are saying that there will be rapid testing readily available by then ... especially with pockets as deep as the NFL's. If they are tested positive, they would be isolated immediately and monitored (and treated if necessary) until ready to return. The only way for half the team, and or staff to have it all at one time would for them to get it from outside sources independently at the same time. The exposure for the players should not be from other players, but rather their contacts outside of the facilities and stadium. It is also being said that players will have to agree to sheltering in place and avoiding people outside of their immediate families though the course of the season.

Players are going to get it. There is no doubting that. But, with expanded rosters and practice squads it can be handled. There is far too much money on the line for everyone involved for there NOT to be a season. I also heard today that several hundred pro and college players have tested positive already in preliminary testing. I haven't heard of any that were not either asymptomatic or sporting very mild cases.

Don't forget that early on only people showing obvious signs of the illness were getting tested.

My guess is that the NFL will closely monitor the NBA's approach to starting the season however the biggest obstacle here will be logistics (in terms of size).

From my reading, the NBA's format is to allow 37 people including players per team. Let's say from a NFL's perspective, they have at least 55 players which is a rough total of at least 100 (trainers/coaches/etc) per team. Outside of the playing fields, you need the capacity to put 3000+ people in a "bubble".

That alone seems to be a potential logistical nightmare for the league.

But from a financial angle & aspect, I totally get it.

K Major · 06-23-2020, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There is far too much money on the line for everyone involved for there NOT to be a season. I also heard today that several hundred pro and college players have tested positive already in preliminary testing. I haven't heard of any that were not either asymptomatic or sporting very mild cases.

Don't forget that early on only people showing obvious signs of the illness were getting tested.

Speaking of money ...

Here is a quick read and the financial implications if teams were to play without fans. By the way, the Dallas Cows franchise is a monster in terms of revenue.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeoza.../#a03b597691ad

The Dude · 06-23-2020, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

From what I am hearing there will be daily testing upon entering the facility. They are saying that there will be rapid testing readily available by then ... especially with pockets as deep as the NFL's. If they are tested positive, they would be isolated immediately and monitored (and treated if necessary) until ready to return. The only way for half the team, and or staff to have it all at one time would for them to get it from outside sources independently at the same time. The exposure for the players should not be from other players, but rather their contacts outside of the facilities and stadium. It is also being said that players will have to agree to sheltering in place and avoiding people outside of their immediate families though the course of the season.

Players are going to get it. There is no doubting that. But, with expanded rosters and practice squads it can be handled. There is far too much money on the line for everyone involved for there NOT to be a season. I also heard today that several hundred pro and college players have tested positive already in preliminary testing. I haven't heard of any that were not either asymptomatic or sporting very mild cases.

Don't forget that early on only people showing obvious signs of the illness were getting tested.

Tests are so inconsistent I doubt they would do much to stop the spread. My mom got three false negatives three days in a row and on the fourth day she tested positive. Unless there are major advancements in testing by then I don’t see how testing can help.

K Major · 06-25-2020, 08:30 AM

More NFL news ...

NFL cancels Hall of Fame Game, Class of '20 enshrinement postponed due to coronavirus

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ed/3256131001/

ChrisXVI · 06-25-2020, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

More NFL news ...

NFL cancels Hall of Fame Game, Class of '20 enshrinement postponed due to coronavirus

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ed/3256131001/

First of many unfortunately.

AsylumGuido · 06-25-2020, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

First of many unfortunately.

Unfortunately if you value preseason games. Very few in the game do value them much at all anymore. The proposed elimination of two of the four preseason tilts is being welcomed by coaches and players alike. There's been talk of eliminating the HOF game itself for years now.

AsylumGuido · 06-25-2020, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

More NFL news ...

NFL cancels Hall of Fame Game, Class of '20 enshrinement postponed due to coronavirus

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ed/3256131001/

That was totally expected. The plan, although not finalized, has been to only have two preseason games, one home and one away, for each team starting in what would have been the second week of preseason. This will give an off week before the start of the regular season. It will also give each team a dry run on safety protocols for both home and away prior to the start of the season.

K Major · 06-25-2020, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That was totally expected. The plan, although not finalized, has been to only have two preseason games, one home and one away, for each team starting in what would have been the second week of preseason. This will give an off week before the start of the regular season. It will also give each team a dry run on safety protocols for both home and away prior to the start of the season.

Pre season games & cancellations are probably the "easiest" obstacle to tackle right now for the league. I go back to my previous post as it relates to having a full season of football ... logistics.

There is no baseball or restart of the NBA since Covid 19. NFL is a major operation & need to be very careful here. IMO I don't see a full season of football being played for 2020.

The best thing the league has on their side right now is time.

06-23-2020, 09:35 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by TheOak Easy, you sequester them. Sounds crazy but I'd gladly allow myself to be sequestered for 4 months for anywhere from $500k-$30MM. Wouldn't you? Heck, I did it for less than $500 a month for the US ARMY. So how does a team and/or coach prepare for half of their team having to quarantine at the drop of a hat? Or the older, more susceptible coaches on the staff? Again, I don't see how the NFL will pull it off in 2020.

06-23-2020, 12:16 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by K Major So how does a team and/or coach prepare for half of their team having to quarantine at the drop of a hat? Or the older, more susceptible coaches on the staff? Again, I don't see how the NFL will pull it off in 2020. From what I am hearing there will be daily testing upon entering the facility. They are saying that there will be rapid testing readily available by then ... especially with pockets as deep as the NFL's. If they are tested positive, they would be isolated immediately and monitored (and treated if necessary) until ready to return. The only way for half the team, and or staff to have it all at one time would for them to get it from outside sources independently at the same time. The exposure for the players should not be from other players, but rather their contacts outside of the facilities and stadium. It is also being said that players will have to agree to sheltering in place and avoiding people outside of their immediate families though the course of the season. Players are going to get it. There is no doubting that. But, with expanded rosters and practice squads it can be handled. There is far too much money on the line for everyone involved for there NOT to be a season. I also heard today that several hundred pro and college players have tested positive already in preliminary testing. I haven't heard of any that were not either asymptomatic or sporting very mild cases. Don't forget that early on only people showing obvious signs of the illness were getting tested.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

06-23-2020, 12:40 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by AsylumGuido From what I am hearing there will be daily testing upon entering the facility. They are saying that there will be rapid testing readily available by then ... especially with pockets as deep as the NFL's. If they are tested positive, they would be isolated immediately and monitored (and treated if necessary) until ready to return. The only way for half the team, and or staff to have it all at one time would for them to get it from outside sources independently at the same time. The exposure for the players should not be from other players, but rather their contacts outside of the facilities and stadium. It is also being said that players will have to agree to sheltering in place and avoiding people outside of their immediate families though the course of the season. Players are going to get it. There is no doubting that. But, with expanded rosters and practice squads it can be handled. There is far too much money on the line for everyone involved for there NOT to be a season. I also heard today that several hundred pro and college players have tested positive already in preliminary testing. I haven't heard of any that were not either asymptomatic or sporting very mild cases. Don't forget that early on only people showing obvious signs of the illness were getting tested. My guess is that the NFL will closely monitor the NBA's approach to starting the season however the biggest obstacle here will be logistics (in terms of size). From my reading, the NBA's format is to allow 37 people including players per team. Let's say from a NFL's perspective, they have at least 55 players which is a rough total of at least 100 (trainers/coaches/etc) per team. Outside of the playing fields, you need the capacity to put 3000+ people in a "bubble". That alone seems to be a potential logistical nightmare for the league. But from a financial angle & aspect, I totally get it.

06-23-2020, 01:04 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There is far too much money on the line for everyone involved for there NOT to be a season. I also heard today that several hundred pro and college players have tested positive already in preliminary testing. I haven't heard of any that were not either asymptomatic or sporting very mild cases. Don't forget that early on only people showing obvious signs of the illness were getting tested. Speaking of money ... Here is a quick read and the financial implications if teams were to play without fans. By the way, the Dallas Cows franchise is a monster in terms of revenue. https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeoza.../#a03b597691ad

06-23-2020, 02:41 PM	#5
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by AsylumGuido From what I am hearing there will be daily testing upon entering the facility. They are saying that there will be rapid testing readily available by then ... especially with pockets as deep as the NFL's. If they are tested positive, they would be isolated immediately and monitored (and treated if necessary) until ready to return. The only way for half the team, and or staff to have it all at one time would for them to get it from outside sources independently at the same time. The exposure for the players should not be from other players, but rather their contacts outside of the facilities and stadium. It is also being said that players will have to agree to sheltering in place and avoiding people outside of their immediate families though the course of the season. Players are going to get it. There is no doubting that. But, with expanded rosters and practice squads it can be handled. There is far too much money on the line for everyone involved for there NOT to be a season. I also heard today that several hundred pro and college players have tested positive already in preliminary testing. I haven't heard of any that were not either asymptomatic or sporting very mild cases. Don't forget that early on only people showing obvious signs of the illness were getting tested. Tests are so inconsistent I doubt they would do much to stop the spread. My mom got three false negatives three days in a row and on the fourth day she tested positive. Unless there are major advancements in testing by then I don’t see how testing can help.
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06-25-2020, 08:30 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible More NFL news ... NFL cancels Hall of Fame Game, Class of '20 enshrinement postponed due to coronavirus https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ed/3256131001/

06-25-2020, 10:54 AM	#7
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by K Major More NFL news ... NFL cancels Hall of Fame Game, Class of '20 enshrinement postponed due to coronavirus https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ed/3256131001/ First of many unfortunately. K Major likes this.

06-25-2020, 01:19 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by ChrisXVI First of many unfortunately. Unfortunately if you value preseason games. Very few in the game do value them much at all anymore. The proposed elimination of two of the four preseason tilts is being welcomed by coaches and players alike. There's been talk of eliminating the HOF game itself for years now.

06-25-2020, 01:15 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by K Major More NFL news ... NFL cancels Hall of Fame Game, Class of '20 enshrinement postponed due to coronavirus https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ed/3256131001/ That was totally expected. The plan, although not finalized, has been to only have two preseason games, one home and one away, for each team starting in what would have been the second week of preseason. This will give an off week before the start of the regular season. It will also give each team a dry run on safety protocols for both home and away prior to the start of the season.

06-25-2020, 03:03 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Starting to think NFL season not feasible Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That was totally expected. The plan, although not finalized, has been to only have two preseason games, one home and one away, for each team starting in what would have been the second week of preseason. This will give an off week before the start of the regular season. It will also give each team a dry run on safety protocols for both home and away prior to the start of the season. Pre season games & cancellations are probably the "easiest" obstacle to tackle right now for the league. I go back to my previous post as it relates to having a full season of football ... logistics. There is no baseball or restart of the NBA since Covid 19. NFL is a major operation & need to be very careful here. IMO I don't see a full season of football being played for 2020. The best thing the league has on their side right now is time.