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Danno 07-13-2020 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 892355)
You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

nola_swammi 07-14-2020 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 892360)
According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

Where is the link

rezburna 07-14-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 892360)
According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

Sounds like reform and policies to me.

1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going.
2. Money and land for descendants of slavery.
3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang.
4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans.
5. Political prisoners should definitely be released.
6. Another policy change for ALL Americans.

I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it.

AsylumGuido 07-14-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 892370)
Sounds like reform and policies to me.

1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going.
2. Money and land for descendants of slavery.
3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang.
4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans.
5. Political prisoners should definitely be released.
6. Another policy change for ALL Americans.

I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it.

Shreveport is one of the eleven cities selected to test UBI (Universal basic income), along with Los Angeles and Atlanta.

"The mayors of Los Angeles; Oakland, California; Atlanta, Georgia; Tacoma, Washington, Newark, New Jersey; Saint Paul, Minnesota; Jackson, Mississippi; Compton, California; Shreveport, Louisiana and Stockton, California, have joined Mayors For A Guaranteed Income, a coalition advocating for UBI policies, or the idea of giving out recurring cash payments to all individuals without any strings attached."

This is proposed for all Americans, as well. Automation is eliminating jobs at record levels and this is a proposed solution for lowering poverty.

spkb25 07-14-2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 892324)
You mad bro?

Of course not, just factual as always

spkb25 07-14-2020 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 892328)
You speak in bold statements, for someone who says the ignorant things they say. "All of the issue's are self inflicted " YOU are apart of the problem in this country CLEARLY.

Be a GREAT man , and be apart of the solution/creation of something bigger than yourself. You could learn alot from Drew Brees.

All of the issues are self inflicted. Black Americans cause their own problems. What id like to see you do is help some of the parents bury their kids. Other than that just be quiet.

spkb25 07-14-2020 03:45 PM

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Automation is eliminating jobs, except for those willing to work. For those people, somehow, miraculously, there's always work. For instance, ever seen a Hispanic from say El Salvador turn down work. Me either. But they're not a black American. Go down to Ft. Lauderdale airport. There are so many employed black people there. They're all Haitians, because they're not black Americans. You will quickly wonder how in the world these people who did not speak English learned the language and work so hard in their new country. When you're not entitled, when you know what real starvation is, and you know what actual lack of any opportunity looks like and you're blessed with just a chance at more, then you work and live with that reality. Black Americans know nothing about this. They're entitled, spoon fed, with an awful culture of death and fatherless children. Drugs and constant crime.

The Dude 07-14-2020 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 892355)
You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

rezburna 07-14-2020 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 892411)
BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

I think BLM is what they’ve always been. A multicultural, reformist group with a highlighted focus on the LGBTQ and feminist communities. I don’t think ANTIFA hijacked it at all. I think ANTIFA uses the momentum of Black movements to attempt to push their agenda forward.

BLM the organization are just like Black people in general, not a monolith. The leaders and the followers aren’t always on the same page. I don’t identify with their movement, but I speak up on their behalf when being attacked because they’re simply doing what they think will bring about the best results, thus our disagreements aren’t for the world to see and comment on.

There’s far too much focus on BLM anyway. What gets lost is the hashtag existed before the organization. The organization utilized the popularity of the hashtag to create itself. Therefore, the usage of the phrase isn’t always a reference to the organization. It’s often times just a rallying cry.

It’s no different than Black Power. Stokely Carmichael created that phrase to become a sociopolitical ideology and strategy. The people couldn’t tell you what that ideology and strategy is. They simply liked the way it sounded and used it as a rallying cry. Again, too much focus on Black Lives Matter...not enough focus on actual solutions.

AsylumGuido 07-14-2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 892410)
Automation is eliminating jobs, except for those willing to work. For those people, somehow, miraculously, there's always work. For instance, ever seen a Hispanic from say El Salvador turn down work. Me either. But they're not a black American. Go down to Ft. Lauderdale airport. There are so many employed black people there. They're all Haitians, because they're not black Americans. You will quickly wonder how in the world these people who did not speak English learned the language and work so hard in their new country. When you're not entitled, when you know what real starvation is, and you know what actual lack of any opportunity looks like and you're blessed with just a chance at more, then you work and live with that reality. Black Americans know nothing about this. They're entitled, spoon fed, with an awful culture of death and fatherless children. Drugs and constant crime.

Those nasty assed American blacks. The scourge of the earth, right? Good thing you aren't prejudiced. You see things the way the really are.

spkb25 07-14-2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 892411)
BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

Black babies are being killed by the dozen and these dumbasses. BTW please donate to help these parents bury their babies. Theyre going through enough due to these dumbass black Americans to have to be concerned with that too.

AsylumGuido 07-14-2020 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 892415)
Black babies are being killed by the dozen and these dumbasses. BTW please donate to help these parents bury their babies. Theyre going through enough due to these dumbass black Americans to have to be concerned with that too.

Simply amazing!

spkb25 07-14-2020 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 892413)
Those nasty assed American blacks. The scourge of the earth, right? Good thing you aren't prejudiced. You see things the way the really are.

Please explain, I get the feeling you mean being p re ejusdice is a bad thing. Im very prejudice and happy to be. Saves lives. Let me explain, you're not all that bright.

I just purchased a brand new 44 mag. Beautiful little weapon. She has one job, being an extension of my prejudice. So for inatance someone may enter my home. I'm not worried about their purpose. Im going to be prejudice and assume you mean to harm me and my family. If I dont **** myself too much and aim halfway decent youre going to end up with 2 to 4 rounds of 240 gr tcsp in the torso. Youre not going to survive. Maybe that person was old and had alzheimers. Don't know, don't care.

spkb25 07-14-2020 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 892416)
Simply amazing!

ty. BTW did you donate to the go fund me I posted?

Who the F are we kidding, we know you didn't.

nola_swammi 07-14-2020 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 892409)
All of the issues are self inflicted. Black Americans cause their own problems. What id like to see you do is help some of the parents bury their kids. Other than that just be quiet.

Sound like you’re a racist so let’s this be the last we EVER respond to each other

spkb25 07-14-2020 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 892427)
Sound like you’re a racist so let’s this be the last we EVER respond to each other

Of course that's how truth sounds to you. Youre dishonest.

nola_swammi 07-14-2020 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 892411)
BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

What proof do you have it been hijacked by ANTIFA? A lot of allegations of this or that but not one ounce of proof. Anything and everything is used by REPUBLICANS and WHITE SUPREMACY to either alter the message or change the narrative. This brutality been going on every since slavery but reached optical rapport after being verified when they (policemen) were videotaped beating Rodney King to all officers being acquitted. What I am getting from this is excuses for turning a blind eye. 1. Disrespecting America 2. All lives matter 3. Black killing blacks. 4.whites are more victim than blacks to being killed by police. Now it’s ANTIFA. GIVE ME A BREAK.

As for Republicans, why are they so all in for defunding schools at every turn but defunding the police is so wrong. Do police really need drones and other high tech military arsenals over educating our youth. Do police need to be called for non lethal mental health situation over a social worker.

spkb25 07-14-2020 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 892429)
What proof do you have it been hijacked by ANTIFA? A lot of allegations of this or that but not one ounce of proof. Anything and everything is used by REPUBLICANS and WHITE SUPREMACY to either alter the message or change the narrative. This brutality been going on every since slavery but reached optical rapport after being verified when they (policemen) were videotaped beating Rodney King to all officers being acquitted. What I am getting from this is excuses for turning a blind eye. 1. Disrespecting America 2. All lives matter 3. Black killing blacks. 4.whites are more victim than blacks to being killed by police. Now it’s ANTIFA. GIVE ME A BREAK.

As for Republicans, why are they so all in for defunding schools at every turn but defunding the police is so wrong. Do police really need drones and other high tech military arsenals over educating our youth. Do police need to be called for non lethal mental health situation over a social worker.

I see you're still responding, further demonstrating how much of a liar you are. You were committed to an idea and then couldn't live up to it. Man if that's not typical.

Black American men have no problem with killing each other. They need 0 help, this is one they have fully figured out. Theyre experts. So it offends me when you don't give Black American men credit for their expertise.

I'll tell you this, and no doubt it is something you will fully understand. My wife is not a black American, but had she been i would have finally understood the need that burns inside black American men to abandon their babies.

Now, why don't you for once live up to your commitments and stop talking with the racist

iceshack149 07-15-2020 01:10 PM

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To the moderators, I appreciate you letting us hash things out without fear of being suspended or worse, being banned. This discussion is the most complicated topic to tackle since we've all had positive and negative experiences with members of other races regardless of our locations on this planet. It's mostly healthy to speak about this and hopefully gain perspective so that we all can attempt to empathize with our fellow Americans and people of all nationalities.

To my friends and fellow members, please try to at the very least sympathize with other people's walks in life. To be prejudiced against a person because of the color of their skin or other differences they have from you is just silly. Black, white or otherwise. I've learned that there are great people from every race and there are terrible people from every race. To assume what a person is like based on their appearance is ignorant.

dizzle88 07-15-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 892450)
To the moderators, I appreciate you letting us hash things out without fear of being suspended or worse, being banned. This discussion is the most complicated topic to tackle since we've all had positive and negative experiences with members of other races regardless of our locations on this planet. It's mostly healthy to speak about this and hopefully gain perspective so that we all can attempt to empathize with our fellow Americans and people of all nationalities.

To my friends and fellow members, please try to at the very least sympathize with other people's walks in life. To be prejudiced against a person because of the color of their skin or other differences they have from you is just silly. Black, white or otherwise. I've learned that there are great people from every race and there are terrible people from every race. To assume what a person is like based on their appearance is ignorant.

Couldn't say it better myself. Every race, every workplace, every group of people, every country, they all have a minority of idiotic people and unfortunately some people see that and automatically think that is true for the entire group.

Uncertain times we are living in, but you can't argue with idiots, you'll never win.

AsylumGuido 07-15-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 892450)
To the moderators, I appreciate you letting us hash things out without fear of being suspended or worse, being banned. This discussion is the most complicated topic to tackle since we've all had positive and negative experiences with members of other races regardless of our locations on this planet. It's mostly healthy to speak about this and hopefully gain perspective so that we all can attempt to empathize with our fellow Americans and people of all nationalities.

To my friends and fellow members, please try to at the very least sympathize with other people's walks in life. To be prejudiced against a person because of the color of their skin or other differences they have from you is just silly. Black, white or otherwise. I've learned that there are great people from every race and there are terrible people from every race. To assume what a person is like based on their appearance is ignorant.

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 892453)
Couldn't say it better myself. Every race, every workplace, every group of people, every country, they all have a minority of idiotic people and unfortunately some people see that and automatically think that is true for the entire group.

Uncertain times we are living in, but you can't argue with idiots, you'll never win.

I agree completely with all of this.

spkb25 07-15-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 892450)
To the moderators, I appreciate you letting us hash things out without fear of being suspended or worse, being banned. This discussion is the most complicated topic to tackle since we've all had positive and negative experiences with members of other races regardless of our locations on this planet. It's mostly healthy to speak about this and hopefully gain perspective so that we all can attempt to empathize with our fellow Americans and people of all nationalities.

To my friends and fellow members, please try to at the very least sympathize with other people's walks in life. To be prejudiced against a person because of the color of their skin or other differences they have from you is just silly. Black, white or otherwise. I've learned that there are great people from every race and there are terrible people from every race. To assume what a person is like based on their appearance is ignorant.

Well yeah bro, we are all the same human animals, same DNA. You can watch videos or read studies and see how kids from all over the planet pretty much have all similar if not identical behaviors.

Amazing the evil we are capable of, and equally as amazing is the acts of love and selflessness we are capable of.

iceshack149 07-15-2020 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 892457)
Well yeah bro, we are all the same human animals, same DNA. You can watch videos or read studies and see how kids from all over the planet pretty much have all similar if not identical behaviors.

Amazing the evil we are capable of, and equally as amazing is the acts of love and selflessness we are capable of.

Extremely frustrating that the former garners all the attention while the latter goes largely unnoticed.

Every news outlet and social media platform have evil entities filling their ears and their pockets.

SaintGup 07-15-2020 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 892198)
There’s no such thing as black privilege. A black person can get called the N-Word by any other race and it hurts them to the core. A black person can use any disparaging word against any other race and it won’t mean as much because their still looked upon as an N-Word.

Bottom line, are people really comparing Jackson to Brees. Jackson has been a bonehead probably forever. I’d go to war with Brees and trust him with watching my six.

There is black privilege, there is white privilege. There is male privilege and female privilege. Privilege exists in many forms yet it seems that white privilege is the only one being talked about. Everyone just shut up and send me money.

SaintGup 07-15-2020 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 892330)
Some of y’all really do forget. Not to dilute what Jackson said or to say it wasn’t as outrageous as Brees. Brees knew what the protest was about to the point he actually kneeled in solidarity with his teammates. At some point he felt it was necessary to show his support for the military men & women by personally attending troops functions. What pissed off teammates and other players is at the point of the movement, when it is crystal clear to the nations that BLM is about police brutality and killing of black Americans, once again he TRIED to change the NARRATIVE to DISRESPECTING THE FLAG. Kneeling at the flag with hand on heart is not disrespectful. I can go back and post pictures where it was look upon as favorable. It’s that it was a protest that is meaningful to black people that some white people detest.

Just wanted you to see the picture

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...ments.amp.html

BLM is not about black lives or police brutality. There are many things that they want and one of them is the destruction of western family values, of the nuclear family. They don't want the typical 'ma and pa raising kids' household. If they cared about black lives they wouldbe wanting to strengthen this. The whole black lives and police brutality thing is just a tool they use to get what they want and they use it as a cover.

nola_swammi 07-15-2020 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintGup (Post 892486)
BLM is not about black lives or police brutality. There are many things that they want and one of them is the destruction of western family values, of the nuclear family. They don't want the typical 'ma and pa raising kids' household. If they cared about black lives they wouldbe wanting to strengthen this. The whole black lives and police brutality thing is just a tool they use to get what they want and they use it as a cover.

You stupid

frydaddy 07-15-2020 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 892496)
You stupid

You blind

SaintGup 07-22-2020 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 892496)
You stupid

Good comeback, you really got me there but here's an idea...go to BLM's webpage and have a look at their mission statements (this means what they are advocating for. Sorry, this means what they want) and then do some thinking for yourself.

SaintGup 07-22-2020 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 892411)
BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

No, everyone cannot agree on that. It was started when Michael Brown got shot in the 'hands up, don't shoot' debacle. It was two or three (sue me) radical feminists, some say they were lesbian, but I don't know what country they came from. Anyway, they want to bring down the nuclear family and destroy the institution of marriage. The 'police brutality' statement was just a cover.

Rugby Saint II 07-22-2020 11:08 AM

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Well, I've lost respect for a large group of posters here who are speaking off the cuff and are simply spouting rhetoric of hatred and bias. Drew is not a coward! Drew is a good man who may or may not have made a mistake by standing up for his values. Regardless, he doesn't ever want to offend anyone and will do his best not to. Not because of pressure but because he believes it's the right thing to do.

One more thing. Black lives matter needs to be renamed ex-con lives matter. The majority of black lives lost would be fewer if they would only cooperate with authority instead of escalating a situation. Almost everyone of the blacks killed by police are ex-cons who don't value human life. These people aren't heroes. They robbed and killed innocent people and we turn them into martyrs. If we turn on our ancestors who owned slaves then why can't we turn against the ex-cons who turned against society?

All lives matter...but mostly ex-con lives matter the most. Hard working people don't matter. Right?


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