In Honor of the Redskins Changing Their Name

vpheughan · 07-15-2020, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Why don't they just assign random 4 digit numbers to teams and have them all wear the same color, filtering for obviously offensive numbers and colors of course? Doesn't that seem like a more woke and egalitarian solution? Why stop there, there's plenty of hierarchical power structures to dismantle!

Why have different hairstyles? They should all be fully shaved so as not to discriminate against those losing their hair.

How about they all wear full body coverings so as not to be identified, with no names on their jerseys.

Since sports is all about it, hell, why don't we require teams to sign and play a certain number of non-athletes, that way I could live my NFL dream completely unfettered by the unfair power structure of competence that girds this tyrannical institution.

Tell me what great leap forward or innovation ever came out of censorship? More freedom is the only way to prosper, not less. If you want to change the name, buy it, own it, and change it yourself; otherwise, go find something else to do that doesn't degrade your mental stability to the point of not being able to function.

I saw a movie 30 years ago that predicted this. In it everything was base lined off the worst in each category. In sports if you could run faster or jump higher, you had to wear "handicappers" to slow and bring you down to the worst baseline. Wise up NFL!!! No more receivers "that can fly" they'll all be 6.8 in the 40 guys now!! NBA no more "Big Men" MLB no more pitchers that can throw "smoke"!!! I'm 68 and can't wait to sign that huge NFL contract!!!!

vpheughan · 07-15-2020, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Why don't they just assign random 4 digit numbers to teams and have them all wear the same color, filtering for obviously offensive numbers and colors of course? Doesn't that seem like a more woke and egalitarian solution? Why stop there, there's plenty of hierarchical power structures to dismantle!

Why have different hairstyles? They should all be fully shaved so as not to discriminate against those losing their hair.

How about they all wear full body coverings so as not to be identified, with no names on their jerseys.

Since sports is all about it, hell, why don't we require teams to sign and play a certain number of non-athletes, that way I could live my NFL dream completely unfettered by the unfair power structure of competence that girds this tyrannical institution.

Tell me what great leap forward or innovation ever came out of censorship? More freedom is the only way to prosper, not less. If you want to change the name, buy it, own it, and change it yourself; otherwise, go find something else to do that doesn't degrade your mental stability to the point of not being able to function.

I saw a movie 48 years ago Between Earth And Timbuktu, based on the Kurt Vonnegut novel that predicted this. In one part everything was base lined off the worst in each category. In sports if you could run faster or jump higher, you had to wear "handicappers" to slow and bring you down to the baseline. Wise up NFL!!! No more receivers "that can fly" they'll all be 6.8 in the 40 guys now!! NBA no more "Big Men" MLB no more pitchers that can throw "smoke"!!! I'm 68 and can't wait to sign that huge NFL contract!!!!

AsylumGuido · 07-15-2020, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

I saw a movie 30 years ago that predicted this. In it everything was base lined off the worst in each category. In sports if you could run faster or jump higher, you had to wear "handicappers" to slow and bring you down to the worst baseline. Wise up NFL!!! No more receivers "that can fly" they'll all be 6.8 in the 40 guys now!! NBA no more "Big Men" MLB no more pitchers that can throw "smoke"!!! I'm 68 and can't wait to sign that huge NFL contract!!!!

Originally Posted by vpheughan

I saw a movie 48 years ago Between Earth And Timbuktu, based on the Kurt Vonnegut novel that predicted this. In one part everything was base lined off the worst in each category. In sports if you could run faster or jump higher, you had to wear "handicappers" to slow and bring you down to the baseline. Wise up NFL!!! No more receivers "that can fly" they'll all be 6.8 in the 40 guys now!! NBA no more "Big Men" MLB no more pitchers that can throw "smoke"!!! I'm 68 and can't wait to sign that huge NFL contract!!!!

Which was it?

Seriously (Siriusly?), I love Vonnegut. I never saw the television play, however. Although, I'm sure I read most all, if not all, of the novels and short stories that provided the excerpts used in making the play.

vpheughan · 07-15-2020, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Which was it?

Seriously (Siriusly?), I love Vonnegut. I never saw the television play, however. Although, I'm sure I read most all, if not all, of the novels and short stories that provided the excerpts used in making the play.

A prime example of what happens to you when you hit your "golden" years. It was the 48 year ago one I believe it was on PBS. Yep! Found it

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AsylumGuido · 07-15-2020, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

A prime example of what happens to you when you hit your "golden" years. It was the 48 year ago one I believe it was on PBS. Yep! Found it

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Vonnegut's political satire is what he is known for, of course, but I really loved his science fiction, which is what the play is apparently based upon. The Sirens of Titan was probably my favorite. The same satirical vein of his later works, yet with a very entertaining sci-fi twist. It was his second novel - 1959. Robert Heinlein had to have been an influence.

Rugby Saint II · 07-22-2020, 12:41 PM

How about we name them the Washington I never stole land from native Americans?

SmashMouth · 07-22-2020, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

How about we name them the Washington I never stole land from native Americans?

Yeah but..... who did the Native Americans steal land from? And are they really Native? Just how far back should we really go?

vpheughan · 07-22-2020, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Yeah but..... who did the Native Americans steal land from? And are they really Native? Just how far back should we really go?

Neanderthals!

Neanderthals are our closest extinct human relatives. There is some debate as to whether they were a distinct species of the Homo genus (Homo neanderthalensis) or a subspecies of Homo sapiens. Our well-known, but often misunderstood, fossil kin lived in Eurasia 200,000 to 30,000 years ago, in the Pleistocene Epoch. They started to evolve 300,000 and 100,000 years ago, according to Encyclopedia Britannica.

Recent research published in the October 2017 issue of American Journal of Human Genetics found that genomes of modern human groups originating outside Africa contain between 1.8 and 2.6 percent Neanderthal DNA. "Neandertal DNA is one source of variation for many traits in modern humans," study lead author Michael Dannemann, a computational biologist at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, told Live Science.

No one knows exactly why Neanderthals went extinct and why Homo sapiens survived. Some scholars theorize that gradual or dramatic climate change led them to their demise, while others blame dietary deficiencies. Some theorize that humans killed the Neanderthals. Until recently the hypothesis that Neanderthals didn't go extinct but simply interbred with humans until they were absorbed into our species was popular.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: In Honor of the Redskins Changing Their Name Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie Why don't they just assign random 4 digit numbers to teams and have them all wear the same color, filtering for obviously offensive numbers and colors of course? Doesn't that seem like a more woke and egalitarian solution? Why stop there, there's plenty of hierarchical power structures to dismantle! Why have different hairstyles? They should all be fully shaved so as not to discriminate against those losing their hair. How about they all wear full body coverings so as not to be identified, with no names on their jerseys. Since sports is all about it, hell, why don't we require teams to sign and play a certain number of non-athletes, that way I could live my NFL dream completely unfettered by the unfair power structure of competence that girds this tyrannical institution. Tell me what great leap forward or innovation ever came out of censorship? More freedom is the only way to prosper, not less. If you want to change the name, buy it, own it, and change it yourself; otherwise, go find something else to do that doesn't degrade your mental stability to the point of not being able to function. I saw a movie 30 years ago that predicted this. In it everything was base lined off the worst in each category. In sports if you could run faster or jump higher, you had to wear "handicappers" to slow and bring you down to the worst baseline. Wise up NFL!!! No more receivers "that can fly" they'll all be 6.8 in the 40 guys now!! NBA no more "Big Men" MLB no more pitchers that can throw "smoke"!!! I'm 68 and can't wait to sign that huge NFL contract!!!! SmashMouth likes this.
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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: In Honor of the Redskins Changing Their Name Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie Why don't they just assign random 4 digit numbers to teams and have them all wear the same color, filtering for obviously offensive numbers and colors of course? Doesn't that seem like a more woke and egalitarian solution? Why stop there, there's plenty of hierarchical power structures to dismantle! Why have different hairstyles? They should all be fully shaved so as not to discriminate against those losing their hair. How about they all wear full body coverings so as not to be identified, with no names on their jerseys. Since sports is all about it, hell, why don't we require teams to sign and play a certain number of non-athletes, that way I could live my NFL dream completely unfettered by the unfair power structure of competence that girds this tyrannical institution. Tell me what great leap forward or innovation ever came out of censorship? More freedom is the only way to prosper, not less. If you want to change the name, buy it, own it, and change it yourself; otherwise, go find something else to do that doesn't degrade your mental stability to the point of not being able to function. I saw a movie 48 years ago Between Earth And Timbuktu, based on the Kurt Vonnegut novel that predicted this. In one part everything was base lined off the worst in each category. In sports if you could run faster or jump higher, you had to wear "handicappers" to slow and bring you down to the baseline. Wise up NFL!!! No more receivers "that can fly" they'll all be 6.8 in the 40 guys now!! NBA no more "Big Men" MLB no more pitchers that can throw "smoke"!!! I'm 68 and can't wait to sign that huge NFL contract!!!!
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: In Honor of the Redskins Changing Their Name Originally Posted by vpheughan I saw a movie 30 years ago that predicted this. In it everything was base lined off the worst in each category. In sports if you could run faster or jump higher, you had to wear "handicappers" to slow and bring you down to the worst baseline. Wise up NFL!!! No more receivers "that can fly" they'll all be 6.8 in the 40 guys now!! NBA no more "Big Men" MLB no more pitchers that can throw "smoke"!!! I'm 68 and can't wait to sign that huge NFL contract!!!! Originally Posted by vpheughan I saw a movie 48 years ago Between Earth And Timbuktu, based on the Kurt Vonnegut novel that predicted this. In one part everything was base lined off the worst in each category. In sports if you could run faster or jump higher, you had to wear "handicappers" to slow and bring you down to the baseline. Wise up NFL!!! No more receivers "that can fly" they'll all be 6.8 in the 40 guys now!! NBA no more "Big Men" MLB no more pitchers that can throw "smoke"!!! I'm 68 and can't wait to sign that huge NFL contract!!!! Which was it? Seriously (Siriusly?), I love Vonnegut. I never saw the television play, however. Although, I'm sure I read most all, if not all, of the novels and short stories that provided the excerpts used in making the play.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: In Honor of the Redskins Changing Their Name Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Which was it? Seriously (Siriusly?), I love Vonnegut. I never saw the television play, however. Although, I'm sure I read most all, if not all, of the novels and short stories that provided the excerpts used in making the play. A prime example of what happens to you when you hit your "golden" years. It was the 48 year ago one I believe it was on PBS. Yep! Found it Company Credits Production Co: National Educational Television (NET), WGBH See more » Show more on IMDbPro »
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: In Honor of the Redskins Changing Their Name Originally Posted by vpheughan A prime example of what happens to you when you hit your "golden" years. It was the 48 year ago one I believe it was on PBS. Yep! Found it Company Credits Production Co: National Educational Television (NET), WGBH See more » Show more on IMDbPro » Vonnegut's political satire is what he is known for, of course, but I really loved his science fiction, which is what the play is apparently based upon. The Sirens of Titan was probably my favorite. The same satirical vein of his later works, yet with a very entertaining sci-fi twist. It was his second novel - 1959. Robert Heinlein had to have been an influence.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: In Honor of the Redskins Changing Their Name Originally Posted by SmashMouth Yeah but..... who did the Native Americans steal land from? And are they really Native? Just how far back should we really go? Neanderthals! Neanderthals are our closest extinct human relatives. There is some debate as to whether they were a distinct species of the Homo genus (Homo neanderthalensis) or a subspecies of Homo sapiens. Our well-known, but often misunderstood, fossil kin lived in Eurasia 200,000 to 30,000 years ago, in the Pleistocene Epoch. They started to evolve 300,000 and 100,000 years ago, according to Encyclopedia Britannica. Recent research published in the October 2017 issue of American Journal of Human Genetics found that genomes of modern human groups originating outside Africa contain between 1.8 and 2.6 percent Neanderthal DNA. "Neandertal DNA is one source of variation for many traits in modern humans," study lead author Michael Dannemann, a computational biologist at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, told Live Science. No one knows exactly why Neanderthals went extinct and why Homo sapiens survived. Some scholars theorize that gradual or dramatic climate change led them to their demise, while others blame dietary deficiencies. Some theorize that humans killed the Neanderthals. Until recently the hypothesis that Neanderthals didn't go extinct but simply interbred with humans until they were absorbed into our species was popular.
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	"Your worst enemy, he reflected, was your own nervous system. At any moment the tension inside you was liable to translate itself into some visible symptom." Winston Smith