YOU’RE FIRED! Jameis Winston fires agent after Saints deal

Beastmode · 07-21-2020, 12:50 PM

I doubt it's personal. Some agents are better at certain aspects. Smart move IMO. Get to play behind Brees, raise his stock some on that alone. Next year, He needs an agent that will sell the sizzle as much as possible. Could even be traded mid season if a team is desperate.

He signed that deal almost 3 months ago. If he was that unhappy would have got another agent immediately...meh.

TheOak · 07-23-2020, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I doubt it's personal. Some agents are better at certain aspects. Smart move IMO. Get to play behind Brees, raise his stock some on that alone. Next year, He needs an agent that will sell the sizzle as much as possible. Could even be traded mid season if a team is desperate.

He signed that deal almost 3 months ago. If he was that unhappy would have got another agent immediately...meh.

Why would you get an agent immediately after you sign a contract?

AsylumGuido · 07-23-2020, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Why would you get an agent immediately after you sign a contract?

Agents do a lot more than negotiate contracts. They handle things like endorsement deals, public relations, investments and general finances, ongoing communications with the league (fines, appeals, drug testing), monitoring supplements, etc. Contract negotiation is only one aspect of their job.

TheOak · 07-23-2020, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Agents do a lot more than negotiate contracts. They handle things like endorsement deals, public relations, investments and general finances, ongoing communications with the league (fines, appeals, drug testing), monitoring supplements, etc. Contract negotiation is only one aspect of their job.

Not looking for a job description. It is the off season, during a pandemic, and this is Jameis Winston.

Joel Segal is in the cream of the crop of spots agents and Winston has no new agent as of yet.

I may have misread Beastmode's reply.

AsylumGuido · 07-23-2020, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Not looking for a job description. It is the off season, during a pandemic, and this is Jameis Winston.

Joel Segal is in the cream of the crop of spots agents and Winston has no new agent as of yet.

I may have misread Beastmode's reply.

Honestly, Winston needs to "reinvent" himself. Perhaps he was not satisfied with Segal doing that. It's only been a few days since he fired Segal. I'm curious as to who he picks up and what that agent does to help get him relevant again.

Rugby Saint II · 07-28-2020, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Honestly, Winston needs to "reinvent" himself. Perhaps he was not satisfied with Segal doing that. It's only been a few days since he fired Segal. I'm curious as to who he picks up and what that agent does to help get him relevant again.

I don't care who he picks I just don't see him as ever being relevant. You can't fix stupid.

AsylumGuido · 07-28-2020, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

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I don't care who he picks I just don't see him as ever being relevant. You can't fix stupid.

Actually, you can if it was related to immaturity. From everything I have heard about him he has been a model citizen for the past few years and is actually extremely sharp in the QB room. His only problem has been trying to force the ball.

TheOak · 07-29-2020, 05:26 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Honestly, Winston needs to "reinvent" himself. Perhaps he was not satisfied with Segal doing that. It's only been a few days since he fired Segal. I'm curious as to who he picks up and what that agent does to help get him relevant again.

Yeah.... That's some millennial speak right there..

You don't reinvent a "hot mess" brother. Young sluts have been trying to do that for centuries just to become old sluts.

Behavioral modification is difficult enough for people with a reasonable amount of self control much less someone with no control.

AsylumGuido · 07-29-2020, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Yeah.... That's some millennial speak right there.. You don't reinvent a "hot mess" brother. Young sluts have been trying to do that for centuries just to become old sluts.

Behavioral modification is difficult enough for people with a reasonable amount of self control much less someone with no control.

That's just it. He's apparently shown self-control over the past few years ... except when throwing the ball on the field. That IS something that can be coached. Loomis said in an interview yesterday that "great" (I can't remember the exact expletive, but it was much stronger than great, outstanding or something) in everything he's been asked to do.

We'll see. Maybe we can trade him later in the season for something good.

07-21-2020, 12:50 PM	#1
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07-23-2020, 03:23 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Jameis Winston fires agent after Saints deal Originally Posted by Beastmode I doubt it's personal. Some agents are better at certain aspects. Smart move IMO. Get to play behind Brees, raise his stock some on that alone. Next year, He needs an agent that will sell the sizzle as much as possible. Could even be traded mid season if a team is desperate. He signed that deal almost 3 months ago. If he was that unhappy would have got another agent immediately...meh. Why would you get an agent immediately after you sign a contract?

07-23-2020, 06:59 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Jameis Winston fires agent after Saints deal Originally Posted by TheOak Why would you get an agent immediately after you sign a contract? Agents do a lot more than negotiate contracts. They handle things like endorsement deals, public relations, investments and general finances, ongoing communications with the league (fines, appeals, drug testing), monitoring supplements, etc. Contract negotiation is only one aspect of their job.

07-23-2020, 08:12 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Jameis Winston fires agent after Saints deal Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Agents do a lot more than negotiate contracts. They handle things like endorsement deals, public relations, investments and general finances, ongoing communications with the league (fines, appeals, drug testing), monitoring supplements, etc. Contract negotiation is only one aspect of their job. Not looking for a job description. It is the off season, during a pandemic, and this is Jameis Winston. Joel Segal is in the cream of the crop of spots agents and Winston has no new agent as of yet. I may have misread Beastmode's reply.

07-23-2020, 10:43 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Jameis Winston fires agent after Saints deal Originally Posted by TheOak Not looking for a job description. It is the off season, during a pandemic, and this is Jameis Winston. Joel Segal is in the cream of the crop of spots agents and Winston has no new agent as of yet. I may have misread Beastmode's reply. Honestly, Winston needs to "reinvent" himself. Perhaps he was not satisfied with Segal doing that. It's only been a few days since he fired Segal. I'm curious as to who he picks up and what that agent does to help get him relevant again.

07-28-2020, 11:26 AM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,148	Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Jameis Winston fires agent after Saints deal Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Honestly, Winston needs to "reinvent" himself. Perhaps he was not satisfied with Segal doing that. It's only been a few days since he fired Segal. I'm curious as to who he picks up and what that agent does to help get him relevant again. I don't care who he picks I just don't see him as ever being relevant. You can't fix stupid.

07-28-2020, 11:32 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Jameis Winston fires agent after Saints deal Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II [/B] I don't care who he picks I just don't see him as ever being relevant. You can't fix stupid. Actually, you can if it was related to immaturity. From everything I have heard about him he has been a model citizen for the past few years and is actually extremely sharp in the QB room. His only problem has been trying to force the ball.

07-29-2020, 05:26 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Jameis Winston fires agent after Saints deal Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Honestly, Winston needs to "reinvent" himself. Perhaps he was not satisfied with Segal doing that. It's only been a few days since he fired Segal. I'm curious as to who he picks up and what that agent does to help get him relevant again. Yeah.... That's some millennial speak right there.. You don't reinvent a "hot mess" brother. Young sluts have been trying to do that for centuries just to become old sluts. Behavioral modification is difficult enough for people with a reasonable amount of self control much less someone with no control.

07-29-2020, 06:44 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Jameis Winston fires agent after Saints deal Originally Posted by TheOak Yeah.... That's some millennial speak right there.. You don't reinvent a "hot mess" brother. Young sluts have been trying to do that for centuries just to become old sluts. Behavioral modification is difficult enough for people with a reasonable amount of self control much less someone with no control. That's just it. He's apparently shown self-control over the past few years ... except when throwing the ball on the field. That IS something that can be coached. Loomis said in an interview yesterday that "great" (I can't remember the exact expletive, but it was much stronger than great, outstanding or something) in everything he's been asked to do. We'll see. Maybe we can trade him later in the season for something good.