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Old 08-21-2020, 07:59 PM   #181
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For those that do not understand how things progress in the NFL preseason, the defense is always more prevalent due to the complexity of offense and the timing involved. Do not make the mistake to judge either unit or individual after only four practices.

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Old 08-21-2020, 08:17 PM   #182
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DEFENSE STANDS OUT AGAIN

The defense had another impressive day during team periods, and Payton said as much.

"I thought the defense had a pretty good day," Payton said. "Overall, I think they've got their legs underneath them."

The offense started out strong with quarterback Drew Brees opening up the first team period with completions to wide receiver Michael Thomas, wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders, Thomas again and tight end Jared Cook before things went off the rails. On Brees' last attempt of that series, he overthrew a pass that appeared to be intended for wide receiver Tre'Quan Smith.

When Brees came back into the team drills, he launched a pass intended for Thomas, but cornerback Janoris "Jackrabbit" Jenkins broke it up and Brees was less than pleased. On the next play, Brees had Cook in his sights but the ball fell incomplete, resulting in more frustration from Brees. Brees ended that three-play series with a completion to Thomas.

In the second period of team drills, defensive end Carl Granderson, defensive end Cameron Jordan and linebacker Demario Davis all sacked Brees. Additionally, both Jenkins and safety Ceedy Duce nearly came up with interceptions of the Saints quarterback.

WINSTON UPDATE

Quarterback Jameis Winston had an increase in reps Friday with Taysom Hill absent, but not everything went according to plan.

In the first team session, one of Winston's first passing attempts was batted down by defensive tackle Jalen Dalton. Winston was later sacked. He rebounded by connecting with wide receiver Lil’Jordan Humphrey, but then overthrew rookie receiver Marquez Callaway on the next play. Winston bounced back with completions to running back Ty Montgomery and Callaway.

On the last two plays of the first team session, Winston took a bad snap and completed a pass to wide receiver Deonte Harris. He then connected with wide receiver Emmanuel Butler.

Winston started off the second team session with a handoff to running back Dwayne Washington, then had four straight incompletions. Cornerback Patrick Robinson was in on the coverage for two of those missed passes and cornerback Justin Hardee was involved with another. The fourth incompletion was overthrown. Winston wrapped up his six-play series with a completion to wide receiver Juwan Johnson.

The second team period of practice ended with Winston having three more plays. He completed two passes to wide receiver Bennie Fowler III, but between those catches, cornerback P.J. Williams had an interception on a pass intended for rookie tight end Tommy Stevens.

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I don't see anything negative here. Except for maybe Winston's continued struggles. So, how does this support your premise that Brees will be replaced by Winston by week 4 AND that Brees is struggling AND Winston is "by far" the best QB in camp?

Try again.

Winston/Hill whoever doesn’t really matter. Not everything is unicorns and rainbows when it comes to Brees. You selectively post anything you can find as long as it fits your opinion. You asked for a reliable source and there it is, I didn’t just copy and paste the parts that support my opinions like you do.
I for one don’t care who our starting QB is. We have a very legit chance of making it to the Super Bowl with the amount of talent and depth we have on both sides of the ball.
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Dude...how am I supposed to enjoy blocking Guido, when you constantly quote his posts. Lmao!!!!

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For those that do not understand how things progress in the NFL preseason, the defense is always more prevalent due to the complexity of offense and the timing involved. Do not make the mistake to judge either unit or individual after only four practices.

He says Defense gets going before the Offense...
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I was listening to NFL Radio's Press Coverage with Vic Carucci and Dan Leberfeld this morning. They were talking about the press's coverage of training camps and some of the mistakes that some of the fans make when consuming that information. One thing they keyed in on in particular ... interceptions. Leberfeld said that too many fans read far too much into interceptions thrown during training camp practices. He said those interceptions are expected because the good QB's are going to be pressing the limits with each receiver to see how far they can go with their throw. They want to figure out to what point a thrown ball exceeds that receiver's ability to win that battle with the defender. He said a mistake that some young, inexperienced QB's make in these practices is that they worry too much about throwing that pick that they never get to that extreme point of trust with the receiver. They are worried about what some members of the media and/or the fans are going to say about those picks. They fail to understand that the time to "get on the same page" with your receivers is in the preseason or during practices ... not during games.

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Winston/Hill whoever doesn’t really matter. Not everything is unicorns and rainbows when it comes to Brees. You selectively post anything you can find as long as it fits your opinion. You asked for a reliable source and there it is, I didn’t just copy and paste the parts that support my opinions like you do.
I for one don’t care who our starting QB is. We have a very legit chance of making it to the Super Bowl with the amount of talent and depth we have on both sides of the ball.
So what happened to "That is all"? Keep climbing down that rabbit hole, my friend. By the way, nothing in that article supported your opinions. No where did it mention that Brees was struggling, or that Winston was "by far" the best performing QB in camp, or that Winston will be the starting QB by week 4 because the offensive line has given up on Brees. All three are things that you declared in this thread with the first two being things you claimed to have heard or read with no forthcoming support whatsoever.

Every year you make outlandish projections about individual players and how you expect them to fail. It appears you have targeted Brees this season and no amount of facts will stand in your way.



Tell you what, $20 says that Winston will not take over as starter for a benched Drew Brees this season. Whatcha say, my friend?

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