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I agree with quality over quantity, especially when it comes to drafting. As for the cap numbers, this is an area of the game that gives me almost as much interest as the game on the field. Not quite, but to me is far more interesting than personnel acquisition or roster structure as some of my other friends here enjoy far than myself. You can not look at future cap numbers as locked in stone. I'm sure you know that, already. There is currently $181 million on the books in base salaries for the 2021 season. The vast majority of that is subject to restructure. I pointed out earlier the accounting logic behind kicking that can and this is a huge hunk of can that can be kicked. There is an additional $11 million plus in roster bonuses that can be converted instantly without any input from the player.

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All part of the dance.

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hmmm, my understanding is DB#9 has a contract in place with CBSSports, contingent on only one more year of football. As far as him continuing to play, based on the immediate past, which have shown a marked decrease in arm strength, I’m not sure the best scenario is to continue watching him play into his mid 40’s. He’s now very little more than an extremely accurate dink & dunk, extremely cerebral QB, and imho, that can only go so far.

Everybody who makes a post here will see me give them due respect for their opinions and time, especially if they differ from mine. Including spkb. Trust me, if I were toxic and chose a side, belittling others, I might just have had some issues with quite a few of your posts! lol. But differences are what makes the world a better place. I’m grateful you’re around, I’m also grateful for him/her, even trolls (and I’m not making that case) May, just May, have hidden nuggets of truth inside their posts. I can see them.

Edit: Replace CBSSports with NBC.

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Absolutely. There’s no mention of the haul that it would take to pry him away. You never know what kind of ridiculous offer you might get.

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Deonte Harris/Ty lets see what you got I guess

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Bottom line is I’ve always liked the young man and hope to see him back in black and gold. When healthy he’s a very dynamic piece of the puzzle.

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Nope. I believe you are mistaken there. The contract is not contingent on only one more year of football and it is with NBC. As far as I know it is open as far as a starting date dependent upon when he chooses to retire. He has said recently that he will approach the coming off-season in the same manner as he has the last several. That's why the contract is front end flexible. NBC was willing to do it to get a jump on ESPN who were interested in Brees post-career, as well.

As for arm strength, you may have missed some recent articles posted here on the off-season training Brees had working with his throwing coach, Tom House, and how they addressed any concerns with arm strength. It appears to being paying off with many commenting about the additional zip they are seeing on his ball and his accuracy downfield thus far in camp.

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What the actual F***?

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And he wants to be here, as well. As I mentioned earlier, all part of the dance.

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I read your articles posted on arm strength, trust me, I read more than I speak, a lot more. And I made the edit in the post, it was in error. Simple mistake, memory isn’t as young as I would prefer, lol.

Wrt his arm strength, he’s only that strong under ideal circumstances. Take off the red jersey, have two 6’5” behemoths defenders chasing him down, and then let me see what he can do. Bottom line is there is a reason that Taysom comes into the game when a deep throw is necessary. Until that dynamic changes, I’ll tend to agree with the HC in that DB#9 is unable to regularly throw the deep ball.

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There's more to performing at an elite level as a QB than throwing the deep ball regularly, no? As long as Brees wants to play he's got the starting job with the Saints. That is the special dynamic that is Gayle Benson/Mickey Loomis/Drew Brees.

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Trade him.

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We have enough firepower without Kamara.

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$1 Guido

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In reference to what, 1976?

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You wanted to bet someone. I’ll bet we trade Kamara. Just for fun!

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You got it! You can pay me off over a beer.

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DEAL :bng:

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Winner has to buy the first round.

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AK will be back at practice on tomorrow.

Relax.

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Looks like Kamara is going to practice tomorrow. He was out due to an epidural steroid shot in his back. I was NOT a fan of that shot.

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Epidural?

By his own physician or team doctors?

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I’m not sure on that one.

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Yep I get L1-L2 and L2-L3 infusion every 60-75 days ... Hate riding that steroid train but helps with QOL.

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Give it another 5 or 10 years and I think the treatment for neurological issues will be far better and more advanced. You might have to get that Neuralink chip from Elon Musk though.

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I'm all for trading him and picking up LF. All for it. Kamara is a gadget(scat) back that has to have a big hole to run between tackles, LF can make his own hole, smashing and gashing. LF is the perfect back with Murray to beat a D into submission.Ground game well over 125 yds per game. Ground and pound with most opposing D's playing the passing game now days would be the way to go, and totally take pressure of of Brees, oh, we have the O-line to do it with to.

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Uhh....no thanks. Fournette hasn't been impressive since his rookie season. His numbers are due to volume and nothing else. AK is light years better in this offense.

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How long were you in pain after you had it? Did it fix the issue?

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I've had plenty of those. Not fun.

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I get C6-C7 ESI's (Epidural Steriod Injections)as needed about three times a year. Also get radio frequency ablation (RF's) bilaterally of the facet joints C4-C7 twice a year. Those are far more invasive, but work far better for the problems there.

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I stayed in near debilitating pain for another 2 weeks after the shot. I couldn’t really walk for 2 weeks prior to the shot, so I was down for over a month total. I’ve had a sort of numb feeling in big toe eversince. I couldn’t sleep. Went from 190 lbs to 170 lbs because I lost my appetite. It didn’t go away until my sister in law gave me roxicodone. I refuse to take medicine, but I was desperate. I finally started being able to sleep and the pain went from debilitating to just my normal back pain I’ve been dealing with since I was 18. That’s when I realized it can be extremely easy to get addicted to pills if you’re always in pain.

I’m rambling. But I work in x-ray so I’ve run the c-arm in thousands of those procedures. Results are a mixed bag. Some people get relief for months, some don’t really get any at all.

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I pounded this idea during the draft and people thought I was crazy. He was hurt last year, and you could tell. If the saints get 3 more years at a high level they'll be fortunate. He is amazing, but the pounding( not the same as Drew was taking this offseason) will take its toll on anyone.

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We have to worry about Lattimore and Ram, and they are more important.

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By his own admission, he recently said the injury was very serious. So, you have a legitimate point wrt that knee’s health. Not to mention there is significant history with that knee going all the way back to his redshirted freshman year attending Alabama, which required arthroscopic surgery, LCL tear iirc. And additional damage, missing games while at Tenn.

Just like DB#9’s arm, I want to see Kamara’s knee in action, and hold up repeatedly to the rigors of the game. If the deep ball play is called and Payton habitually brings in Taysom, then that’s the proof in the pudding, regardless of what any forumite here may state. Same for Kamara’s knee..., in all truthiness the fact that he’s already needing an epidural steroid injection worries me quite a bit wrt his “overall” health, I keep in mind that I’m not a fly on the wall there, so I know nothing truly about what’s going on in Kamara world. I’ll withhold judgement on that until the play on the field is shown. Play on the field..., the only thing that matters.

Regardless of what happens, or him staying/going, I like the young man. I’ve never read a story that spoke of him in anything other than a positive light. We’ve all made mistakes, and I hope he is healthy and successful wherever he roams. Preferably staying, lol.

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It never ceases to amaze me how quickly misinformation spreads across the internet. So much of it is based upon blogs containing "what if" scenarios due to the lack of real news. They are immediately interpreted by a lazy portion of readers as based in fact who immediately share with like thinking friends or, even worse, embellish it more with their own interpretation. Remember the game in class where one person whispered a designated message in the second person's ear and it is passed throughout the room the same way? Remember that result?

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I think rezburna can verify this, but I am fairly sure that ESI's are not that uncommon in athletes. I do know that they require obtaining from vigorous activities for a short period (a day or two at least) following the procedure ... and for some of the worried few out there, the last I heard was they do not lead to being traded. :D