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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Beastmode I still find it funny you are trying to speak for your deceased father like you served in the military. You did not serve. You are not your father or anyone else in your family who ...

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Old 09-08-2020, 10:33 PM   #51
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Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year

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I still find it funny you are trying to speak for your deceased father like you served in the military. You did not serve. You are not your father or anyone else in your family who served.


Live on your own merits and leave them out of it. You are a disgrace and what is wrong with this country. As a distinguished Veteran myself I feel sorry for the soul of your father or anyone who speaks for the dead for that matter.
Sorry. I don't care what you say or think. You just run along and boycott your little NFL games. The fact that you keep coming around here is confusing. What is it you are trying to accomplish? You and your little group of friends are more than welcome to have your little NFL boycott protest.

Enjoy!!

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Old 09-08-2020, 10:36 PM   #52
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Interesting take. My two leagues shutdown because of BLM specifically. Not the virus.

You still have not answered the question though. With your access to the emotions of the majority of the league as you stated, what is your take on ratings. I would be fascinated by their take on the current circumstances and the acceptable level of loss viewership of the NFL. What can they stomach before they have to re-bend their brand which they have already done. Kap not cool losing money. Bye bye. Kap cool again. We will see.
Don't you know that he knows everything, sees everything and has done everything? That his guesses are infallible because he is infallible?

Honestly beast, you're wasting your time going back and forth with him, he'll never see things your way. Even if you turn out to be right, he'll put some spin on it then jam his fingers in his ears when you attempt to come at him with logic and/or facts. There is nothing to be derived from an argument with him except frustration.
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Old 09-08-2020, 10:51 PM   #53
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Don't you know that he knows everything, sees everything and has done everything? That his guesses are infallible because he is infallible?

Honestly beast, you're wasting your time going back and forth with him, he'll never see things your way. Even if you turn out to be right, he'll put some spin on it then jam his fingers in his ears when you attempt to come at him with logic and/or facts. There is nothing to be derived from an argument with him except frustration.


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Old 09-09-2020, 12:41 AM   #54
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It is a waste of time. Even if this endzone word worked and eradicated racism once and for all it still does not solve what is going on in Chicago which is black on black cold blooded murder. It far exceeds anything else in regard to lives mattering so WTF are we having a discussion about.
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Old 09-09-2020, 02:40 AM   #55
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I don't care what they stencil on the field as long as football is being played. Racial bigotry and violence do need to end. People need to stop killing each other because of race, religion, wealth, etc...

If the goal however is for people to never see race or... I will phrase it a different way.

If the goal is to remove collectivism and tribalism from humanity then someone has unrealistic goals and desperately needs to manage their expectations. Those two things are ingrained in our DNA; religious factions, political party's, Ford vs Chevy, men's clubs, women's clubs, Seniors clubs, sports clubs.. I can go on for days listing how humans collect in the name of _____ and favor their own collectives.

Being a Saints fan is a collective and we favor our own over Falcons fans.... Yes, how you feel about Falcons fans is no different than racism. Rivalry is just more socially acceptable in certain formats than others.

Stop the kumbaya sh1t and lets talk real human behaviors.

Black vs white/white vs black racism is objectively distinction without difference. It is real but has no exclusivity.

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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Old 09-09-2020, 09:52 AM   #56
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I don't care what they stencil on the field as long as football is being played. Racial bigotry and violence do need to end. People need to stop killing each other because of race, religion, wealth, etc...

If the goal however is for people to never see race or... I will phrase it a different way.

If the goal is to remove collectivism and tribalism from humanity then someone has unrealistic goals and desperately needs to manage their expectations. Those two things are ingrained in our DNA; religious factions, political party's, Ford vs Chevy, men's clubs, women's clubs, Seniors clubs, sports clubs.. I can go on for days listing how humans collect in the name of _____ and favor their own collectives.

Being a Saints fan is a collective and we favor our own over Falcons fans.... Yes, how you feel about Falcons fans is no different than racism. Rivalry is just more socially acceptable in certain formats than others.

Stop the kumbaya sh1t and lets talk real human behaviors.

Black vs white/white vs black racism is objectively distinction without difference. It is real but has no exclusivity.
This is true, and it's why America should be appreciated for what it is. There is no other country that is as diverse and as successful. Despite our differences of race, religion and politics we have come together because of our values. Unfortunately, those values are being attacked and have been for the last 40 years-- progressive secular ideology is the internal enemy. The Roman Empire wasn't destroyed by some outside force, it rotted away from the inside and consumed itself.

This is a football forum, but I won't concede political views and discussions any longer. I now take the same approach with all aspects of life, friends, workplace etc...

Just remember, it's okay for someone to disagree with you. Have a honest discussion based on the facts of your position, and if people disagree, that's okay it doesn't make them a bad person.
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Old 09-09-2020, 03:12 PM   #57
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Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year

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I don't care what they stencil on the field as long as football is being played. Racial bigotry and violence do need to end. People need to stop killing each other because of race, religion, wealth, etc...

If the goal however is for people to never see race or... I will phrase it a different way.

If the goal is to remove collectivism and tribalism from humanity then someone has unrealistic goals and desperately needs to manage their expectations. Those two things are ingrained in our DNA; religious factions, political party's, Ford vs Chevy, men's clubs, women's clubs, Seniors clubs, sports clubs.. I can go on for days listing how humans collect in the name of _____ and favor their own collectives.

Being a Saints fan is a collective and we favor our own over Falcons fans.... Yes, how you feel about Falcons fans is no different than racism. Rivalry is just more socially acceptable in certain formats than others.

Stop the kumbaya sh1t and lets talk real human behaviors.

Black vs white/white vs black racism is objectively distinction without difference. It is real but has no exclusivity.
I totally agree that bigotry should not be tolerated in any form. Will this movement make the black race stop being racist against whites?

Here's another thought if Black Lives Matter why are there so many black on black killings that no one seems to care about? It's an honest question. We all know more blacks kill blacks that police officers do. But no one cares about that. Why?
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ESPN went political and ratings tanked.
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Old 09-09-2020, 05:49 PM   #59
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END RACISIM on end Zone. END RIOTS On the other.
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Old 09-10-2020, 02:39 AM   #60
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This is true, and it's why America should be appreciated for what it is. There is no other country that is as diverse and as successful. Despite our differences of race, religion and politics we have come together because of our values. Unfortunately, those values are being attacked and have been for the last 40 years-- progressive secular ideology is the internal enemy. The Roman Empire wasn't destroyed by some outside force, it rotted away from the inside and consumed itself.

This is a football forum, but I won't concede political views and discussions any longer. I now take the same approach with all aspects of life, friends, workplace etc...

Just remember, it's okay for someone to disagree with you. Have a honest discussion based on the facts of your position, and if people disagree, that's okay it doesn't make them a bad person.
Maybe it is age, maybe it is the fact that I have lived in Houston for over a decade and this city is so diverse that black/white doesn't show on the radar as much. Black/white tension gets diluted in the grand scheme of things as there is also mexican/asian, black/mexican, mexican/white, issues. Quanell X tries to drive his race wagon though morning television on weekends but it falls on mostly deaf ears.

When my daughters visit with friends or we go to parent teacher night what is visually obvious is that we are the white minority in those settings. They don't see race and i am very proud of that.

They get tired of my dad-isms but there is one in particular that I drum into their heads regularly. 'Learn to discuss religion without being religious, politics without being political, and race with out being racist; and just because you don't care for song doesn't mean that it isn't good music.' (they are both very musical and they get it)
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