Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year

Danno · 09-10-2020, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You'll find out when you watch the games. If you don't have enough willpower to avoid the forum you certainly don't have enough willpower to boycott watching the games.

I'm hoping the NFL changes their tune and realizes how much they F'd up.
I loved the game for 40 plus years. Now its not so enjoyable.

Its also kinda sad that people I've conversed with for probably 20 plus years on this site apparently don't care that some of our players are wearing the name of a rapist on their helmets.

I used to agree with you about 99% of the time before the woke era. Now its rare you and I agree about anything anymore.

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2020, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm hoping the NFL changes their tune and realizes how much they F'd up.
I loved the game for 40 plus years. Now its not so enjoyable.

Its also kinda sad that people I've conversed with for probably 20 plus years on this site apparently don't care that some of our players are wearing the name of a rapist on their helmets.

I used to agree with you about 99% of the time before the woke era. Now its rare you and I agree about anything anymore.

And who was this rapist to whom you are referring? You might want to do a little fact checking, Danno.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-10-2020, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Will they paint END RAPE in one of the end zones? Or will that piss off our players?

It’ll piss Big Ben off

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2020, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

It’ll piss Big Ben off

Hope so! I have him going in my big money league. LOL!!

Lord_Saint83 · 09-10-2020, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Hope so! I have him going in my big money league. LOL!!

You think that elbow gonna hold up?

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2020, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

You think that elbow gonna hold up?

From what I have heard from those in the know his elbow is healthier than it has been in years. He has played the last several years with a problem in that elbow but had never addressed it medically. It finally gave way and he had to have it fixed for good. From everything I am hearing is for the first time in years he is not experiencing any pain in the elbow when throwing. You are familiar with the Tommy John procedure, right? Those pitchers and others that come back from the surgery have said and shown that their arm is stronger than ever.

I'm full in on Big Ben this season.

Danno · 09-10-2020, 02:52 PM

The police union that represents the Kenosha Police Department said that police responded to the scene where Jacob Blake was ultimately shot because he violated a restraining order related to a sexual assault.

The cops involved in Blake's shooting were there to arrest Blake for violating a restraining order stemming from a sexual assault claim, according to the New York Post.

A 911 call Aug. 23 alerted them that Blake, 29, was at the home of his alleged victim. The officers on the scene knew he had an open warrant for felony sexual assault, according to dispatch records and the Kenosha Professional Police Association.

Police filed charges against him for felony sexual assault, trespassing and domestic abuse in July when the warrant was issued for his arrest.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...rt/ar-BB18vjYY

Blake was already wanted on charges in connection with the rape and domestic abuse of the same woman in May.

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/jacob-b...-hospital-bed/

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2020, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Yup. It appears he isn't an upstanding citizen. But, while he did have an arrest warrant for sexual assault he has yet to be convicted. So, I will give you that they had the name of what appears to be a bad guy on their helmets.

Now you said that "some of our players are wearing the name of a rapist on their helmets". This is not quite correct. None of our players are "wearing the name" on their helmets. ALL of our players wore the same name on their helmets ONE day of practice. Several NFL teams skipped practice that day. The Saints, as a team, voted to display the name on each of their helmets ... as a team ... not individually ... instead of missing practice. I've heard some say the guy was a child rapist. Not true. He is accused of the sexual assault of an adult female that he knew as you pointed out in the report. I've heard some say he is a felon. Not true. He apparently has no felony convictions ... yet, anyway.

I can see where you could be upset, but all the whole team was doing was trying to make a gesture to bring attention to the inequalities. A gesture different than kneeling. They were not "glorifying" the man. They were trying to shine a light on the situation.

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2020, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

The police union that represents the Kenosha Police Department said that police responded to the scene where Jacob Blake was ultimately shot because he violated a restraining order related to a sexual assault.

The cops involved in Blake's shooting were there to arrest Blake for violating a restraining order stemming from a sexual assault claim, according to the New York Post.

A 911 call Aug. 23 alerted them that Blake, 29, was at the home of his alleged victim. The officers on the scene knew he had an open warrant for felony sexual assault, according to dispatch records and the Kenosha Professional Police Association.

Police filed charges against him for felony sexual assault, trespassing and domestic abuse in July when the warrant was issued for his arrest.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...rt/ar-BB18vjYY

Blake was already wanted on charges in connection with the rape and domestic abuse of the same woman in May.

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/jacob-b...-hospital-bed/

All of this is accurate, Danno. He may indeed be eventually convicted of sexual assault. He deserved to be arrested for the crimes of which he is accused. Absolutely. The question is did he have to be shot in the back seven times to achieve that goal? That is why his name is out there. It has nothing to do with making him a hero. That isn't what the Saints players, or any others are doing. They are just asking that question.

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2020, 03:44 PM

One more thing to take into consideration, Danno. Much of the information concerning Jacob Blake's recent legal issues weren't not common knowledge at the point in time that NFL teams were reacting. Given a little more lead time they may have come to a different decision on wearing the name tags.

We are too quick to judge. We are willing to throw away something we love at the jerk of a knee.

09-10-2020, 02:37 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You'll find out when you watch the games. If you don't have enough willpower to avoid the forum you certainly don't have enough willpower to boycott watching the games. I'm hoping the NFL changes their tune and realizes how much they F'd up. I loved the game for 40 plus years. Now its not so enjoyable. Its also kinda sad that people I've conversed with for probably 20 plus years on this site apparently don't care that some of our players are wearing the name of a rapist on their helmets. I used to agree with you about 99% of the time before the woke era. Now its rare you and I agree about anything anymore. jeanpierre, gosaints1 and Flipx99 like this.

09-10-2020, 02:45 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year Originally Posted by Danno I'm hoping the NFL changes their tune and realizes how much they F'd up. I loved the game for 40 plus years. Now its not so enjoyable. Its also kinda sad that people I've conversed with for probably 20 plus years on this site apparently don't care that some of our players are wearing the name of a rapist on their helmets. I used to agree with you about 99% of the time before the woke era. Now its rare you and I agree about anything anymore. And who was this rapist to whom you are referring? You might want to do a little fact checking, Danno.

09-10-2020, 05:11 PM	#3
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year Originally Posted by Danno Will they paint END RAPE in one of the end zones? Or will that piss off our players? It’ll piss Big Ben off AsylumGuido, Beastmode and K Major like this.

09-10-2020, 05:16 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 It’ll piss Big Ben off Hope so! I have him going in my big money league. LOL!!

09-10-2020, 05:25 PM	#5
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Hope so! I have him going in my big money league. LOL!! You think that elbow gonna hold up?

09-10-2020, 05:42 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 You think that elbow gonna hold up? From what I have heard from those in the know his elbow is healthier than it has been in years. He has played the last several years with a problem in that elbow but had never addressed it medically. It finally gave way and he had to have it fixed for good. From everything I am hearing is for the first time in years he is not experiencing any pain in the elbow when throwing. You are familiar with the Tommy John procedure, right? Those pitchers and others that come back from the surgery have said and shown that their arm is stronger than ever. I'm full in on Big Ben this season.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

09-10-2020, 02:52 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year The police union that represents the Kenosha Police Department said that police responded to the scene where Jacob Blake was ultimately shot because he violated a restraining order related to a sexual assault. The cops involved in Blake's shooting were there to arrest Blake for violating a restraining order stemming from a sexual assault claim, according to the New York Post. A 911 call Aug. 23 alerted them that Blake, 29, was at the home of his alleged victim. The officers on the scene knew he had an open warrant for felony sexual assault, according to dispatch records and the Kenosha Professional Police Association. Police filed charges against him for felony sexual assault, trespassing and domestic abuse in July when the warrant was issued for his arrest. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...rt/ar-BB18vjYY Blake was already wanted on charges in connection with the rape and domestic abuse of the same woman in May. https://bluelivesmatter.blue/jacob-b...-hospital-bed/

09-10-2020, 03:08 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year Originally Posted by Danno Yup. It appears he isn't an upstanding citizen. But, while he did have an arrest warrant for sexual assault he has yet to be convicted. So, I will give you that they had the name of what appears to be a bad guy on their helmets. Now you said that "some of our players are wearing the name of a rapist on their helmets". This is not quite correct. None of our players are "wearing the name" on their helmets. ALL of our players wore the same name on their helmets ONE day of practice. Several NFL teams skipped practice that day. The Saints, as a team, voted to display the name on each of their helmets ... as a team ... not individually ... instead of missing practice. I've heard some say the guy was a child rapist. Not true. He is accused of the sexual assault of an adult female that he knew as you pointed out in the report. I've heard some say he is a felon. Not true. He apparently has no felony convictions ... yet, anyway. I can see where you could be upset, but all the whole team was doing was trying to make a gesture to bring attention to the inequalities. A gesture different than kneeling. They were not "glorifying" the man. They were trying to shine a light on the situation.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

09-10-2020, 03:14 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year Originally Posted by Danno The police union that represents the Kenosha Police Department said that police responded to the scene where Jacob Blake was ultimately shot because he violated a restraining order related to a sexual assault. The cops involved in Blake's shooting were there to arrest Blake for violating a restraining order stemming from a sexual assault claim, according to the New York Post. A 911 call Aug. 23 alerted them that Blake, 29, was at the home of his alleged victim. The officers on the scene knew he had an open warrant for felony sexual assault, according to dispatch records and the Kenosha Professional Police Association. Police filed charges against him for felony sexual assault, trespassing and domestic abuse in July when the warrant was issued for his arrest. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...rt/ar-BB18vjYY Blake was already wanted on charges in connection with the rape and domestic abuse of the same woman in May. https://bluelivesmatter.blue/jacob-b...-hospital-bed/ All of this is accurate, Danno. He may indeed be eventually convicted of sexual assault. He deserved to be arrested for the crimes of which he is accused. Absolutely. The question is did he have to be shot in the back seven times to achieve that goal? That is why his name is out there. It has nothing to do with making him a hero. That isn't what the Saints players, or any others are doing. They are just asking that question.

09-10-2020, 03:44 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year One more thing to take into consideration, Danno. Much of the information concerning Jacob Blake's recent legal issues weren't not common knowledge at the point in time that NFL teams were reacting. Given a little more lead time they may have come to a different decision on wearing the name tags. We are too quick to judge. We are willing to throw away something we love at the jerk of a knee.