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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I totally agree that bigotry should not be tolerated in any form. Will this movement make the black race stop being racist against whites? Here's another thought if Black Lives Matter why are there ...
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09-10-2020, 02:46 AM | #61 |
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Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II
There are people that profit off of the attention and as long as you are willing to stand on a side, they get paid.
I am a married man Rugby, I learned a long time ago that you cant have peace by trying to win all of the little battles. |
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09-10-2020, 07:30 AM | #62 |
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Amen, Oak. I stopped trying to win any of them. 32 years this November.
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I am jumping in.
No politics though. I get along with AGuido and really, everybody else here. Well, there is one person I don't like and I stay clear of. I have met some people here and have really been able to know some of them. To AGuido, I see your point about if a small group of 6 here don't want to watch, so what. NFL is going on. Yes those few fans keep posting here and looking and are still interested in their fav team and NFL football. It is a hard habit to break. It is easier to give up a fav food or drink during Lent than to put down your football team. I understand their point. Many people feel this way. Many people are going through a lot of stuff: work , less work, kids on line school, loss of fam and friends from the Covid plaque, not seeing fam and friends for big gatherings , postponing and canceled events , and if their cities have been rioted and looted, too much. What people here mean about not watching the games or cannot follow the team, is that is just too much of other stuff to look at and listen to instead of football You just want a dam two hours to enjoy a football game about football . You don't want to think or hear about : politics, Democrats, Republicans, racism, sexism, ageism, nepotism, Black Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, All Lives Matter, messages in the end zone on the turf, Covid virus, unemployment, the election, school on line or in the buildings, etc. You don’t want to hear commentators talking about how and why and who is : sitting, kneeling, saluting, whatever. You don’t want to see them showing you news clips of these things. You don’t want to see names on helmets other than Riddell, lol, the helmet maker , and the team logo. Many of us are or know people effected by : Covid plaque, school, different employment right how, and so much. You just are, were looking forward to watch a game and escape in your head for two dam hours without seeing and hearing things other than football. The NFL has given players times to support causes. Any cause. Decorate their cleats. Donate their own money to whatever charity for each down or a td, and so on. Auction off their cleats with proceeds going to whatever charity the players choose. October, the whole league supports Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Players and fans Go Pink. Wear a pink jersey. League gives free pink , fan cheer towels. All kinds of things. BCA Month is personal to many players and that is something that can effect half of the population. We Support Our Veterans month or is it a week is something the league does , but that's different. NFL, you just need to escape with some food, family, friends, strangers you sit next to at the stadium, restaurant, people on line at fan sites, etc. and enjoy a game for two hours. Fantasy football is a harmless, fun, hobby to escape to and see if you picked right that week. You have to watch the games though. Football, sports in general, but I will stick to football since we are a football site, is something that brings people together. Old young, rich, poor, any ethnic group, both genders, any job or career path, religion, region, and more are brought together by cheering for their favorite team and the whole sport. A lot of people are just getting turned off right from sports and are turning it off. It is just too heavy. It is not what you want to see. It is not CNN or Fox News, but might as well be. Too much on your psychy. Not enjoyable. |
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Re: Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year
Will they paint END RAPE in one of the end zones? Or will that piss off our players?
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
I'm hoping the NFL changes their tune and realizes how much they F'd up.
I loved the game for 40 plus years. Now its not so enjoyable. Its also kinda sad that people I've conversed with for probably 20 plus years on this site apparently don't care that some of our players are wearing the name of a rapist on their helmets. I used to agree with you about 99% of the time before the woke era. Now its rare you and I agree about anything anymore. |
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And who was this rapist to whom you are referring? You might want to do a little fact checking, Danno.
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The police union that represents the Kenosha Police Department said that police responded to the scene where Jacob Blake was ultimately shot because he violated a restraining order related to a sexual assault. The cops involved in Blake's shooting were there to arrest Blake for violating a restraining order stemming from a sexual assault claim, according to the New York Post. A 911 call Aug. 23 alerted them that Blake, 29, was at the home of his alleged victim. The officers on the scene knew he had an open warrant for felony sexual assault, according to dispatch records and the Kenosha Professional Police Association. Police filed charges against him for felony sexual assault, trespassing and domestic abuse in July when the warrant was issued for his arrest. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...rt/ar-BB18vjYY Blake was already wanted on charges in connection with the rape and domestic abuse of the same woman in May. https://bluelivesmatter.blue/jacob-b...-hospital-bed/ |
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Yup. It appears he isn't an upstanding citizen. But, while he did have an arrest warrant for sexual assault he has yet to be convicted. So, I will give you that they had the name of what appears to be a bad guy on their helmets.
Now you said that "some of our players are wearing the name of a rapist on their helmets". This is not quite correct. None of our players are "wearing the name" on their helmets. ALL of our players wore the same name on their helmets ONE day of practice. Several NFL teams skipped practice that day. The Saints, as a team, voted to display the name on each of their helmets ... as a team ... not individually ... instead of missing practice. I've heard some say the guy was a child rapist. Not true. He is accused of the sexual assault of an adult female that he knew as you pointed out in the report. I've heard some say he is a felon. Not true. He apparently has no felony convictions ... yet, anyway. I can see where you could be upset, but all the whole team was doing was trying to make a gesture to bring attention to the inequalities. A gesture different than kneeling. They were not "glorifying" the man. They were trying to shine a light on the situation. |
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Originally Posted by Danno
All of this is accurate, Danno. He may indeed be eventually convicted of sexual assault. He deserved to be arrested for the crimes of which he is accused. Absolutely. The question is did he have to be shot in the back seven times to achieve that goal? That is why his name is out there. It has nothing to do with making him a hero. That isn't what the Saints players, or any others are doing. They are just asking that question.
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