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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Refs did no favors in quickly allowing Raiders the benefit of every flag when opportunity arose. I get the idea if the 1 TD and 1 Fumble/Reception for Raiders happened to the Saints, both would of been incomplete and it ...

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Old 09-21-2020, 10:45 PM   #1
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Feel cheated

Refs did no favors in quickly allowing Raiders the benefit of every flag when opportunity arose.

I get the idea if the 1 TD and 1 Fumble/Reception for Raiders happened to the Saints, both would of been incomplete and it would of been a fumble.

Some of the Saints blunders just added to the problem that they wasnt going to let Raiders lose that in the home opener of a 1.9 Billion dollar stadium.

Repeat, 1.9 Billion dollar stadium.
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:48 PM   #2
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Nah...this is solely on the Saints. All those penalties were legit. The team just has to player better...period.
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:51 PM   #3
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Beat in all facets. Clearly outmatched tonight, coaching included. This could be a call to arms.
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Saints defense looked weak. 99% of the penalties were legit. Saints ran 53 plays to the Raiders 76. That means the defense could never get of the field. Outcoached because Gruden looked at who was out and targeted those areas specifically. Uggh.
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Saints defense looked weak. 99% of the penalties were legit. Saints ran 53 plays to the Raiders 76. That means the defense could never get of the field. Outcoached because Gruden looked at who was out and targeted those areas specifically. Uggh.
And we should have done the same on offense but we couldn’t because of mistakes and poor decision when we had the ball.
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From my tv set, only Kamara and Demario showed up tonight.

Terrible performances from Brees (very inaccurate), Jenkins (Malcolm), Jack Rabbit, Cam, Sean Payton and Dennis Allen.

Oakland were playing with a couple of backups on the O line.

No balance offensively. CSP simply refuses to play smash mouth football and feed a big back in Murray. 2 straight weeks of questionable play calling and lack of execution.

Brees can't carry this team anymore. Taysom, Winston .. something has to change in order to matriculate the ball effectively down the field.

Get it figured out.
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:17 PM   #7
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Whole team looks out of sync. I wonder if a SB was on Drew’s mind when he decided to return or was it record chasing with Brady.
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From my tv set, only Kamara and Demario showed up tonight.

Terrible performances from Brees (very inaccurate), Jenkins (Malcolm), Jack Rabbit, Cam, Sean Payton and Dennis Allen.

Oakland were playing with a couple of backups on the O line.

No balance offensively. CSP simply refuses to play smash mouth football and feed a big back in Murray. 2 straight weeks of questionable play calling and lack of execution.

Brees can't carry this team anymore. Taysom, Winston .. something has to change in order to matriculate the ball effectively down the field.

Get it figured out.
You were holding a rolled up play sheet when you wrote that I trust? The other issue is the QB isn't named "Lenny"
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:27 AM   #9
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Too many eff ups all around last nite!
Over/under thrown receivers (when they actually got open, that is!); Receivers not bothering to catch the ball before looking around;
Too much focus on trying to strip the ball instead of tackling their RB's on contact! YAC was nothing short of ridiculous;
Penalties that kept their drives alive and kept our D on the field too long;
Waller is still running away with the ball this morning! Meanwhile, Cook's only super power appears to be invisibility so far!

Beyond the 1st Quarter and the last drive, it seems like the only guys that came to play like this game even mattered were Davis (who was a predator all over the field) and Kamara (who looks like he's back in form).

Coaches have GOT to get the train back on the rails and quick or this is going to be yet another, 'also ran' season for our team.

A wise man once said, "Poo-poo smells just as bad as s#!%. One just SOUNDS cuter!"
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Old 09-22-2020, 09:46 AM   #10
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Issues in order last night

1) Penalties. The saints defense (specifically the secondary) needs to relax. There's too much panicking going on in one on one coverage. Too much grabbing and holding when the ball is in the air. It's like they believe they will get cut if they give up a big catch. I hope they know PI accomplishes the same thing as giving up the catch

2) Playcalling. Don't get me wrong, it's great watching Payton throw out 40+ player substitutions when things are clicking but when it's not just run the ball. Kamara was getting 4 to 5 yards a carry and Murray literally falls forward every time he touches the ball. Yet, Payton seems to look for reasons to abandon the run and then when those reasons aren't there he invents them.

3) Brees. This feeds a little into number 2 . I think at this point in his career it may make sense to simplify things a little bit. I think we all know Drew's arm is not what it used to be so Payton needs run the ball a lot more and allow brees to selectively go no huddle to make things a little easier for him. We all knew this day would come. The sooner we embrace it and address it head on the better.
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