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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Okay, after watching this one, the criticism is real simple... Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Only last night, it was effective at wearing down their defense of reserves, ...

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Old 09-28-2020, 03:18 PM   #381
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Okay, after watching this one, the criticism is real simple...

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Only last night, it was effective at wearing down their defense of reserves, and yet Payton pulled a General Montgomery and called off the run game...

Astute observation.

Not to beat a dead horse but I'm sure you've already seen the stat line on "running attack" last night.

Saints ran for over 154 yards in the 1st half ...

Saints ran 6 x's for 12 yards in the 2nd half .

CSP is a little too impatient perhaps? I'll piggy back off your earlier post .. "do you think Bill Bellichick gives a rats a** that the Raiders knew he was going to run it down their throats"?

If ain't broke, don't fix it. No need to get cute. Run it down their throats, keep it simple, give your defense a break and churn up clock. No need to get into shootouts with teams.

Oh well … on to Detroit .
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Old 09-28-2020, 03:32 PM   #382
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What other route could he have supposedly run? It was a 3 step drop and Brees threw it straight to him without even flinching. Pretty obvious timing pattern. It’s not like he threw the ball out there and there was no receiver.
To cut inside and not outside! Cut inside and the defender is behind him, cutting outside allowed the defender to get between him and the ball.
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Old 09-28-2020, 03:44 PM   #383
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...Not to beat a dead horse but I'm sure you've already seen the stat line on "running attack" last night.

Saints ran for over 154 yards in the 1st half ...

Saints ran 6 x's for 12 yards in the 2nd half
Beat the heck out of that horse, lol. That’s logic I understand. And what was the score at halftime? 17-13 Saints. The best way to keep GB’s offensive weapons off the field is to keep your offense on. Running game was impressive, imho, I don’t understand the abandoning of it.
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Old 09-28-2020, 04:35 PM   #384
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Eh. We’ve started out 1-2 before and made the playoffs. At least there was improvement against a very potent GB team without our number one target. Lots of work to be done but I still think it will be game 5 before we know who this team is. Hopefully it’s more than just Brees to Kamara.
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Old 09-28-2020, 04:55 PM   #385
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Have you read his draft scouting reports?
just did, only positive that shows up in the NFL is his run blocking


POSITIVES

—Scott Frost offense demanded he impact the run game as a blocker.

—Excellent jump-ball receiver who can win with high-pointing.

—Times his move on the ball well and shows natural athleticism playing above the turf.

—Has the speed to stretch the field and can run off defenders.

—Productive down the field and flashed the ability to pick up chunk plays after the catch.



NEGATIVES

—Big catch radius but struggles with drops.

—Thin frame allows press coverage to slow him down.

—Frame is maxed out and looks stiff when asked to break off routes.

—Weak through traffic and can be timid at the catch point.

—Frame and catch radius limitations might limit him to a slot role only.
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Old 09-28-2020, 04:59 PM   #386
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-The Saints run too many plays behind the line to gain specifically on third down. If you don't have 3 options past the first down marker on third down, with 10 or less to go, you are just not attacking the defense enough. You are forcing your players to make plays while allowing the defenders an advantage in stopping you.
-I like Peat. He looks to be in the best shape of his career. He's a very good guard. His value is where it is because he's equally as good if not better at tackle. His loss is big not only from a starter being lost but also from a depth perspective if TA goes down.
-I agree with all the scheme and blown coverage complaints. The Saints have the talent to man up. Simplifies everything and allows more pressure to be created. The defense is thinking too much and not attacking.
-Payton will never be a run the ball guy. Even when it's working. Even when it's a glaring weakness on the defense. That's what makes Belichick so good. He understands the other teams weaknesses. He understands his teams strengths. He is the best at making adjustments from week to week and in game.
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Old 09-28-2020, 05:01 PM   #387
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When Brees almost threw that pick and he started talking to Sanders I could see it in his face. He doesn’t believe in Brees. He had that look like bruh...if you could throw we’d be fine.
Which proves Jason Whitlock's theory. Brees has been the general of the Saints since 2006. Most players would run through a wall for him. Now you have a handful of players calling him ignorant and not even giving him the courtesy of eye contact when he talks to them.

I wish he had retired prior to this season. I'd guess that he does too.
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