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jeanpierre 09-29-2020 07:57 AM

USA Today Saints Wire | Drew Brees' Next Gen Stats passing chart spells out his problems
 

K Major 09-29-2020 10:41 AM

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I'd take more chances (throwing the post corner route) against the Lions though.

CSP must get more players involved offensively. AK can't do it all by himself.

Rsanders24 09-29-2020 10:59 AM

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Drew hasn’t been the same since he threw that interception last year in the playoffs after the big play by Taysom. He doesn’t have confidence in his arm.

Those who have watched the team play can attest to the routes down the field that have been open that he refuses to pull the trigger on. Teams are allowing deep routes with no help...one on ones and our WRs have won a lot of match ups.

gosaints1 09-29-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 898500)
Drew hasn’t been the same since he threw that interception last year in the playoffs after the big play by Taysom. He doesn’t have confidence in his arm.

Those who have watched the team play can attest to the routes down the field that have been open that he refuses to pull the trigger on. Teams are allowing deep routes with no help...one on ones and our WRs have won a lot of match ups.

Drew hasn’t been the same since 2017, imho. Anything past ten yards is painful to watch, it really is. Indecisiveness and hesitancy, and until he disproves what I’m seeing with his play, it’s my belief he should be replaced with whom the coaches think gives the team the greater chance of winning.

gosaints1 09-29-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 898450)

It’s a good article and how I’ve felt since 2017. Without CGM, it’s just become way more obvious.

K Major 09-29-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 898503)
It’s a good article and how I’ve felt since 2017. Without CGM, it’s just become way more obvious.

GoSaints1 -

What's your game plan on Sunday vs Lions ?

IMO we have to do a better job of stretching the field however Brees can no longer make those deep passes to keep defenses honest.

I find it hard to believe that Harris and Sanders weren't creating any separation to get open vs the Packers. Checking down to AK isn't gonna work effectively anymore.

Did you notice that Taysom had an open receiver (I believe it was Sanders), yet he tucked and run the ball instead ? I'd try and utilize his ability as a WR in space.

CSP will have to get very creative offensively to make things work.

Budsdrinker 09-29-2020 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 898500)
Drew hasn’t been the same since he threw that interception last year in the playoffs after the big play by Taysom. He doesn’t have confidence in his arm.

Those who have watched the team play can attest to the routes down the field that have been open that he refuses to pull the trigger on. Teams are allowing deep routes with no help...one on ones and our WRs have won a lot of match ups.

One problem with this thought, Drew didn't throw an interception after the Taysom big play. He fumbled trying to escape pressure coming from the interior
breakdown on the OL.

K Major 09-29-2020 11:28 AM

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Taysom's fumble was probably the most critical piece of that entire game. Saints had made a terrific stop on 4th at mid field and give the ball right back to them around the same spot.

To me, that was the back breaker and ball game.

I was hoping we could have gone up by 7, forcing A Rod to take more risks late.

Rugby Saint II 09-29-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 898513)
Taysom's fumble was probably the most critical piece of that entire game. Saints had made a terrific stop on 4th at mid field and give the ball right back to them around the same spot.

To me, that was the back breaker and ball game.

I was hoping we could have gone up by 7, forcing A Rod to take more risks late.

The refs were going to keep them in the game no matter what. Rodgers would have just chunked it downfield for a spot of foul penalty whenever they had the ball. Or there would be another Phantom horse collar or some ticky tack penalty on the Saints.

dizzle88 09-29-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 898529)
The refs were going to keep them in the game no matter what. Rodgers would have just chunked it downfield for a spot of foul penalty whenever they had the ball. Or there would be another Phantom horse collar or some ticky tack penalty on the Saints.

Yeah agreed. I had a feeling that despite anything we did, Rodgers would just coast downfield, with or without the refs help.

gosaints1 09-29-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 898509)
GoSaints1 -

What's your game plan on Sunday vs Lions ?

IMO we have to do a better job of stretching the field however Brees can no longer make those deep passes to keep defenses honest.

I find it hard to believe that Harris and Sanders weren't creating any separation to get open vs the Packers. Checking down to AK isn't gonna work effectively anymore.

Did you notice that Taysom had an open receiver (I believe it was Sanders), yet he tucked and run the ball instead ? I'd try and utilize his ability as a WR in space.

CSP will have to get very creative offensively to make things work.

I think most ills of this team will go away when MT#12 returns. Maybe “hidden” is a better word to use. Drew has a connection with him, even to this day, and can get him the ball quick enough. MT#12 refuses to fail, he won’t quit, #9 knows it, and will get the ball to him as often as possible. It’s EXACTLY what Waller did to us, Carr isn’t better than current #9..., he is just smart enough to let the dominant player on the field demoralize the opponent. We all saw it in our defensive player’s eyes and body language. Hands were thrown up in futility for an inability to cover him, by multiple defensive players.

wrt Detroit, it will be the exact same check-down game if CGM isn’t playing. I DO hope we power run more though. I was VERY impressed with Murray hitting the hole hard and fast, well fast for him, lol, during the first half of the GB game. Then we start getting fancy schmansy with the playcalling. Detroit is a game I expect to win regardless of injured player’s availability. Oh, speaking of speed..., did you see the McCoy’s speed call on Kamara’s 52 yard TD? lol, McCoy’s top speed was faster while blocking than Kamara’s while picking his way through defenders! That’s a good blocker, and a patient, disciplined RB! Glad to have both!

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K Major 09-29-2020 04:21 PM

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+1 on McCoy.

It only makes sense now knowing he had the fastest 40 time for any O lineman at the 2019 draft. Our guy was moving.


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