Vrillon82

Results usually show decent in regular season. But then fails in the playoffs, so far hasnt looked good the last 2 games where both teams offenses is pretty 1 dimensional.

The solution to beating Rodgers has been displayed often in the past when facing GB given the track record, some reason or another it didnt display Sunday night.

I think the defense has too much talent to fail the way it has under DA.

dizzle88

Agreed.

Spags just won a Superbowl.

We had a shot at Wade Phillips multiple times and didn't get him. Allen has never really been successful wherever he's been, not to mention he was our DB coach in his first stint and they are probably our weakest area, year after year.

Vrillon82

They have rarely bought back coaches fired in the past, Wade served under Bum and was fired later on I think.

gosaints1

S.Spagnuolo is riding the coattails of one of the most talented and electrifying players to play the game right now, quite possibly..., ever. KC’s defenses suck, the SB win is not bc of his stellar defense, that’s for sure. Very simply, KC’s offense can easily drop a 50 burger on you without batting an eye.

And Wade Phillips? lol, Please tell me we aren’t serious with this guy. Once was enough, I hope to never see him, in any capacity working in the Superdome again. He was fortunate with the players he had during his stint with the Saints back in the early 80’s. It sure wasn’t his coaching.

I’m not a huge fan of Dennis Allen, but looking back over the last few years, and our playoff exits, it wasn’t the coordinator that missed the tackles, the players were put in the proper position to make the plays and the schemes were good, for the most part.

hitta

Allen is one of those guys that are too smart for their own good. In key situations he tries things that often backfire because he's outthought himself. Sometimes it's good to just do the tried and tested thing, The irony is he's not exactly what I'd call creative either. He's the type of coach to play the odds which may seem like a contradiction to what I said above, but somehow it isn't when it comes to him. I don't think he is a bad defensive coordinator, as he was a huge upgrade from Rob Ryan. There are better coaches out there though. I wish we would have kept Spags and got him the personnel he needed. I think if Payton never gets suspended, we'd still have Spags and maybe have a couple of SBs as our defense would have been good in years in which our offense was really booming. People really underestimate how much the bountygate bull**** set us back. It screwed up many things that may not seem obvious at first glance. Without it. I think Brees has 3 titles at the very least.

MatthewT

I am not sure defensive issues can be blamed on the defensive coordinator. Look at all the defensive coordinators the Saints have had during the Payton era. Gary Gibbs, Gregg Williams, Steve Spagnuolo, Rob Ryan, and Dennis Allen. Everyone of these guys are very good coaches, what is the real issue?

K Major

Dennis Allen's scheme is trash.

He's not putting guys into position to make plays. Lose the 4-2-5 base D and bring back the 4-3 Over. 3 weeks in and we can't cover TE's. A single high safety or no safety at all and getting burned one on one. Not to mention the boot leg is absolutely killing us.

Too many high draft picks to play this poorly defensively. Elite talent still needs to be put in positions to succeed and despite specializing secondary coach + having a former DB in Glenn Allen they don't consistently succeed. Reminiscent to when the 49ers went from Mike Singletary to Jim Harbaugh with roughly the same talent.

A lot of the same concerns, different year. Our issues defensively aren't something new.

Playing better against Detroit would be a start though.

"We're a violent team & a tough team. We find ways to put ourselves in position to win. We just have to WIN". Alvin Kamara

hitta

We've switched schemes so many times that it's amazing that we have the talent that we do now.

dizzle88

As stated - too many high round draft picks to be playing this badly.

Look at the picture I added, 10 seconds into the 2nd half.

5 Saints defenders on 3 Packers receivers, we get burned for 70 yards.

PJ is responsible (shocker), hes still in his backpedal whilst Lazard is running flat out, PJ is never going to win. Obviously PJ needs to do better, but how can we as fans know that PJ is only effective the closer he is to the line, but the almighty Dennis Allen continues to put him in positions where he WILL fail!?

Thats why Dennis sucks, hes blind to certain factors. He let Waller destroy our D single handedly, no adjustments. He let Rodgers continue to roll out and launch with no pressure and all the time in the world, with shoddy secondary play already plaguing us.

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ChrisXVI

Almost makes you wonder just how much Mike Nolan helped.