Sean Payton says Saints 'looked like a high school team' defending these types of plays vs. Packers

Thirty3 · 09-30-2020, 04:27 PM

Recognize the value of full 4 game preseason?

AsylumGuido · 09-30-2020, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Recognize the value of full 4 game preseason?

Offenses across the league are scoring on a record pace. Defenses are way behind everywhere. I have heard several coaches saying that this isn't what they expected.

As for four game preseasons, they are a thing of the past. With the regular season expanding to 17 games and likely a second bye week two preseason games will be the max. If the NFLPA gets their way they could disappear completely. They would be missed less had we had OTA's and mini-camps. That was the killer.

jeanpierre · 10-01-2020, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Recognize the value of full 4 game preseason?

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Offenses across the league are scoring on a record pace. Defenses are way behind everywhere. I have heard several coaches saying that this isn't what they expected.

As for four game preseasons, they are a thing of the past. With the regular season expanding to 17 games and likely a second bye week two preseason games will be the max. If the NFLPA gets their way they could disappear completely. They would be missed less had we had OTA's and mini-camps. That was the killer.

The NFL is manipulating games and that is why scoring is up; if we were operating in an apples to apples situation, scoring would be way down...

Teams that have invested heavily in their offensive lines, like the Saints, are getting screwed because the NFL's officials are not flagging holding to the same standard as last season, previous seasons...

Also injuries are way up, and that is being looked at as a direct causation to a lack of PreSeason games...

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gosaints1 · 10-01-2020, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

The NFL is manipulating games and that is why scoring is up; if we were operating in an apples to apples situation, scoring would be way down...

Teams that have invested heavily in their offensive lines, like the Saints, are getting screwed because the NFL's officials are not flagging holding to the same standard as last season, previous seasons...

Also injuries are way up, and that is being looked at as a direct causation to a lack of PreSeason games...

https://twitter.com/SeifertESPN/stat...95448469118978

https://twitter.com/SeifertESPN/stat...97477878915072

And what better reason for the NFL to want more “shootouts”?

None other than to improve ratings. Right or wrong, I do believe there is a discrete and identifiable reason for a changing of the “standards”. Last thing the NFL wants is lot’s of 9-6 games right now.

Not trying to say ratings are a complete dumpster fire, (looking at you AG, lol, and not wanting to necro an argument that’s already been heavily debated, lol), bc ratings aren’t a complete dumpster fire, they’re still the best thing on TV, but they definitely ain’t what the NFL would like to see.

Follow the money, you’ll find what the NFL values.

Rugby Saint II · 10-01-2020, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Offenses across the league are scoring on a record pace. Defenses are way behind everywhere. I have heard several coaches saying that this isn't what they expected.

As for four game preseasons, they are a thing of the past. With the regular season expanding to 17 games and likely a second bye week two preseason games will be the max. If the NFLPA gets their way they could disappear completely. They would be missed less had we had OTA's and mini-camps. That was the killer.

I would argue that we at least need two preseason games to evaluate our players and get the timing down before we start the regular season.

K Major · 09-30-2020, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Recognize the value of full 4 game preseason?

The Chiefs, GB, Titans, Chicago & the Steelers sure don't seem to be having much trouble getting out of the gate quickly.

Most of the Saints roster was in tact, not to mention Sean and Brees have been in the system over a decade.

AsylumGuido · 09-30-2020, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The Chiefs, GB, Titans, Chicago & the Steelers sure don't seem to be having much trouble getting out of the gate quickly.

Most of the Saints roster was in tact, not to mention Sean and Brees have been in the system over a decade.

The Titans and Chicago have benefited from playing horrible competition. Chicago has played the Giants, Lions and Falcons. The Titans have squeaked by the Broncos, Jags and Vikes by a combined total of SIX points.

They were also not missing the NFC offensive player of the year if I'm not mistaken.

st thomas · 10-01-2020, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Titans and Chicago have benefited from playing horrible competition. Chicago has played the Giants, Lions and Falcons. The Titans have squeaked by the Broncos, Jags and Vikes by a combined total of SIX points.

They were also not missing the NFC offensive player of the year if I'm not mistaken.

This is what I don’t get , I hate the 49ers as much as the clowns probably more. Now getting back to scheduling . The 9ers were in the freaking Super Bowl and there 1st 5 games are to the likes of
Cardinals
Jets
Giants
Philly
Miami
Shouldn’t u get the 2nd hardest schedule in the league behind the chiefs?

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Lord_Saint83 · 09-30-2020, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Recognize the value of full 4 game preseason?

I think most of these injuries are partly due to no preseason and a short and less active otas and mini camps

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,852	Re: Sean Payton says Saints 'looked like a high school team' defending these types of plays vs. Packers Originally Posted by Thirty3 Recognize the value of full 4 game preseason? Offenses across the league are scoring on a record pace. Defenses are way behind everywhere. I have heard several coaches saying that this isn't what they expected. As for four game preseasons, they are a thing of the past. With the regular season expanding to 17 games and likely a second bye week two preseason games will be the max. If the NFLPA gets their way they could disappear completely. They would be missed less had we had OTA's and mini-camps. That was the killer.

10-01-2020, 07:49 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sean Payton says Saints 'looked like a high school team' defending these types of plays vs. Packers Originally Posted by Thirty3 Recognize the value of full 4 game preseason? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Offenses across the league are scoring on a record pace. Defenses are way behind everywhere. I have heard several coaches saying that this isn't what they expected. As for four game preseasons, they are a thing of the past. With the regular season expanding to 17 games and likely a second bye week two preseason games will be the max. If the NFLPA gets their way they could disappear completely. They would be missed less had we had OTA's and mini-camps. That was the killer. The NFL is manipulating games and that is why scoring is up; if we were operating in an apples to apples situation, scoring would be way down... Teams that have invested heavily in their offensive lines, like the Saints, are getting screwed because the NFL's officials are not flagging holding to the same standard as last season, previous seasons... Also injuries are way up, and that is being looked at as a direct causation to a lack of PreSeason games... Twitter Twitter gosaints1 likes this.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Sean Payton says Saints 'looked like a high school team' defending these types of plays vs. Packers Originally Posted by jeanpierre The NFL is manipulating games and that is why scoring is up; if we were operating in an apples to apples situation, scoring would be way down... Teams that have invested heavily in their offensive lines, like the Saints, are getting screwed because the NFL's officials are not flagging holding to the same standard as last season, previous seasons... Also injuries are way up, and that is being looked at as a direct causation to a lack of PreSeason games... https://twitter.com/SeifertESPN/stat...95448469118978 https://twitter.com/SeifertESPN/stat...97477878915072 And what better reason for the NFL to want more “shootouts”? None other than to improve ratings. Right or wrong, I do believe there is a discrete and identifiable reason for a changing of the “standards”. Last thing the NFL wants is lot’s of 9-6 games right now. Not trying to say ratings are a complete dumpster fire, (looking at you AG, lol, and not wanting to necro an argument that’s already been heavily debated, lol), bc ratings aren’t a complete dumpster fire, they’re still the best thing on TV, but they definitely ain’t what the NFL would like to see. Follow the money, you’ll find what the NFL values. iceshack149 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Sean Payton says Saints 'looked like a high school team' defending these types of plays vs. Packers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Offenses across the league are scoring on a record pace. Defenses are way behind everywhere. I have heard several coaches saying that this isn't what they expected. As for four game preseasons, they are a thing of the past. With the regular season expanding to 17 games and likely a second bye week two preseason games will be the max. If the NFLPA gets their way they could disappear completely. They would be missed less had we had OTA's and mini-camps. That was the killer. I would argue that we at least need two preseason games to evaluate our players and get the timing down before we start the regular season.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,865 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton says Saints 'looked like a high school team' defending these types of plays vs. Packers Originally Posted by Thirty3 Recognize the value of full 4 game preseason? The Chiefs, GB, Titans, Chicago & the Steelers sure don't seem to be having much trouble getting out of the gate quickly. Most of the Saints roster was in tact, not to mention Sean and Brees have been in the system over a decade. dizzle88 and gosaints1 like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,852	Re: Sean Payton says Saints 'looked like a high school team' defending these types of plays vs. Packers Originally Posted by K Major The Chiefs, GB, Titans, Chicago & the Steelers sure don't seem to be having much trouble getting out of the gate quickly. Most of the Saints roster was in tact, not to mention Sean and Brees have been in the system over a decade. The Titans and Chicago have benefited from playing horrible competition. Chicago has played the Giants, Lions and Falcons. The Titans have squeaked by the Broncos, Jags and Vikes by a combined total of SIX points. They were also not missing the NFC offensive player of the year if I'm not mistaken. st thomas likes this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Sean Payton says Saints 'looked like a high school team' defending these types of plays vs. Packers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Titans and Chicago have benefited from playing horrible competition. Chicago has played the Giants, Lions and Falcons. The Titans have squeaked by the Broncos, Jags and Vikes by a combined total of SIX points. They were also not missing the NFC offensive player of the year if I'm not mistaken. This is what I don’t get , I hate the 49ers as much as the clowns probably more. Now getting back to scheduling . The 9ers were in the freaking Super Bowl and there 1st 5 games are to the likes of Cardinals Jets Giants Philly Miami Shouldn’t u get the 2nd hardest schedule in the league behind the chiefs? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Sean Payton says Saints 'looked like a high school team' defending these types of plays vs. Packers Originally Posted by Thirty3 Recognize the value of full 4 game preseason? I think most of these injuries are partly due to no preseason and a short and less active otas and mini camps