Week 4: Saints Final Injury Report
 

Saints Friday Injury Report :bng:

Out: Michael Thomas (ankle), Jared Cook (groin), Janoris Jenkins (shoulder), Marshon Lattimore (hamstring), Andrus Peat (ankle), Marcus Davenport (elbow/toe)

https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/s...t-week-4-lions

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Could be a rough week.

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1-3.

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Man, Davenport I still believe in your talent, but youre NEVER available to show it. It hurts knowing we probably wont see him at all this season

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WHERE IS ZACK BAUN?

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No reports no nothing, no interviews,

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This'll be a damned good one to win, right! Talk about a confidence builder. It looks like a trap game for the 1-2 juggernaut Detroit Lions. Adam Trautman breaks his cherry bigtime. Latavius Murray gets the carries and Kamara mans the slot. Play your fantasy players because the game will be a shootout.

Can't wait!!

:bng:

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On special teams. The LB corps is healthy and set. Although, I can see them bring him in and adding more outside pressure.

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Been wondering the same thing.

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Yep. Currently watching from the sidelines and on special teams duty.

Kind of dumb for Zach to get no snaps at LB/pass rusher spot when Ellis is struggling, getting burned for TD's and looking out of position.

Saints have done a great job of drafting the last few years, however decisions made by coaches on who to play and sits is puzzling.

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1-3 is on the menu boys! PJ Williams and PRob starting! Poor Drew... his farewell season was never meant to be so dismal.

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Just checked. Ellis has only had five snaps on defense so far. Which of those did he get burned for TD's? I believe you, but don't remember. He had three snaps in week one and two last week at LB.

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I'm taking bets if you want to show your confidence that they'll lose.

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C'mon Crawley, C'mon Griffin, C'mon Clapp.
Step up Jordan, Tre'quan, #22 (to be named later)

Davenport WTF

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Yeah sure, why not?! How much?

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How confident are you? Looks like there is no way for the Saints to win. Give me odds straight up no points? 2:1? Small bet. Your $20 to my $10. Venmo transfer.

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I’m a moron bro... I’ve never done such a thing and I don’t know how this all works. I’ll give you odds straight up... I’ll probably have to mail you mail you a check because I don’t know s*** about Venmo :rofl:.

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Week 1 vs Tampa and last week vs GB.

Anyways, it does not matter. He's not ready.

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Worth a try, Chris. I'll teach you Venmo. If you have a checking account it is immediate. $20 AND I'll help you set up your Venmo account.

LOL!

:bng:

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He hasn't had an opportunity. In three games we have only gone FIVE snaps with three true LB's. Did you realize that? Malcolm Jenkins has been in there as LB2 often.

LB snap counts:

Demario Davis LB 212 100.00%
Alex Anzalone LB 161 75.94%
Kaden Elliss LB 5 2.36%

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Tampa game - 1st and goal at the 10, 3 TE set for Brady with the fake to RB and hits OJ Howard wide open in the back of the endzone. Ellis was caught flat footed guarding no one.

Green Bay game - 4th quarter, Saints down by 3. ARod with a naked boot leg to Robert Tonyan for 6. Again, KE responsibility.

Both missed assignments by Ellis. Not Demario, not Alex, or Jenkins.

Not sure why there was a need for you to show me snap counts when I clearly stated Kaden has been beaten for tds. TWICE IN THE REDZONE. He's not only beaten 2'x for TD's, but clearly confusion on his part on both.

Zach Baun needs to be playing in his place on those formations.

I'm on to Detroit.

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Yeah I dont feel this is going to be a fun one to watch.

5 starters out and someone took the bubble wrap off two 1sts too quickly!

PJ Williams and Patrick Robinson are going to be starting at CB, which is just a death wish in its own right.

Stafford has a good receiving core and will likely obliterate our secondary for the third straight week.

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Perhaps neither Baun or Ellis aren't up enough on the defense to be effective. Both young and no OTA's or minicamp.

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Both young, yes, very true. Ellis however, being drafted in 2019, was afforded all of last year’s full luxuries, including preseason, training camp, etc... He did play in a handful of games last season also, iirc. It shouldn’t take two years to at least not look “lost” while on the field. Bottom line, I would rather see the newly drafted rookie instead of the guy you know can’t play up to speed.

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Tbh, I think he was injured 99% of the year. I could be wrong. But I think he was placed on IR before the season or at the beginning of it.

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I think he was more of a ST player, seems to be the norm for Payton’s rookies. But, he did have 3 starts last year, can’t really tell you if ultimately wound up on IR.

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Another factor is the five total snaps on defense over the first three games. It has to be difficult to come in on two or three plays a game in crucial situations as a young player. I'd rather have a more experience player in at that moment. Perhaps Baun could have done better.

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Agreed, and fully understand. Whether “it has to be difficult to come in on two or three plays a game” is an excuse or a reason, is another argument to be had, lol. When you do get the opportunity to showcase your talent, it’s always best to start off on the right foot. It tends to quiet down any naysaying that might be happening.

Here’s hoping the young man gets on the same sheet of music as everyone else very soon. Defense is going to need everybody’s full attention, every snap of every game.

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How about playing them for more than two or three snaps a game to start with. LOL! That's Dennis Allen's call. Maybe Nolan would have had him more ready.

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One thing I will say, the offense is better without Andrus Peat and they proved that vs Packers.

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Even if you send that $20 by Pony Express I'll sure as hell take it.

:D

Who Dat, Chris!!!

:bng:

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Private message sent.

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Nolan may very well have been one heckuva position coach. But, A good argument can be made that he wasn’t responsible for any of those HOF’ers, they were going to be HOF’ers even if Daffy Duck was their position coach. It’s entirely possible I’m minimizing his impact on their careers though, to be fair. I just think special athletes (HOF types) arrive special, day one and get better as their confidence grows. As far as him being a defensive coordinator, great goobly moobly, just look at his current defense, it’s one of the worst defenses I’ve ever seen in my entire life. He may not make it through this season, rumors are already starting in Big D, and we know JJ will can a coach in an instant if he feels the replacement is better. And, imho, Daffy Duck would be better running the D in Big D right now.

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I’m not overly fond of Dennis Allen, I just don’t see the “Nolan is/would be better” argument either.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/artic...12680_33013019

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1) Dick Nolan? Having flashbacks to the mid 70’s, lol, I know who you meant, it just took a second for me to go down a non pleasant memory lane. Another former Saints LB position coach who tried his hand at a higher position, and didn’t do so well, oof some of us remember that 1980 season and the resulting fallout from historically bad teams..., hmmmm..., I wonder if the two are related.

2) For the 2020 season, not counting week 4, football outsiders has the Saints ranked at 12th overall DVOA. 6th against the run and 21st against the pass. Regardless, I’ll play devil’s advocate and use your 2020 defensive ranking web site for reference. Saints were 26th, that must be bad, and I’d agree it’s nothing to be proud of. But 26 pales in comparison to the team who is dead last on that list, oh.., and guess who would be the DC for that team? Oh..., none other than Mike Nolan. Yes..., that Mike Nolan. Right now, I would much rather have our 26 than Nolan’s 32. His defense is abysmally bad, historically bad, a failure, under his direct leadership, rarely seen, right up there with the worst defenses ever in my ½ century of life.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...m-defense/2020

3) Dennis Allen wasn’t the defensive coordinator for the 2015 season initially. Rob Ryan was the DC when the season began, that defense was his baby, it was his install, at least until he was fired (thank the Lord) mid Nov, iirc.

I’m neither defending Allen nor elevating Nolan to any degree. I’m simply evaluating each one, at one specific position which is as a DC. Bottom line is that a good position coach does not make a good defensive coordinator. And replacing one coordinator that sucks with another that sucks exponentially worse just makes no sense to me.