Luke Johnson | What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win

K Major · 10-25-2020, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/WWLAMFM/status/1320462758597439488

Bobby had valid points as it pertains to the Saints defense.

K Major · 10-25-2020, 04:06 PM

Marcus Williams is lost out there. Not just today but all season. Breakdown after breakdown.

Make a trade for a Free Safety.

Ceedy was also bad today.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2020, 04:12 PM

4-2? Feel like it? In today's atmosphere it feels like 5-1. I'm liking where we are sitting right now.

jeanpierre · 10-25-2020, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Marcus Williams is lost out there. Not just today but all season. Breakdown after breakdown.

Make a trade for a Free Safety.

Ceedy was also bad today.

We could go full-own diva-dysfunction in the locker room and bring in Earl Thomas...

It's not like this team is staying together after this season...

K Major · 10-25-2020, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We could go full-own diva-dysfunction in the locker room and bring in Earl Thomas...

It's not like this team is staying together after this season...

JP -

My quick rant

on safety play … Earl is probably not a popular choice in NO, however we need a change at Free Safety. How about the guy from the Jets Marcus Maye? Or Malik Hooker?

The lack of execution is atrocious. Four years into the system, playing in coverages he should be familiar with. You expect these mistakes from a rookie, not a 4 year starter in Dennis Allen's system. He seems to be baited on long ball after long ball continuously. A lot of those 40, 50, 60 yard bombs are coming from Marcus. He's no ball hawk and can't tackle.

Did you notice how 2 Glove Teddy walked him 5 yards off his zone to throw a deep post route

? C'mon man, that is unacceptable. For the collective amount of talent on defense, they are grossly under performing.

No reason for it, other than looking at coaches. Is it Allen, Glenn or the players? Technique, eyes, communication, Jenkins "experiment' has failed. What are they teaching in film study?

I thought Malcolm was brought in to help Marcus? What ever Dennis is asking these guys to do, they aren't executing on Sundays. Red zone defense, pass deflections are almost non existent for us.

It's gonna get ugly when the Saints face the big boys. IMO Marcus Williams needs to be benched. Why is DJ Swearinger inactive 2 weeks in a row? Activate him or make a phone call, find a trading partner at safety.

Davenport … when he plays? … a beast. Same goes for David O.

We can't expect the great Brees, AK to play perfect every week. Carolina should have been blown out today. You aren't hoisting a Lombardi with that defense.

End rant.

ChrisXVI · 10-25-2020, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

JP -

My quick rant on safety play … Earl is probably not a popular choice in NO, however we need a change at Free Safety. How about the guy from the Jets Marcus Maye? Or Malik Hooker?

The lack of execution is atrocious. Four years into the system, playing in coverages he should be familiar with. You expect these mistakes from a rookie, not a 4 year starter in Dennis Allen's system. He seems to be baited on long ball after long ball continuously. A lot of those 40, 50, 60 yard bombs are coming from Marcus. He's no ball hawk and can't tackle.

Did you notice how 2 Glove Teddy walked him 5 yards off his zone to throw a deep post route ? C'mon man, that is unacceptable. For the collective amount of talent on defense, they are grossly under performing.

No reason for it, other than looking at coaches. Is it Allen, Glenn or the players? Technique, eyes, communication, Jenkins "experiment' has failed. What are they teaching in film study?

I thought Malcolm was brought in to help Marcus? What ever Dennis is asking these guys to do, they aren't executing on Sundays. Red zone defense, pass deflections are almost non existent for us.

It's gonna get ugly when the Saints face the big boys. IMO Marcus Williams needs to be benched. Why is DJ Swearinger inactive 2 weeks in a row? Activate him or make a phone call, find a trading partner at safety.

Davenport … when he plays? … a beast. Same goes for David O.

We can't expect the great Brees, AK to play perfect every week. Carolina should have been blown out today. You aren't hoisting a Lombardi with that defense.

End rant.

Don’t see a rant from you too often brother... love it. Can’t disagree with anything you said. That’s why I suggested trading for Harrison Smith.

jeanpierre · 10-25-2020, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

JP -

My quick rant on safety play … Earl is probably not a popular choice in NO, however we need a change at Free Safety. How about the guy from the Jets Marcus Maye? Or Malik Hooker?

The lack of execution is atrocious. Four years into the system, playing in coverages he should be familiar with. You expect these mistakes from a rookie, not a 4 year starter in Dennis Allen's system. He seems to be baited on long ball after long ball continuously. A lot of those 40, 50, 60 yard bombs are coming from Marcus. He's no ball hawk and can't tackle.

Did you notice how 2 Glove Teddy walked him 5 yards off his zone to throw a deep post route ? C'mon man, that is unacceptable. For the collective amount of talent on defense, they are grossly under performing.

No reason for it, other than looking at coaches. Is it Allen, Glenn or the players? Technique, eyes, communication, Jenkins "experiment' has failed. What are they teaching in film study?

I thought Malcolm was brought in to help Marcus? What ever Dennis is asking these guys to do, they aren't executing on Sundays. Red zone defense, pass deflections are almost non existent for us.

It's gonna get ugly when the Saints face the big boys. IMO Marcus Williams needs to be benched. Why is DJ Swearinger inactive 2 weeks in a row? Activate him or make a phone call, find a trading partner at safety.

Davenport … when he plays? … a beast. Same goes for David O.

We can't expect the great Brees, AK to play perfect every week. Carolina should have been blown out today. You aren't hoisting a Lombardi with that defense.

End rant.

Hooker is injured and the Colts really like what they drafted...

But as I posted earlier, Mr. Marcus was done by default when Malcolm was brought in under the pretense of veteran leadership and maturity - it was a deep draft for safeties and we should've moved Mr. Marcus then...

Marcus, Lattimore, all have regressed in the Dennis Allen/Aaron Glenn secondary; For Mr. Marcus, I think they've made the reads way too complicated, ala Ryan, and he's taking too long to read/react...

Marcus was an elite safety and DA and Glenn, along with Sean's personnel move for Jenkins undermined Mr. Marcus as the leader of that secondary - there's more blame on Sean, DA and Glenn, than Marcus...

dizzle88 · 10-25-2020, 04:38 PM

This defense will be our undoing if something isn't shaken up.

Cam Jordan has been invisible, secondary play is atrocious, so many issues that DA said would be addressed in the bye week that looked worse.

Payton needs to start lighting a fire under all of those guys, because Lord knows DA or Aaron Glenn can't seem to motivate them.

Rugby Saint II · 10-25-2020, 04:43 PM

DA and Glenn have to do something different or we'll be in a track meet the rest of the season. I'm officially off the DA band wagon now. He's good but he can't close and we need better coaching on defense.

SaintGnome · 10-25-2020, 05:30 PM

After slow start Drew is looking better than he has in a few years. He's really going through his progressions and finding the open guy and delivering. Seemed like a lot of times recently he decided pre snap where the ball was going whether they were open or not. I know a lot of the board thinks half of our O-line is garbage but you don't have time to do that without good blocking. Teddy played a good game against us today, defense made their stops when it counts, again. That TD catch by Cook was fantastic, all of our receivers looked great. Penalties 6-1 bias showing yet again.

10-25-2020, 04:30 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Luke Johnson \| What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/WWLAMFM/status/1320462758597439488 Bobby had valid points as it pertains to the Saints defense. Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-25-2020, 04:06 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Luke Johnson \| What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win Marcus Williams is lost out there. Not just today but all season. Breakdown after breakdown. Make a trade for a Free Safety. Ceedy was also bad today. Rsanders24 and jeanpierre like this.

10-25-2020, 04:12 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Re: Luke Johnson \| What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win 4-2? Feel like it? In today's atmosphere it feels like 5-1. I'm liking where we are sitting right now.

10-25-2020, 07:31 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Luke Johnson \| What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win Originally Posted by K Major Marcus Williams is lost out there. Not just today but all season. Breakdown after breakdown. Make a trade for a Free Safety. Ceedy was also bad today. We could go full-own diva-dysfunction in the locker room and bring in Earl Thomas... It's not like this team is staying together after this season...

10-25-2020, 08:24 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Luke Johnson \| What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win Originally Posted by jeanpierre We could go full-own diva-dysfunction in the locker room and bring in Earl Thomas... It's not like this team is staying together after this season... JP - My quick rant on safety play … Earl is probably not a popular choice in NO, however we need a change at Free Safety. How about the guy from the Jets Marcus Maye? Or Malik Hooker? The lack of execution is atrocious. Four years into the system, playing in coverages he should be familiar with. You expect these mistakes from a rookie, not a 4 year starter in Dennis Allen's system. He seems to be baited on long ball after long ball continuously. A lot of those 40, 50, 60 yard bombs are coming from Marcus. He's no ball hawk and can't tackle. Did you notice how 2 Glove Teddy walked him 5 yards off his zone to throw a deep post route ? C'mon man, that is unacceptable. For the collective amount of talent on defense, they are grossly under performing. No reason for it, other than looking at coaches. Is it Allen, Glenn or the players? Technique, eyes, communication, Jenkins "experiment' has failed. What are they teaching in film study? I thought Malcolm was brought in to help Marcus? What ever Dennis is asking these guys to do, they aren't executing on Sundays. Red zone defense, pass deflections are almost non existent for us. It's gonna get ugly when the Saints face the big boys. IMO Marcus Williams needs to be benched. Why is DJ Swearinger inactive 2 weeks in a row? Activate him or make a phone call, find a trading partner at safety. Davenport … when he plays? … a beast. Same goes for David O. We can't expect the great Brees, AK to play perfect every week. Carolina should have been blown out today. You aren't hoisting a Lombardi with that defense. End rant. jnormand, jeanpierre and ChrisXVI like this.

10-25-2020, 08:27 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Luke Johnson \| What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win Originally Posted by K Major JP - My quick rant on safety play … Earl is probably not a popular choice in NO, however we need a change at Free Safety. How about the guy from the Jets Marcus Maye? Or Malik Hooker? The lack of execution is atrocious. Four years into the system, playing in coverages he should be familiar with. You expect these mistakes from a rookie, not a 4 year starter in Dennis Allen's system. He seems to be baited on long ball after long ball continuously. A lot of those 40, 50, 60 yard bombs are coming from Marcus. He's no ball hawk and can't tackle. Did you notice how 2 Glove Teddy walked him 5 yards off his zone to throw a deep post route ? C'mon man, that is unacceptable. For the collective amount of talent on defense, they are grossly under performing. No reason for it, other than looking at coaches. Is it Allen, Glenn or the players? Technique, eyes, communication, Jenkins "experiment' has failed. What are they teaching in film study? I thought Malcolm was brought in to help Marcus? What ever Dennis is asking these guys to do, they aren't executing on Sundays. Red zone defense, pass deflections are almost non existent for us. It's gonna get ugly when the Saints face the big boys. IMO Marcus Williams needs to be benched. Why is DJ Swearinger inactive 2 weeks in a row? Activate him or make a phone call, find a trading partner at safety. Davenport … when he plays? … a beast. Same goes for David O. We can't expect the great Brees, AK to play perfect every week. Carolina should have been blown out today. You aren't hoisting a Lombardi with that defense. End rant. Don’t see a rant from you too often brother... love it. Can’t disagree with anything you said. That’s why I suggested trading for Harrison Smith. jeanpierre likes this.

10-25-2020, 08:32 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Luke Johnson \| What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win Originally Posted by K Major JP - My quick rant on safety play … Earl is probably not a popular choice in NO, however we need a change at Free Safety. How about the guy from the Jets Marcus Maye? Or Malik Hooker? The lack of execution is atrocious. Four years into the system, playing in coverages he should be familiar with. You expect these mistakes from a rookie, not a 4 year starter in Dennis Allen's system. He seems to be baited on long ball after long ball continuously. A lot of those 40, 50, 60 yard bombs are coming from Marcus. He's no ball hawk and can't tackle. Did you notice how 2 Glove Teddy walked him 5 yards off his zone to throw a deep post route ? C'mon man, that is unacceptable. For the collective amount of talent on defense, they are grossly under performing. No reason for it, other than looking at coaches. Is it Allen, Glenn or the players? Technique, eyes, communication, Jenkins "experiment' has failed. What are they teaching in film study? I thought Malcolm was brought in to help Marcus? What ever Dennis is asking these guys to do, they aren't executing on Sundays. Red zone defense, pass deflections are almost non existent for us. It's gonna get ugly when the Saints face the big boys. IMO Marcus Williams needs to be benched. Why is DJ Swearinger inactive 2 weeks in a row? Activate him or make a phone call, find a trading partner at safety. Davenport … when he plays? … a beast. Same goes for David O. We can't expect the great Brees, AK to play perfect every week. Carolina should have been blown out today. You aren't hoisting a Lombardi with that defense. End rant. Hooker is injured and the Colts really like what they drafted... But as I posted earlier, Mr. Marcus was done by default when Malcolm was brought in under the pretense of veteran leadership and maturity - it was a deep draft for safeties and we should've moved Mr. Marcus then... Marcus, Lattimore, all have regressed in the Dennis Allen/Aaron Glenn secondary; For Mr. Marcus, I think they've made the reads way too complicated, ala Ryan, and he's taking too long to read/react... Marcus was an elite safety and DA and Glenn, along with Sean's personnel move for Jenkins undermined Mr. Marcus as the leader of that secondary - there's more blame on Sean, DA and Glenn, than Marcus... Thirty3 likes this.
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10-25-2020, 04:38 PM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: Luke Johnson \| What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win This defense will be our undoing if something isn't shaken up. Cam Jordan has been invisible, secondary play is atrocious, so many issues that DA said would be addressed in the bye week that looked worse. Payton needs to start lighting a fire under all of those guys, because Lord knows DA or Aaron Glenn can't seem to motivate them.

10-25-2020, 04:43 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Luke Johnson \| What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win DA and Glenn have to do something different or we'll be in a track meet the rest of the season. I'm officially off the DA band wagon now. He's good but he can't close and we need better coaching on defense.

10-25-2020, 05:30 PM	#10
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Luke Johnson \| What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win After slow start Drew is looking better than he has in a few years. He's really going through his progressions and finding the open guy and delivering. Seemed like a lot of times recently he decided pre snap where the ball was going whether they were open or not. I know a lot of the board thinks half of our O-line is garbage but you don't have time to do that without good blocking. Teddy played a good game against us today, defense made their stops when it counts, again. That TD catch by Cook was fantastic, all of our receivers looked great. Penalties 6-1 bias showing yet again.