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Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; If you're wondering why Jenkins was mediocre here then looked better in Philly to only return to look mediocre again. Or why all the talent (Latt/Janoris/CGJ) we have in the secondary isn't translating to an improved secondary. If you can't ...

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Old 10-27-2020, 10:32 AM   #1
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Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****

If you're wondering why Jenkins was mediocre here then looked better in Philly to only return to look mediocre again. Or why all the talent (Latt/Janoris/CGJ) we have in the secondary isn't translating to an improved secondary. If you can't come up with an answer, you're focusing on the wrong unit. This is a coaching and scheme issue. The obvious answer is the answer. Talented players are underperforming or regressing since their rookie (Latt/Ceedy Deuce) year.

It's NOT the players. It's what they're being asked to do.
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Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****

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If you're wondering why Jenkins was mediocre here then looked better in Philly to only return to look mediocre again. Or why all the talent (Latt/Janoris/CGJ) we have in the secondary isn't translating to an improved secondary. If you can't come up with an answer, you're focusing on the wrong unit. This is a coaching and scheme issue. The obvious answer is the answer. Talented players are underperforming or regressing since their rookie (Latt/Ceedy Deuce) year.

It's NOT the players. It's what they're being asked to do.
The players shouldn't be absolved of poor play either. For instance every time I see one of those turds going for a highlight shoulder tackle, it makes my blood boil. It's not like they aren't taught to tackle correctly. It's not like they're taught to take horrendous angles. There's plenty of blame to go around from top to bottom. It's the coaches job to put them in position and the players job to make plays.
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The players shouldn't be absolved of poor play either. For instance every time I see one of those turds going for a highlight shoulder tackle, it makes my blood boil. It's not like they aren't taught to tackle correctly. It's not like they're taught to take horrendous angles. There's plenty of blame to go around from top to bottom. It's the coaches job to put them in position and the players job to make plays.
The shoulder tackles are definitely annoying.
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Old 10-28-2020, 12:24 PM   #4
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Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****

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The shoulder tackles are definitely annoying.
Annoying is an understatement! There are too many words to describe the shoulder tackles. It is ....
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Old 10-27-2020, 01:27 PM   #5
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The players shouldn't be absolved of poor play either. For instance every time I see one of those turds going for a highlight shoulder tackle, it makes my blood boil. It's not like they aren't taught to tackle correctly. It's not like they're taught to take horrendous angles. There's plenty of blame to go around from top to bottom. It's the coaches job to put them in position and the players job to make plays.
But how many times have you heard CSP at his post-game media coverage say, “It starts with us, the coaching staff”.

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