Re: Drew Brees Almost Never Throws Deep Anymore. Is That A Problem For The Saints?
 

“Energy Transference”? lol, yeah right. That works on the practice field, aka when you’re in a red jersey. Problem with that philosophy is that in real time, aka middle of the game, you’re rarely allowed a perfect pocket for an extended period of time. Bottom line, opposing players aren’t going to respect you wearing a “red jersey” while in the middle of a game.

It’s very simple, DB#9 has been hesitant and indecisive..., he’s double pumped away from an open “shot” play into a checkdown more times than Oprah has said “look under your chair”. And it’s not his OL, they’ve kept him clean throughout this season more so than almost anybody else. 9 sacks in 8 games is pretty darn stingy.

Re: Drew Brees Almost Never Throws Deep Anymore. Is That A Problem For The Saints?
 

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Re: Drew Brees Almost Never Throws Deep Anymore. Is That A Problem For The Saints?
 

Tom House also works with Tom Brady, and several other QB's and pitchers they all get their power through their legs and torso FAR more so than their arms. They all use it in every game, so, yes, it DOES work in games. Not only in a red jersey. It doesn't take any longer to throw with that technique than any other. All it takes is a firm stance. That's why they both are constantly repositioning their bodies while in the pocket. Yet, both Brady and Brees have among the quickest releases in the NFL today. They both spend all year working on their techniques and it doesn't take to ton of time in the pocket.

Re: Drew Brees Almost Never Throws Deep Anymore. Is That A Problem For The Saints?
 

I don’t care if he’s working with Jesus Christ, son of the Almighty. Football is a sport built deliberately around moving. Football isn’t croquet, where you line up everything perfectly, make your shot, then walk to the next one. DB#9, along with any other QB who can no longer make non pocket-perfect throws bc of age is robbing Peter to pay Paul, if we’re staying in a religious vernacular. Giving up mobility completely, so “form” can attempt to offset a weakening, possibly already shot, arm is seen by every defense in the league as a weakness, and it limits the Saints offensively bc of it. AK#41 amazes me more every day in spite of DB#9. Sadly, DB#9 has aged into a check down only passer, and it limits our offense..., massively. Every defense in the NFL knows that we can’t go deep, or even pretend to, ever. Every. Single. Defense.

Re: Drew Brees Almost Never Throws Deep Anymore. Is That A Problem For The Saints?
 

Re: Drew Brees Almost Never Throws Deep Anymore. Is That A Problem For The Saints?
 

It comes down to this ...

Do you agree or do you not agree that Brees gives us our best chance at winning as a starter over anyone else on our roster or otherwise available today? If not then who would guarantee us of winning more games now?

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Great questions, and yes I do think DB#9 is our best option in the immediate future. I would be hard pressed to find a reason to bench him, other than injury. Which leads me to a question for you. Why do the Saints sit DB#9 at critical moments in the game, and put the Taysom show in the game? If the answer to the previous question is that DB#9 is the Saints best option, so be it, let him run the offense..., the ENTIRE offense, all the time. Why has he been sat, when healthy?

I’ve never known a “sane” HC to state: “I have the GOAT QB, but nah, I’ma sit him when we need him the most”. That’s the very def’n of insanity..., or stupidity.

Re: Drew Brees Almost Never Throws Deep Anymore. Is That A Problem For The Saints?
 

Whilst true and I agree, I think to some degree it depends on the game situation and chess match with the defense.

Not saying that Payton is right to bring Brees out when he does, however I just remember that Taysom was the only reason we were even in the playoff game vs Vikings, Brees came back in after 2 huge plays by Taysom and fumbled the game away.

The fact they aren't letting Taysom throw anything is pretty telling to me though.

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I rarely complain about anything other than bad calls while watching a Saints game. The one time that I do is when Payton inserts Taysom and especially when Brees is on a roll. He's certainly not putting Taysom in there for his arm. He has still only attempted 16 passes in his regular season career and only three this season. Taysom never enters the game to run a base play. It invariably involves some sort of gimmick. He comes in more as a wildcat than a QB. He does give us a better chance on a running play, but give me Brees with a yard or less any day.

But back to Brees. Can you explain why some people complain so much about Brees and his inadequacies if he's our best and only option to winning games at QB? Is it only because he isn't everything he used to be? That just brings me back to my age old argument of what good does it do to complain over something that is out of your control, or even out of the control of the team? Do you think it makes the complainer feel better in some sort of way? It seems to me that it would have the opposite effect.

Puzzling. :confused:

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It’s not puzzling at all. You’re def’n of “complaining” is different than mine, I don’t speak for anybody else, but I just state my case as my eyes see it, and if the stats back it up, then I point out that also. Being critical is not complaining, to me, bc I don’t have an 19-0 expectation or the opposite 0-19 hope. Nor am I a “homer” to anybody, including DB#9. I want him to succeed bc I want the Saints to succeed. Also, I see every player as a cost benefit analysis in that “how much does this guy cost vs how productive is he” is the question I ask. And none of that is compared to what a player did for our organization more than a decade ago. And it’s that simple. Your personality seems to be very <fingers in ears> “LA LA LA LA LA LA, <screaming> I CANT HEAR YOU” while ppl like me state “oof, that was a bad pass”. Not everybody is like you though, and it’s not unreasonable for ppl to want DB#9 to succeed while simultaneously pointing out his deficiencies as he ages.

My friend, feel free to blindly follow only the positive, you do you, lol. Nothing wrong with fans like you, God bless you for your rampant and blind fanaticism. But, almost everybody here is a Saints fan. We’re just all different ppl, differing personalities, differing expectations and hopes for the Saints. And we express our feelings in varying different ways. I’ve never understood the “we’re all in now” or “one last hurrah” mantra that has been propagated throughout all of Saintsdom. It bothers me tremendously. What happened to the last decade? Why were we not all in for those years? Is DB#9 the only Saint playing that deserves a SB?

Oh, Brees isn’t our only option. There are two other QB’s on the roster. One we know can throw for 5,000 yards right now also, and the other who seems to have been “chosen” as the heir apparent. I’ve ALWAYS believed, still do, that may the player who best runs the entire playbook be named the starter. But, that’s not my call, I’m just a fan..., one who has eyes though and is not blind to the current circumstances.