Drew Brees Almost Never Throws Deep Anymore. Is That A Problem For The Saints?
 

Drew Brees Almost Never Throws Deep Anymore. Is That A Problem For The Saints?

It hasn’t been so far.

Drew Brees of the New Orleans Saints is having one of the most interesting quarterback seasons in recent memory. Criticized harshly for a weak arm, the 41-year-old almost never throws the ball deep anymore, instead tossing short passes to running back Alvin Kamara and various receivers not named Michael Thomas. (The All-Pro has been injured since Week 1.)

Because they pose minimal danger over the top to keep defenses honest, you might think that Brees and the Saints would be struggling. And yet, New Orleans has started the season with at least four wins in its first six games for a fourth consecutive year, and Brees is seventh in the NFL in Total QBR.1 Brees has been trending in this direction for a while, but he is now pushing the absolute limits of how much a quarterback can accomplish without having the arm to back it up.

Going back to 2006, the earliest season for which ESPN has data on air yards, only one QB threw a shorter average pass than Brees’s 5.80 mark this year: Alex Smith of the Kansas City Chiefs in 2014, whose average pass traveled just 5.58 yards through the air. And no QB in the entire sample had a season in which he threw a smaller share of passes 20 or more yards downfield than Brees’s 3.3 percent rate so far in 2020. (Even for Smith in 2014, 5.4 percent of his passes traveled at least 20 yards.)

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Sean Payton will design the plays to make Drew perform at his best. We have players who get YAC and we have a great O-line that gets upfield to throw blocks to free up the runner. Payton is a genius and Drew is now still better than a game manager. Our offense won the Lombardi with trickery and solid play.

The problem isn't Drew. The problem is when Drew is on the bench then that means our secondary is out there playing hide and seek with their offense.

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Probably just hurts as hell to throw deep with his past shoulder injury. Old wounds will always come back to bite u as u age Brees is no different .scar tissue is a major issue with pain.


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I never heard nor read that he has experienced any pain from that shoulder since the successful surgery. It is a fairly minor procedure to clean up scar tissue these days if it indeed an issue. I tend to doubt it is.

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He's now Chad Pennington.

Short and intermediate throws are all he really has. If he wasn't so freakishly exceptional at those we'd be getting killed.

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If things go right then it is no big deal if Brees does not throw deep. When defenses start pressing up on receivers, stacking the box, etc. it's a major issue when there is not a deep passing game to push the defense back.

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As long as his accuracy is running at an optimum level, probably be okay. Yeah, may not look too sexy but still works. When you can accurately throw a ball to a receiver in full stride, regardless of who it is, that's the difference in success between someone like Brees versus many if not most of the competition. And he is arguably one of the best of all time.....imo. Now, what you are starting to see are more exotic defenses versus the pass.more people in coverage, more people in deeper coverage. As long as he can slip/avoid the pressure he will be fine.

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This is my opinion and not a reason. The guy really never had a gun anyway. But could throw deep to keep defenses (honest) per say. He’s toast on the deep ball imo. Look I’m a drew believer, we have our best shot with him, but when he’s gone this offense will open up even more. And AG what happened in the playoffs when MT little button hooks and crossing routes were nonexistent, not MTs fault it was part oline and Drew’s that can’t outrun a three legged tortoise . It would have been a different outcome if drew could sprint right or left with pressure up the middle ala russel Wilson . Just saying my friend.


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Damm AG, waiting on that response is like waiting on a prison sentence 🤣

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What makes you think the offense will open up even more? I expect a step back and possibly years to have a chance at the firepower we have had and still have today. Currently there are 21 NFL teams lagging behind the Saints in total offense per game. QB's of Brees' abilities do not grow on trees.

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Do you believe for one second that if Taysom or Winston were in fact a better option than Brees that this Owner Head Coach Offensive Coordinator or players on the offense would not be demanding a change.

I suspect we will find out all to soon what “Life After Brees” will look like, not necessarily bad but you just don’t replace plug and play this level of QB.

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It seems kind of obvious to say this, but the Terrell Davis/Elway Broncos championship team is the one we need to emulate. Be excellent with the run game and lean on it, be proficient when we do pass, and manage to have enough pass rush and speed on defense to hold our own there. To answer, it's only problem if we are trying to be a pass-heavy team.

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Wan wan wan, Teddy went 5-0 after brees sirs.


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Yep there u go bud.


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Cowturds are done; see if Jerry willing to trade Amari Cooper

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To who? We'll have both Thomas and Sanders back next week. Not to mention there is no way to absorb his contract under our cap.

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WHen Drew forces it deep like the Minnesota playoff game it’s a critical interception

Keep it within their mid game and complete accuracy

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Drew is a surgeon and can still slice up a defense. With Drew getting the ball to our receivers in stride we are getting good YAC which is a staple of the west coast offense. We can still win a Super bowl with Drew. With this defense it's possible but unfortunately it's doubtful.

DREW IS NOT THE PROBLEM! He is still the best option available to bring us back to the promise land. Hallelujah and Amen Brother!:bng:

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Re: Drew Brees Almost Never Throws Deep Anymore. Is That A Problem For The Saints?
 

Old man tre lol


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and Joe Montana!

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This is Drew Brees last season...

Drew Brees is Dead Last in Intended Air Yds/Pass Att (IAY/PA), 2nd To Last in Completed Air Yds/Pass Att (CAY/PA), and is living off his supporting cast Yards After Catch/Completion (YAC/Cmp)...

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You wouldn't, injuries are listed but aches and pains are never covered.

Scar tissue isn't the only issue that can make shoulders troublesome. I have tendonitis in both rotator cuffs and the slightest inflammation causes impingement and will prevent you from getting much sleep until it subsides, especially if you are not a back sleeper. Its a dull constant ache that has nothing to clean out or repair, if you lift your arm too high the dull pain can be sharp.

I found two things greatly effected my tendonitis, pressure changes due to weather and flying because of the pressure changes involved there. In my 5 years of traveling back and forth to Africa, I generally ate 12-16 ibuprofen a day.

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That's the way the offense is designed. You can be successful with this offense if your QB has a high enough completion percentage.

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Oh, I know aches and pains. I had basically the same injury as Brees and the surgeon, team surgeon for Louisiana Tech at the time) said if I was younger and was dependent upon it for my living (he mentioned pitcher or QB) he would have done surgery. I also had basically the equivalent surgery done on my knee 25 years ago and have had no issues with it ever since. Everyone heals differently. It is very realistic that Brees has no lingering pain from the shoulder. Look how quickly he recovered from the thumb surgery. He clearly has the metabolism required for recovery.

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Re: Drew Brees Almost Never Throws Deep Anymore. Is That A Problem For The Saints?
 

You are focused on the injury and it doesn't always take injury to cause pain, discomfort, or a reduction in performance.

I have absolutely abused my body most of my life, baseball (10 years of catcher), football, military.. Knees and hips are fine. My Mother played zero sports and has had a knee and hip replaced.

Age is a b1tch.

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Exactly, studs don’t complain they just do it. I wasn’t going to get in a peeing contest with AG over what u just reiterated. Brees arm is sore, it’s sour but it’s working . Beat Tampa’s arse drew.


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Tell me about it. 45 years after sports and and a helicopter crash it’s a struggle to get out of bed. But I do it . I have 3 grandsons that need to be coached. Lol


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Rotary guy here..., Rotary aircraft never crash, they just land hard.

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Bree’s QBR 106.7 for 7th place in the NFL. This has been without his #1 receiver Since week 1. Haters hate but fact are facts. Put a defense in the picture for the 1 weeks we might be 7-0.

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I just listened to an interview with Brees on Airing it Out an hour ago with Brett Favre and Bruce Murray. They mentioned his remarkable completion percentage and he began talking about the offensive design. He said there is something to pounding the ball on the ground and wearing down a defense, but added that their offense is designed to do the same thing via the pass. He said repeated 3, 5, and 7 yard passes with screens thrown in here and there are just as frustrating and effective as running the ball to a defense. He said that it's their take on the West Coast offense. Long methodical drives with those short passes has the same affect as does runs, and they do mix in the run to keep the defense honest. Favre said that Brees appears to be just as sharp as he has ever been and Brees said knows that he is on the latter part of his career and takes time to relish playing more than ever. He added that he still loves the game and just like the last few years as long as he is still enjoying the game, and is healthy, and playing the game at a high level there is no reason to stop.

He said he was looking forward to getting Thomas and Sanders back and touched on the difficulties of have a new set of WR's game after game. He said he spends the week visualizing the plays for each individual WR and the constant changes are not easy.

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No place to land in Sierra madres had to ditch. But we muled it out alive , broke back both legs ankles peccar was okay though lol


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Seriously I’m on my way to get my handicap hang tag , life’s a biotch.


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Part of Brees' interview with Favre and Murray today on XM's NFL Radio.

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I've been saying that Drew could manage the games later in life. Well, it's later in life and I'm at peace that I've had Drew leading the Saints to a Super bowl championship as well as numerous NFC South division winners. That's all fine and dandy but it's criminal that Drew never had a complimentary defense outside of '09 to get back to the big game. He deserves better.

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To be honest, the '09 defense wasn't any better than what we have today. That team was fortunate to have turnovers at the right time all season long. Darren Sharper was magic.

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Sharper was king,is he spiking the prisoners with knock out candy bars. What a douch sack.


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Darren Sharper really was the difference on the back end in that D but I think the players really thrived off Greggs attitude that season too.
He wanted them angry and he instilled an attitude that they all bought into, that every snap is an opportunity to get the ball and it really showed.
From the very first preseason game I could tell there was a huge difference in 09 and it was literally the attitude they played with. If someone got a pick, it was like a race for the defensive players to see who get out and lead block first.

There's a soundbite on the Saints Americas game documentary where GW literally tells Vilma, "you call whatever you want and we'll play it" that's how much trust he had in his group.

Vilma was a huge part too, one of the best memories I have is him changing the D to a zone coverage which led to Porters int of Favre.