I owe Dennis Allen an apology

73Saint · 11-24-2020, 09:52 AM

I will be the first to admit it, early on in the season I was pissed that we let Nolan go, and kept DA. To me it seemed that something was off and it wasn't the players.

I'm not sure who it was but one of you even responded by saying hold the phone, give it some time. This defense is becoming more and more fun to watch...I love it!

Happy to eat crow and say I sure like how our defense looks now, despite my calling for DAs head on a platter!

st thomas · 11-24-2020, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by 73Saint

I will be the first to admit it, early on in the season I was pissed that we let Nolan go, and kept DA. To me it seemed that something was off and it wasn't the players.

I'm not sure who it was but one of you even responded by saying hold the phone, give it some time. This defense is becoming more and more fun to watch...I love it!

Happy to eat crow and say I sure like how our defense looks now, despite my calling for DAs head on a platter!

I’m eating grosbeck myself in hammering DA

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blackangold · 11-24-2020, 02:05 PM

I was going to start a thread on this..

"Where are all the DA haters?"

Glad many of you are owning up to it, same with the T.Hill folks, good character here.

We all make mistakes, we only learn from them when we admit it.

Rugby Saint II · 11-24-2020, 02:05 PM

Da knows how to coach defenses but they don't play well until he dials back the game plan and cuts the play book in half. When the team doesn't have to think about a complex scheme then they can play at full speed. DA is known to make complex schemes like Payton. The problem is that he's not as smart as Payton.

He almost always starts slow and then gets better after he makes the plays more player friendly. He eventually gets the defense playing well when everyone is healthy.

His problem is he just has no clue how to close out a game. Prevent defense is his favorite way to let the other team get points on the board and keep it close.

My twin brother still can't believe that I'm off the DA bandwagon especially since I preached his praises for years. Every game the defensive backs are looking and pointing at everyone else after a completed pass. Most scores are off of PI interference and/or blown coverage. That is our Achilles heel....that and not knowing how to close out games. DA is good. We need great if we want Drew to hoist the Lombardi.

K Major · 11-24-2020, 02:46 PM

Present.

The Saints defense was atrocious early in the season. Are we not allowed to criticize poor performances because they might improve some day?

Dennis deserved every bit of criticism he was getting the 1st 6 games of the season.

Bookmark this page for late January where it matters most.

AsylumGuido · 11-24-2020, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Present.

The Saints defense was atrocious early in the season. Are we not allowed to criticize poor performances because they might improve some day?

Dennis deserved every bit of criticism he was getting the 1st 6 games of the season.

Bookmark this page for late January where it matters most.

As long as it makes you feel better. Other than that the critique has no audience. I don't think Dennis or Sean spend any time reading these threads so it can't be very effective at being constructive.

Edit: I take that back. It does have an audience in those others that just want to vent. Like they say, "misery loves company".

jeanpierre · 11-25-2020, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

As long as it makes you feel better. Other than that the critique has no audience. I don't think Dennis or Sean spend any time reading these threads so it can't be very effective at being constructive.

Edit: I take that back. It does have an audience in those others that just want to vent. Like they say, "misery loves company".

Yes, they do; to think they're above it is to deny the human condition, human nature, vanity being one of those elements...

Do they take posts into account when scheming for game day? I'd hope not - even when some here may be right in their constructive criticisms...

AsylumGuido · 11-25-2020, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Yes, they do; to think they're above it is to deny the human condition, human nature, vanity being one of those elements...

Do they take posts into account when scheming for game day? I'd hope not - even when some here may be right in their constructive criticisms...

I call total bullcrap on that, JP. There's no way Payton or Allen waste their valuable time reading Black & Gold posts.

K Major · 11-25-2020, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I call total bullcrap on that, JP. There's no way Payton or Allen waste their valuable time reading Black & Gold posts.

Well Sean Payton did "waste time" responding to that clown Roddy White on Twitter so ...

jeanpierre · 11-25-2020, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I call total bullcrap on that, JP. There's no way Payton or Allen waste their valuable time reading Black & Gold posts.

You can call BS all you want, but I know you're wrong, again...

11-24-2020, 09:52 AM	#1
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	I owe Dennis Allen an apology I will be the first to admit it, early on in the season I was pissed that we let Nolan go, and kept DA. To me it seemed that something was off and it wasn't the players. I'm not sure who it was but one of you even responded by saying hold the phone, give it some time. This defense is becoming more and more fun to watch...I love it! Happy to eat crow and say I sure like how our defense looks now, despite my calling for DAs head on a platter! SmashMouth, st thomas, WhoDat!656 and 2 others like this.

11-24-2020, 12:39 PM	#2
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: I owe Dennis Allen an apology Originally Posted by 73Saint I will be the first to admit it, early on in the season I was pissed that we let Nolan go, and kept DA. To me it seemed that something was off and it wasn't the players. I'm not sure who it was but one of you even responded by saying hold the phone, give it some time. This defense is becoming more and more fun to watch...I love it! Happy to eat crow and say I sure like how our defense looks now, despite my calling for DAs head on a platter! I’m eating grosbeck myself in hammering DA Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk SmashMouth, 73Saint and blackangold like this.

11-24-2020, 02:05 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I owe Dennis Allen an apology I was going to start a thread on this.. "Where are all the DA haters?" Glad many of you are owning up to it, same with the T.Hill folks, good character here. We all make mistakes, we only learn from them when we admit it. 73Saint likes this.

11-24-2020, 02:05 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: I owe Dennis Allen an apology Da knows how to coach defenses but they don't play well until he dials back the game plan and cuts the play book in half. When the team doesn't have to think about a complex scheme then they can play at full speed. DA is known to make complex schemes like Payton. The problem is that he's not as smart as Payton. He almost always starts slow and then gets better after he makes the plays more player friendly. He eventually gets the defense playing well when everyone is healthy. His problem is he just has no clue how to close out a game. Prevent defense is his favorite way to let the other team get points on the board and keep it close. My twin brother still can't believe that I'm off the DA bandwagon especially since I preached his praises for years. Every game the defensive backs are looking and pointing at everyone else after a completed pass. Most scores are off of PI interference and/or blown coverage. That is our Achilles heel....that and not knowing how to close out games. DA is good. We need great if we want Drew to hoist the Lombardi. 73Saint and Thirty3 like this.
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11-24-2020, 02:46 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I owe Dennis Allen an apology Present. The Saints defense was atrocious early in the season. Are we not allowed to criticize poor performances because they might improve some day? Dennis deserved every bit of criticism he was getting the 1st 6 games of the season. Bookmark this page for late January where it matters most. leilung, saintsfan1976, jeanpierre and 7 others like this.

11-24-2020, 03:28 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: I owe Dennis Allen an apology Originally Posted by K Major Present. The Saints defense was atrocious early in the season. Are we not allowed to criticize poor performances because they might improve some day? Dennis deserved every bit of criticism he was getting the 1st 6 games of the season. Bookmark this page for late January where it matters most. As long as it makes you feel better. Other than that the critique has no audience. I don't think Dennis or Sean spend any time reading these threads so it can't be very effective at being constructive. Edit: I take that back. It does have an audience in those others that just want to vent. Like they say, "misery loves company".

11-25-2020, 05:08 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I owe Dennis Allen an apology Originally Posted by AsylumGuido As long as it makes you feel better. Other than that the critique has no audience. I don't think Dennis or Sean spend any time reading these threads so it can't be very effective at being constructive. Edit: I take that back. It does have an audience in those others that just want to vent. Like they say, "misery loves company". Yes, they do; to think they're above it is to deny the human condition, human nature, vanity being one of those elements... Do they take posts into account when scheming for game day? I'd hope not - even when some here may be right in their constructive criticisms... K Major likes this.
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11-25-2020, 06:14 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: I owe Dennis Allen an apology Originally Posted by jeanpierre Yes, they do; to think they're above it is to deny the human condition, human nature, vanity being one of those elements... Do they take posts into account when scheming for game day? I'd hope not - even when some here may be right in their constructive criticisms... I call total bullcrap on that, JP. There's no way Payton or Allen waste their valuable time reading Black & Gold posts.

11-25-2020, 06:17 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I owe Dennis Allen an apology Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I call total bullcrap on that, JP. There's no way Payton or Allen waste their valuable time reading Black & Gold posts. Well Sean Payton did "waste time" responding to that clown Roddy White on Twitter so ... jeanpierre likes this.

11-25-2020, 06:26 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I owe Dennis Allen an apology Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I call total bullcrap on that, JP. There's no way Payton or Allen waste their valuable time reading Black & Gold posts. You can call BS all you want, but I know you're wrong, again... K Major likes this.