How's It Look The Rest Of The Way

neugey · 11-25-2020, 09:24 AM

From the outside looking in, I'd rather not have Drew's first week back be the Chiefs. That game will be a real dogfight and we will have to be real aggressive to try to come up with the W. Seems like we could get in a game situation where we feel compelled to have Drew do too much too soon, rather than have the first game hopefully be one where we can ease him back in.

AsylumGuido · 11-25-2020, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

From the outside looking in, I'd rather not have Drew's first week back be the Chiefs. That game will be a real dogfight and we will have to be real aggressive to try to come up with the W. Seems like we could get in a game situation where we feel compelled to have Drew do too much too soon, rather than have the first game hopefully be one where we can ease him back in.

I was thinking the same thing. That's why the Eagles the week prior would be the best option.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-25-2020, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I was thinking the same thing. That's why the Eagles the week prior would be the best option.

But only if he is 100% healthy. It makes no sense to rush back if not completely healed.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 11-25-2020, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

But only if he is 100% healthy. It makes no sense to rush back if not completely healed.

SFIAH

They won't bring him back until he is ready enough and if he is ready enough then coming back against the Eagles is not "rushing". He probably won't be 100% until a couple of months after the season is over. No player is.

It makes total sense to bring him back when those that know far more than us deem it time. Thankfully "we" are not making those decisions as "we" don't have a real perspective.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-25-2020, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They won't bring him back until he is ready enough and if he is ready enough then coming back against the Eagles is not "rushing". He probably won't be 100% until a couple of months after the season is over. No player is.

It makes total sense to bring him back when those that know far more than us deem it time. Thankfully "we" are not making those decisions as "we" don't have a real perspective.

I honestly really don't care if there are people who know more than I do. I'm just looking at this from a common sense perspective. It's likely by week 14 the Saints will be looking at playoff clinching scenarios, if not already clinched a playoff spot. That's going to limit the meaning of subsequent games.

The objective of the season is to win a Superbowl. Not to play what IMHO is going to be a rather useless game against the Eagles. If Brees is at 85% week 14 and taking another week off gets him to 95%, then it's rather foolish and risky to put him out there because he meets the technical definition of ready.

All it takes is one play just like the one a couple of weeks ago that makes Brees unavailable for the playoffs. He doesn't need a 4 game warmup for the playoffs.

Personally, I'd be perfectly fine if he sat through the KC game, played at Minnesota, then sit again week 17 to get ready for playoff football.

Let's not lose sight of the goal over ego. Brees has nothing to prove to any of us except to hoist the Lombardi again. So, if sitting out a extra game or two, or three, sets him up to be as healthy as possible for the playoffs, then I think that's the smart move.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 11-26-2020, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I honestly really don't care if there are people who know more than I do. I'm just looking at this from a common sense perspective. It's likely by week 14 the Saints will be looking at playoff clinching scenarios, if not already clinched a playoff spot. That's going to limit the meaning of subsequent games.

The objective of the season is to win a Superbowl. Not to play what IMHO is going to be a rather useless game against the Eagles. If Brees is at 85% week 14 and taking another week off gets him to 95%, then it's rather foolish and risky to put him out there because he meets the technical definition of ready.

All it takes is one play just like the one a couple of weeks ago that makes Brees unavailable for the playoffs. He doesn't need a 4 game warmup for the playoffs.

Personally, I'd be perfectly fine if he sat through the KC game, played at Minnesota, then sit again week 17 to get ready for playoff football.

Let's not lose sight of the goal over ego. Brees has nothing to prove to any of us except to hoist the Lombardi again. So, if sitting out a extra game or two, or three, sets him up to be as healthy as possible for the playoffs, then I think that's the smart move.

SFIAH

One play can happen whether the player is at 75% or 100%. At this time of year most every player is at somewhere around 80% max! Besides, every game counts. Getting that first round bye is critical. Settling for simply getting a playoff spot clinched is hopefully not in their mindset.

Besides, there's no reason Brees shouldn't be healthy by the Eagles game. That's still a full three weeks away. The left side will have had five weeks to completely heal and the right (less fractures) four weeks. The lung should be pretty much healed by now. The timetable is around two weeks from what I have been told for a minor puncture and that has to have been what he had or he would have been hospitalized and not walking the sideline the remainder of the game.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-26-2020, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

One play can happen whether the player is at 75% or 100%. At this time of year most every player is at somewhere around 80% max! Besides, every game counts. Getting that first round bye is critical. Settling for simply getting a playoff spot clinched is hopefully not in their mindset.

Besides, there's no reason Brees shouldn't be healthy by the Eagles game. That's still a full three weeks away. The left side will have had five weeks to completely heal and the right (less fractures) four weeks. The lung should be pretty much healed by now. The timetable is around two weeks from what I have been told for a minor puncture and that has to have been what he had or he would have been hospitalized and not walking the sideline the remainder of the game.

My point is that the one play doesn't occur if the player is not in the game. The less exposure that Brees has during the regular season, the less likely that he'll be reinjured before the playoffs start.

We're talking about two completely different things. You are discussing Brees' injuries. I'm talking about how completely meaningless the Eagles game is in the scope of the season. Presuming the Saints go 3-0 in this Failclowns-Broncos-Failclowns stretch of games without Brees, the team will have proven that they can beat mediocre teams without Brees. So, then what's the point of exposing him to additional wear and tear?

I hope we can agree that the Saints need Brees to win the SuperBowl. It is unlikely they need him to beat the Eagles. Just give him another week off so that he can be better prepared for the playoff run, which is the only important agenda for the season.

SFIAH

Audiotom · 11-26-2020, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I honestly really don't care if there are people who know more than I do. I'm just looking at this from a common sense perspective. It's likely by week 14 the Saints will be looking at playoff clinching scenarios, if not already clinched a playoff spot. That's going to limit the meaning of subsequent games.

The objective of the season is to win a Superbowl. Not to play what IMHO is going to be a rather useless game against the Eagles. If Brees is at 85% week 14 and taking another week off gets him to 95%, then it's rather foolish and risky to put him out there because he meets the technical definition of ready.

All it takes is one play just like the one a couple of weeks ago that makes Brees unavailable for the playoffs. He doesn't need a 4 game warmup for the playoffs.

Personally, I'd be perfectly fine if he sat through the KC game, played at Minnesota, then sit again week 17 to get ready for playoff football.

Let's not lose sight of the goal over ego. Brees has nothing to prove to any of us except to hoist the Lombardi again. So, if sitting out a extra game or two, or three, sets him up to be as healthy as possible for the playoffs, then I think that's the smart move.

SFIAH

You are forgettting one thing

If Drew is “feeling good” for him
He never wants to miss a down

dam1953 · 11-25-2020, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

From the outside looking in, I'd rather not have Drew's first week back be the Chiefs. That game will be a real dogfight and we will have to be real aggressive to try to come up with the W. Seems like we could get in a game situation where we feel compelled to have Drew do too much too soon, rather than have the first game hopefully be one where we can ease him back in.

Then again, his first game back in 2019 after surgery on his throwing hand.

34 of 43, 79.1% comp, 373 yds, 3 TDs, QBR 116.4

But AZ isn't KC.

11-25-2020, 09:24 AM	#1
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,819 Blog Entries: 13	Re: How's It Look The Rest Of The Way From the outside looking in, I'd rather not have Drew's first week back be the Chiefs. That game will be a real dogfight and we will have to be real aggressive to try to come up with the W. Seems like we could get in a game situation where we feel compelled to have Drew do too much too soon, rather than have the first game hopefully be one where we can ease him back in. Thirty3 likes this.

11-25-2020, 09:30 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: How's It Look The Rest Of The Way Originally Posted by neugey From the outside looking in, I'd rather not have Drew's first week back be the Chiefs. That game will be a real dogfight and we will have to be real aggressive to try to come up with the W. Seems like we could get in a game situation where we feel compelled to have Drew do too much too soon, rather than have the first game hopefully be one where we can ease him back in. I was thinking the same thing. That's why the Eagles the week prior would be the best option. neugey likes this.

11-25-2020, 03:51 PM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: How's It Look The Rest Of The Way Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I was thinking the same thing. That's why the Eagles the week prior would be the best option. But only if he is 100% healthy. It makes no sense to rush back if not completely healed. SFIAH saintsfan1976 and K Major like this.

11-25-2020, 06:11 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: How's It Look The Rest Of The Way Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL But only if he is 100% healthy. It makes no sense to rush back if not completely healed. SFIAH They won't bring him back until he is ready enough and if he is ready enough then coming back against the Eagles is not "rushing". He probably won't be 100% until a couple of months after the season is over. No player is. It makes total sense to bring him back when those that know far more than us deem it time. Thankfully "we" are not making those decisions as "we" don't have a real perspective.

11-25-2020, 09:20 PM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: How's It Look The Rest Of The Way Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They won't bring him back until he is ready enough and if he is ready enough then coming back against the Eagles is not "rushing". He probably won't be 100% until a couple of months after the season is over. No player is. It makes total sense to bring him back when those that know far more than us deem it time. Thankfully "we" are not making those decisions as "we" don't have a real perspective. I honestly really don't care if there are people who know more than I do. I'm just looking at this from a common sense perspective. It's likely by week 14 the Saints will be looking at playoff clinching scenarios, if not already clinched a playoff spot. That's going to limit the meaning of subsequent games. The objective of the season is to win a Superbowl. Not to play what IMHO is going to be a rather useless game against the Eagles. If Brees is at 85% week 14 and taking another week off gets him to 95%, then it's rather foolish and risky to put him out there because he meets the technical definition of ready. All it takes is one play just like the one a couple of weeks ago that makes Brees unavailable for the playoffs. He doesn't need a 4 game warmup for the playoffs. Personally, I'd be perfectly fine if he sat through the KC game, played at Minnesota, then sit again week 17 to get ready for playoff football. Let's not lose sight of the goal over ego. Brees has nothing to prove to any of us except to hoist the Lombardi again. So, if sitting out a extra game or two, or three, sets him up to be as healthy as possible for the playoffs, then I think that's the smart move. SFIAH saintsfan1976 and K Major like this.
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11-26-2020, 08:35 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: How's It Look The Rest Of The Way Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I honestly really don't care if there are people who know more than I do. I'm just looking at this from a common sense perspective. It's likely by week 14 the Saints will be looking at playoff clinching scenarios, if not already clinched a playoff spot. That's going to limit the meaning of subsequent games. The objective of the season is to win a Superbowl. Not to play what IMHO is going to be a rather useless game against the Eagles. If Brees is at 85% week 14 and taking another week off gets him to 95%, then it's rather foolish and risky to put him out there because he meets the technical definition of ready. All it takes is one play just like the one a couple of weeks ago that makes Brees unavailable for the playoffs. He doesn't need a 4 game warmup for the playoffs. Personally, I'd be perfectly fine if he sat through the KC game, played at Minnesota, then sit again week 17 to get ready for playoff football. Let's not lose sight of the goal over ego. Brees has nothing to prove to any of us except to hoist the Lombardi again. So, if sitting out a extra game or two, or three, sets him up to be as healthy as possible for the playoffs, then I think that's the smart move. SFIAH One play can happen whether the player is at 75% or 100%. At this time of year most every player is at somewhere around 80% max! Besides, every game counts. Getting that first round bye is critical. Settling for simply getting a playoff spot clinched is hopefully not in their mindset. Besides, there's no reason Brees shouldn't be healthy by the Eagles game. That's still a full three weeks away. The left side will have had five weeks to completely heal and the right (less fractures) four weeks. The lung should be pretty much healed by now. The timetable is around two weeks from what I have been told for a minor puncture and that has to have been what he had or he would have been hospitalized and not walking the sideline the remainder of the game.
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11-26-2020, 09:50 AM	#7
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: How's It Look The Rest Of The Way Originally Posted by AsylumGuido One play can happen whether the player is at 75% or 100%. At this time of year most every player is at somewhere around 80% max! Besides, every game counts. Getting that first round bye is critical. Settling for simply getting a playoff spot clinched is hopefully not in their mindset. Besides, there's no reason Brees shouldn't be healthy by the Eagles game. That's still a full three weeks away. The left side will have had five weeks to completely heal and the right (less fractures) four weeks. The lung should be pretty much healed by now. The timetable is around two weeks from what I have been told for a minor puncture and that has to have been what he had or he would have been hospitalized and not walking the sideline the remainder of the game. My point is that the one play doesn't occur if the player is not in the game. The less exposure that Brees has during the regular season, the less likely that he'll be reinjured before the playoffs start. We're talking about two completely different things. You are discussing Brees' injuries. I'm talking about how completely meaningless the Eagles game is in the scope of the season. Presuming the Saints go 3-0 in this Failclowns-Broncos-Failclowns stretch of games without Brees, the team will have proven that they can beat mediocre teams without Brees. So, then what's the point of exposing him to additional wear and tear? I hope we can agree that the Saints need Brees to win the SuperBowl. It is unlikely they need him to beat the Eagles. Just give him another week off so that he can be better prepared for the playoff run, which is the only important agenda for the season. SFIAH K Major likes this.
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11-26-2020, 07:55 PM	#8
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: How's It Look The Rest Of The Way Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I honestly really don't care if there are people who know more than I do. I'm just looking at this from a common sense perspective. It's likely by week 14 the Saints will be looking at playoff clinching scenarios, if not already clinched a playoff spot. That's going to limit the meaning of subsequent games. The objective of the season is to win a Superbowl. Not to play what IMHO is going to be a rather useless game against the Eagles. If Brees is at 85% week 14 and taking another week off gets him to 95%, then it's rather foolish and risky to put him out there because he meets the technical definition of ready. All it takes is one play just like the one a couple of weeks ago that makes Brees unavailable for the playoffs. He doesn't need a 4 game warmup for the playoffs. Personally, I'd be perfectly fine if he sat through the KC game, played at Minnesota, then sit again week 17 to get ready for playoff football. Let's not lose sight of the goal over ego. Brees has nothing to prove to any of us except to hoist the Lombardi again. So, if sitting out a extra game or two, or three, sets him up to be as healthy as possible for the playoffs, then I think that's the smart move. SFIAH You are forgettting one thing If Drew is “feeling good” for him He never wants to miss a down AsylumGuido and WW_Who_Dat like this.

11-25-2020, 09:36 AM	#9
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: How's It Look The Rest Of The Way Originally Posted by neugey From the outside looking in, I'd rather not have Drew's first week back be the Chiefs. That game will be a real dogfight and we will have to be real aggressive to try to come up with the W. Seems like we could get in a game situation where we feel compelled to have Drew do too much too soon, rather than have the first game hopefully be one where we can ease him back in. Then again, his first game back in 2019 after surgery on his throwing hand. 34 of 43, 79.1% comp, 373 yds, 3 TDs, QBR 116.4 But AZ isn't KC. Audiotom likes this.