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If your definition of lighting us up is having a few key scrambles on broken plays, then you were wrong. Otherwise, he only managed the second fewest passing yards the Saints have surrendered all season.

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It is difficult to tell if you are that myopic or if you think we are? That argument might fly on other boards but not here buddy lol.

QBs have feet to go along with the arm and that one ran for 106 yards averaging 5.8 YPC, threw 30 passes without a single interception, and was never sacked.

For a rookie QB against a "top defense" that is lights out football. No mistakes against a seasoned defense is all it takes to win in most cases.

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If our offense wasn't so anemic we could have won the game easily and Hurts' running would have simply been a side note. His passing attack was pedestrian, managing only a 83.6 rating. For comparison, Hill had a 102.0 rating. Hurts' "bad throw" rate was 23.1% (Hill's was 18.9%). His completed air yards per attempt was a miniscule 1.6 yards. However, they did have 120 yards after catch. We had only 113 on eleven more completions. Those numbers are not indicative of having "lit someone up".

Our playing from behind the entire game put a ton of pressure on the defense. It created over-pursuit (we blitzed 12 times!) which resulted in those big plays on the ground. 40% of Hurts' rushing yards came on four scrambles. He had 14 other carries for the remainder.

By the way, Miles Sanders had over 71% of his 115 yards on one play. He only averaged 2.4 YPC on the other 13.

Hill's (and Payton's) inability to generate any offense in the first half is what allowed the Eagles' ground game to shred our tiring defense early on. Mistakes just compounded the problem. A few big plays, a bad interception, a bad fumble, and two missed FG's is what lit us up.

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Hurts didn’t need to throw the ball. Their running game was so successful and they stuck with it. 246 rushing yards allowed, 6.8 yards per carry on 36 rushing attempts. Ridiculously bad. Yes, turnovers hurt, yes missed field goals and missed turnovers from our defense hurt. All three phases failed to step forward an “take control” of the game. Two months ago, roughly, the Cowboys gave up just over 300 yards rushing and I called it one of the worst defenses to EVER play the game. The Saints defense did some things well, but 246 yards rushing allowed and two 100 yard rushers, in one game is...

Utter failure.

Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s
 

Um, no. It’s obvious you have no control of a die roll. You do have control of a first time QB scrambling for 100 plus yards.

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Side note to all...getting ready to deal with a legit 2 Feet of snow in my driveway. Would not want to play a game in this weather !!

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If I was planning a game against the Saints O with Hill as QB, number one thing I would do is NOT let him run off scrambles. I.E. contain. Eagles did that.

If I was planning a game against the Eagles with Hurts as QB, number one thing I would do is NOT let him run off scrambles. I.E. contain. Saints did NOT do this.

Simple formula to me.

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Speaking of the run game, did you notice Trey Hendrickson or lack thereof? He's had a solid season but vs Philly, this was probably his worst showing. Blew containment on several occasions and run support was bad, bad.

Credit Philly def coordinator Jim Schwartz for finding a weakness and exposing it.

I'm anxious to see how our defense responds against against an elite Chiefs offense that can score points in a hurry.

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Good grief.

This is my biggest fear heading into the playoffs … a possible visit (assuming we get that far) to Green Bay in late January.

Those elements could be down right brutal right Chris?

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What’s the worst weather you’ve ever flown in Major? What do you think about those “storm chasers” who fly into hurricanes ?

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It's simple. Rookies are Payton's Kryptonite! He's going down every time unfortunately.

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How much time you got? :p

Aviation is my forte' & background and I've flown in horrendous conditions during the Afghanistan war. Dropping down to 150 knots in a F-16 fighter is no picnic … challenging but no fun at all. As for storm chasing? You want to be seated in a Lockheed WC-130J that's for sure ;).

Born and raised in South Central Louisiana but absolutely despise cold weather whether it's flying in or watching a game in the cheap seats.

You do what you have to do though :biggun:.

Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s
 

K, that game was there for the winning. How, I have no idea, lol, but it was.

The defense failed to take advantage of their opportunities.

The offense failed to take advantage of their opportunities.

Special Teams failed also.

I could hyperanalyze each individual, and each snap, but doing so gives me a headache, lol, so I’ll leave that to the rest of you all who truly enjoy that level of focus. I’m more of a big picture person.

But you are spot on correct in that I’m anxious to see the defensive response. Was the Philly run game an anomaly? Yes, I do give credit to their coaching, but most importantly I give credit to their athletes, they made the plays, and won the 1v1’s when it counted most.

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Ok, I lied. It was only 16 inches. Not a legit 2 feet. It just seemed that way while plowing.

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If you were trying to answer my first question in as many words as possible; congratulations, you answered in spades.

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It is really amazing that you are so willing to pass off this loss entirely on the poor performance of the offense and specifically Hill and be willing to overlook the equally, if not more, crappy performance of the D. Yet another rookie QB kicks the Saints ass (something you will STILL argue against) and you are going to harp on Hill not reading the D when he’s dodging D linemen left and right. Nice.

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Of course the defense is at fault, as well. But is it because the opposing QB was a rookie in his first start and special?

Sorry, don't buy that.

Oh, and you will come to learn one day that I am amazing.

:D

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Oh, you’ve amazed me alright Guido !🤪

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Saints D had averaged Allowing like 9 points a game against opponents over their previous 5 including games against Tampa and Atlanta. The D for the Saints gave up much more than that in this game against a rookie with a struggling O. It was not because their O struggled and put them in bad position.