Saints @ Eagles Game Day Thread

LivnaLieTimay · 12-13-2020, 06:41 PM

We’ll have to see how this team responds. They just got it handed to them by a 3 win team and cost themselves a first round bye but the season is far from over. Eagles dominated all phases of the game today. Offense, defense, special teams and coaching all to blame.

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2020, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay

We’ll have to see how this team responds. They just got it handed to them by a 3 win team and cost themselves a first round bye but the season is far from over. Eagles dominated all phases of the game today. Offense, defense, special teams and coaching all to blame.

What is to blame is not having a QB that cannot control the ball. It keeps the defense on the field far too much. Our offense crippled our defense putting them into horrible situations all day.

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2020, 06:52 PM

This is why I was so insistent on wanting Brees back this game. If there was any way he could come back and play 75% we would have won the game. Hill was lost.

gosaints1 · 12-14-2020, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

What is to blame is not having a QB that cannot control the ball. It keeps the defense on the field far too much. Our offense crippled our defense putting them into horrible situations all day.

Baloney. One person does not a team make. What was Drew Brees stat line from the last playoff game the Saints were in? Pretty sure it included one int and one fumble. So using your logic DB#9 was SOLEY responsible for last year’s playoff loss, right? I don’t know if Taysom is the future, I truly don’t. He made some very nice throws, and also some really bad ones. But HE and HE alone is not the entire reason the Saints struggled, ultimately losing. Taysom made some throws DB#9 is physically incapable of making anymore. Offense missed on its’ chances to score, Defense missed on its’ chance to score and ST left six points on the cutting table.

Bottom line CJGJ missed a “right in his hands” opportunity, and it was definitely six points. Taysom missed a wide open Emanuel Sanders for a TD also, and the field goal kicking obviously missed two kicks. The win was there for the taking.

NO portion of the team stepped up. Plain & Simple. <btw> Didn’t DB#9 lose two games this year as the starter? The answer is “yeppers.

jeanpierre · 12-14-2020, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

What is to blame is not having a QB that cannot control the ball. It keeps the defense on the field far too much. Our offense crippled our defense putting them into horrible situations all day.

Wrong.

Kicker missed not one, but two FGAs - the difference in the game...

Offensive line was porous, at best; Terron Armstead got horribly beat on a number of occasions and there was little push from the middle of the line. Ramczyk was even jumping offsides - another difference in the game...

The Defense gave up 17 pts including the bulk of the rushing yards in the first half, not late in the game...

And on the onside kick the ball was between not one, but two Saints - Robertson and Morstead and neither wanted the ball bad enough in the bottom of the pile...

This was a team loss; the entire team came out flat and played, coached like crap; arguing it all to one player is dishonest at best and shows a complete inability to grasp what happened in the game...

Boston Saint · 12-14-2020, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Wrong.

Kicker missed not one, but two FGAs - the difference in the game...

Offensive line was porous, at best; Terron Armstead got horribly beat on a number of occasions and there was little push from the middle of the line. Ramczyk was even jumping offsides - another difference in the game...

The Defense gave up 17 pts including the bulk of the rushing yards in the first half, not late in the game...

And on the onside kick the ball was between not one, but two Saints - Robertson and Morstead and neither wanted the ball bad enough in the bottom of the pile...

This was a team loss; the entire team came out flat and played, coached like crap; arguing it all to one player is dishonest at best and shows a complete inability to grasp what happened in the game...

I’d double like like this if I could JP. Only thing you missed was talking about gameplan/coaching. Eagles won there too.

jeanpierre · 12-14-2020, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I’d double like like this if I could JP. Only thing you missed was talking about gameplan/coaching. Eagles won there too.

Yeah, I didn't ramble even more than I normally do, but I'd mentioned in a previous post I didn't like Payton drawing up the Taysom-fumble play on the sideline - it was taking too long to get the play drawn up, on the field...

And Pederson had too much time to intuit and counter what Payton was likely going to do...

While Allen made the necessary adjustments for the second half, to get caught that flat coming out in the first half makes you question the game preparation, and you're right - that's on the coaching...

Boston Saint · 12-14-2020, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Yeah, I didn't ramble even more than I normally do, but I'd mentioned in a previous post I didn't like Payton drawing up the Taysom-fumble play on the sideline - it was taking too long to get the play drawn up, on the field...

And Pederson had too much time to intuit and counter what Payton was likely going to do...

While Allen made the necessary adjustments for the second half, to get caught that flat coming out in the first half makes you question the game preparation, and you're right - that's on the coaching...

What bothers me in this aspect is that they are frequently outplayed early. Detroit, Chargers, Eagles etc have all been more prepared at gametime from what I’ve seen.

12-13-2020, 06:41 PM	#1
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,499	Re: Saints @ Eagles Game Day Thread We’ll have to see how this team responds. They just got it handed to them by a 3 win team and cost themselves a first round bye but the season is far from over. Eagles dominated all phases of the game today. Offense, defense, special teams and coaching all to blame.

12-13-2020, 06:47 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints @ Eagles Game Day Thread Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay We’ll have to see how this team responds. They just got it handed to them by a 3 win team and cost themselves a first round bye but the season is far from over. Eagles dominated all phases of the game today. Offense, defense, special teams and coaching all to blame. What is to blame is not having a QB that cannot control the ball. It keeps the defense on the field far too much. Our offense crippled our defense putting them into horrible situations all day.

12-13-2020, 06:52 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints @ Eagles Game Day Thread This is why I was so insistent on wanting Brees back this game. If there was any way he could come back and play 75% we would have won the game. Hill was lost.

12-14-2020, 11:13 AM	#4
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Saints @ Eagles Game Day Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido What is to blame is not having a QB that cannot control the ball. It keeps the defense on the field far too much. Our offense crippled our defense putting them into horrible situations all day. Baloney. One person does not a team make. What was Drew Brees stat line from the last playoff game the Saints were in? Pretty sure it included one int and one fumble. So using your logic DB#9 was SOLEY responsible for last year’s playoff loss, right? I don’t know if Taysom is the future, I truly don’t. He made some very nice throws, and also some really bad ones. But HE and HE alone is not the entire reason the Saints struggled, ultimately losing. Taysom made some throws DB#9 is physically incapable of making anymore. Offense missed on its’ chances to score, Defense missed on its’ chance to score and ST left six points on the cutting table. Bottom line CJGJ missed a “right in his hands” opportunity, and it was definitely six points. Taysom missed a wide open Emanuel Sanders for a TD also, and the field goal kicking obviously missed two kicks. The win was there for the taking. NO portion of the team stepped up. Plain & Simple. <btw> Didn’t DB#9 lose two games this year as the starter? The answer is “yeppers.
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12-14-2020, 05:03 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints @ Eagles Game Day Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido What is to blame is not having a QB that cannot control the ball. It keeps the defense on the field far too much. Our offense crippled our defense putting them into horrible situations all day. Wrong. Kicker missed not one, but two FGAs - the difference in the game... Offensive line was porous, at best; Terron Armstead got horribly beat on a number of occasions and there was little push from the middle of the line. Ramczyk was even jumping offsides - another difference in the game... The Defense gave up 17 pts including the bulk of the rushing yards in the first half, not late in the game... And on the onside kick the ball was between not one, but two Saints - Robertson and Morstead and neither wanted the ball bad enough in the bottom of the pile... This was a team loss; the entire team came out flat and played, coached like crap; arguing it all to one player is dishonest at best and shows a complete inability to grasp what happened in the game...
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12-14-2020, 05:08 PM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints @ Eagles Game Day Thread Originally Posted by jeanpierre Wrong. Kicker missed not one, but two FGAs - the difference in the game... Offensive line was porous, at best; Terron Armstead got horribly beat on a number of occasions and there was little push from the middle of the line. Ramczyk was even jumping offsides - another difference in the game... The Defense gave up 17 pts including the bulk of the rushing yards in the first half, not late in the game... And on the onside kick the ball was between not one, but two Saints - Robertson and Morstead and neither wanted the ball bad enough in the bottom of the pile... This was a team loss; the entire team came out flat and played, coached like crap; arguing it all to one player is dishonest at best and shows a complete inability to grasp what happened in the game... I’d double like like this if I could JP. Only thing you missed was talking about gameplan/coaching. Eagles won there too.

12-14-2020, 05:21 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints @ Eagles Game Day Thread Originally Posted by Boston Saint I’d double like like this if I could JP. Only thing you missed was talking about gameplan/coaching. Eagles won there too. Yeah, I didn't ramble even more than I normally do, but I'd mentioned in a previous post I didn't like Payton drawing up the Taysom-fumble play on the sideline - it was taking too long to get the play drawn up, on the field... And Pederson had too much time to intuit and counter what Payton was likely going to do... While Allen made the necessary adjustments for the second half, to get caught that flat coming out in the first half makes you question the game preparation, and you're right - that's on the coaching...
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12-14-2020, 05:30 PM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints @ Eagles Game Day Thread Originally Posted by jeanpierre Yeah, I didn't ramble even more than I normally do, but I'd mentioned in a previous post I didn't like Payton drawing up the Taysom-fumble play on the sideline - it was taking too long to get the play drawn up, on the field... And Pederson had too much time to intuit and counter what Payton was likely going to do... While Allen made the necessary adjustments for the second half, to get caught that flat coming out in the first half makes you question the game preparation, and you're right - that's on the coaching... What bothers me in this aspect is that they are frequently outplayed early. Detroit, Chargers, Eagles etc have all been more prepared at gametime from what I’ve seen.