What we learned, what's trending and final thoughts from the Saints surprising Philly flop | Luke Johnson

jeanpierre · 12-14-2020, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

We were flat and performed miserably in all aspects of football. Calling out a name is really short sighted.

- Poor play calling
- Poor decision making
- poor tackling
- missed field goals
- offensive line was abused
- run defense was abused
- panic holding in our secondary
- lost an onside kick from the bottom of the scrum
- poor ball control

When it comes to Taysom Hill, we all like to believe that we know what the f6ck we are talking about and honestly we do not. No, not you either, if you did you would be a paid scout.

I went back in a B&G time machine to look at what was being said before Drew Brees became a Saint, this was with 4 years as a starter with the Chargers. We have 4 games with Taysom Hill.
- not competent enough to carry our team
- not a good fit for our team
- Leinart has more potential than Brees
- Sign Brees and trade him for AJ Hawk

I am not saying he is the future, and I am not saying he isn't the future, I am saying we don't know **** at this point and to watch people argue for an injured player that cant even take the field is stupidity.

So.. calm ya fu6kin t1ts ya impatient bas7ards.

... Oh and SPK wasn't a bitter troll back then either. Sorry we lost ya.

And our Dad, Uncle, or Mom's lover would have to be an influential coach or scout - Nepotism is definitely a part of the hiring process...

TheOak · 12-14-2020, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

And our Dad, Uncle, or Mom's lover would have to be an influential coach or scout - Nepotism is definitely a part of the hiring process...

Hey! I dated a couple of my wife's cousins, when you find a good bloodline you stick with it lol.

gosaints1 · 12-14-2020, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Hey! I dated a couple of my wife's cousins, when you find a good bloodline you stick with it lol.

That’s just funny, I don’t care what anyone says.

TheOak · 12-14-2020, 10:01 AM

Here is a small stat that may give some insight as to how other teams see/play our defense.

Opponent 4th down attempts
24 attempts 52.4% success rate - Saints (our opponents go for it on 4th down more than any other defense in the league, and make it more than 1/2 the time)

That's an average of 1 successful drive per game being extended on 4th down. That's twice a game opponents are electing to not punt or kick a FG and rather risk going for a 1st.

Something just doesn't correlate between that stat and being the #1 defense in the league or being a shut down defense.

neugey · 12-14-2020, 11:41 AM

Our defense was bound to have a clunker at some point. Better now than in the playoffs.

One crazy thing I won't forget for a long time - I was at B-dubs watching the game and of course all of the other games were on. But our onside kick was kicked at almost the exact same time as Detroit ended up kicking theirs. And in both cases there were minutes where the refs had to sort out whose ball it was. It was happening in two different games simultaneously! Crazy stuff.

Boston Saint · 12-14-2020, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Our defense was bound to have a clunker at some point. Better now than in the playoffs.

One crazy thing I won't forget for a long time - I was at B-dubs watching the game and of course all of the other games were on. But our onside kick was kicked at almost the exact same time as Detroit ended up kicking theirs. And in both cases there were minutes where the refs had to sort out whose ball it was. It was happening in two different games simultaneously! Crazy stuff.

That kick easily could have gone the Saints way !!

Rugby Saint II · 12-14-2020, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

That kick easily could have gone the Saints way !!

I believe it went our way initially. Then Philly took it back in the scrum. I've re-watched that play several times. I referee rugby and I know rugby and how to spot the ball on the deck. It took much too long for the refs to make a call. The ball probably moved back and forth two or thee times.

Boston Saint · 12-14-2020, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I believe it went our way initially. Then Philly took it back in the scrum. I've re-watched that play several times. I referee rugby and I know rugby and how to spot the ball on the deck. It took much too long for the refs to make a call. The ball probably moved back and forth two or thee times.

Oh, you like Rugby?!! 🤣

Boston Saint · 12-14-2020, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Oh, you like Rugby?!! 🤣

Cal fancied themselves a good team. My wife went there for Grad school.

Rugby Saint II · 12-15-2020, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Oh, you like Rugby?!! 🤣

Nope! I love rugby!!!

12-14-2020, 10:03 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: What we learned, what's trending and final thoughts from the Saints surprising Philly flop \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by jeanpierre And our Dad, Uncle, or Mom's lover would have to be an influential coach or scout - Nepotism is definitely a part of the hiring process... Hey! I dated a couple of my wife's cousins, when you find a good bloodline you stick with it lol. jnormand, jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

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12-14-2020, 10:01 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: What we learned, what's trending and final thoughts from the Saints surprising Philly flop \| Luke Johnson Here is a small stat that may give some insight as to how other teams see/play our defense. Opponent 4th down attempts 24 attempts 52.4% success rate - Saints (our opponents go for it on 4th down more than any other defense in the league, and make it more than 1/2 the time) That's an average of 1 successful drive per game being extended on 4th down. That's twice a game opponents are electing to not punt or kick a FG and rather risk going for a 1st. Something just doesn't correlate between that stat and being the #1 defense in the league or being a shut down defense. gosaints1 likes this.
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12-14-2020, 11:41 AM	#5
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,880 Blog Entries: 13	Re: What we learned, what's trending and final thoughts from the Saints surprising Philly flop \| Luke Johnson Our defense was bound to have a clunker at some point. Better now than in the playoffs. One crazy thing I won't forget for a long time - I was at B-dubs watching the game and of course all of the other games were on. But our onside kick was kicked at almost the exact same time as Detroit ended up kicking theirs. And in both cases there were minutes where the refs had to sort out whose ball it was. It was happening in two different games simultaneously! Crazy stuff. Boston Saint likes this.

12-14-2020, 01:36 PM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: What we learned, what's trending and final thoughts from the Saints surprising Philly flop \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by neugey Our defense was bound to have a clunker at some point. Better now than in the playoffs. One crazy thing I won't forget for a long time - I was at B-dubs watching the game and of course all of the other games were on. But our onside kick was kicked at almost the exact same time as Detroit ended up kicking theirs. And in both cases there were minutes where the refs had to sort out whose ball it was. It was happening in two different games simultaneously! Crazy stuff. That kick easily could have gone the Saints way !!

12-14-2020, 09:58 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What we learned, what's trending and final thoughts from the Saints surprising Philly flop \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by TheOak We were flat and performed miserably in all aspects of football. Calling out a name is really short sighted. - Poor play calling - Poor decision making - poor tackling - missed field goals - offensive line was abused - run defense was abused - panic holding in our secondary - lost an onside kick from the bottom of the scrum - poor ball control When it comes to Taysom Hill, we all like to believe that we know what the f6ck we are talking about and honestly we do not. No, not you either, if you did you would be a paid scout. I went back in a B&G time machine to look at what was being said before Drew Brees became a Saint, this was with 4 years as a starter with the Chargers. We have 4 games with Taysom Hill. - not competent enough to carry our team - not a good fit for our team - Leinart has more potential than Brees - Sign Brees and trade him for AJ Hawk I am not saying he is the future, and I am not saying he isn't the future, I am saying we don't know ** at this point and to watch people argue for an injured player that cant even take the field is stupidity. So.. calm ya fu6kin t1ts ya impatient bas7ards. ... Oh and SPK wasn't a bitter troll back then either. Sorry we lost ya. And our Dad, Uncle, or Mom's lover would have to be an influential coach or scout - Nepotism is definitely a part of the hiring process...** TheOak likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: What we learned, what's trending and final thoughts from the Saints surprising Philly flop \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by Boston Saint That kick easily could have gone the Saints way !! I believe it went our way initially. Then Philly took it back in the scrum. I've re-watched that play several times. I referee rugby and I know rugby and how to spot the ball on the deck. It took much too long for the refs to make a call. The ball probably moved back and forth two or thee times. jeanpierre likes this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: What we learned, what's trending and final thoughts from the Saints surprising Philly flop \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I believe it went our way initially. Then Philly took it back in the scrum. I've re-watched that play several times. I referee rugby and I know rugby and how to spot the ball on the deck. It took much too long for the refs to make a call. The ball probably moved back and forth two or thee times. Oh, you like Rugby?!! 🤣 jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: What we learned, what's trending and final thoughts from the Saints surprising Philly flop \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by Boston Saint Oh, you like Rugby?!! 🤣 Cal fancied themselves a good team. My wife went there for Grad school.

12-15-2020, 10:50 AM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: What we learned, what's trending and final thoughts from the Saints surprising Philly flop \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by Boston Saint Oh, you like Rugby?!! 🤣 Nope! I love rugby!!! K Major and Boston Saint like this.