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WW_Who_Dat 12-23-2020 09:00 AM

KC Plan Against Kamara
 
https://neworleans.football/how-the-...slow-him-down/

bobdog86 12-23-2020 10:32 AM

Re: KC Plan Against Kamara
 
kinda like basketball, take away/blanket the most viable option- game, set, match. I'd like a rematch with a healthy squad.

dizzle88 12-23-2020 11:18 AM

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That's what teams do in the playoffs and we never seem to have an answer.

WW_Who_Dat 12-23-2020 01:04 PM

Re: KC Plan Against Kamara
 
Agreed they had 2 threats , Sanders and Kamara, takes those 2 out of the plan and Brees is playing with JV squad vs SB champs.

TheOak 12-23-2020 04:05 PM

Re: KC Plan Against Kamara
 
We had 17 rushes and 34 pass attempts with Kamara averaging 4.9 YPC on 11 carries.

KC didn’t take Kamara out, Sean Payton did.

K Major 12-23-2020 04:20 PM

Re: KC Plan Against Kamara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 908911)
We had 17 rushes and 34 pass attempts with Kamara averaging 4.9 YPC on 11 carries.

KC didn’t take Kamara out, Sean Payton did.

It would be nice to see that flipped to 34 rushes and 17 pass attempts once we hit post season :p.

Probably wishful thinking on my part though.

gosaints1 12-23-2020 04:47 PM

Re: KC Plan Against Kamara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 908911)
We had 17 rushes and 34 pass attempts with Kamara averaging 4.9 YPC on 11 carries.

KC didn’t take Kamara out, Sean Payton did.

As a team, the Saints rushed 17 times for 60 yards and a 3.5 average. KC clearly was hyper focused on making DB#9 beat them with his arm. AK#41 is a playmaker, that’s why he had that yardage per carry. I’m a huge fan of his, but if you Ditka him, he won’t be available for the playoffs.

Saints defense saw 41 rushes for 179 yards against them. Mahomes had a 5.3 yard per carry average, but once again, Ditka him and he’ll get banged up real quick.

Both are superstar athletes, but neither are bruisers. Extrapolating a 4.9 average or Mahome’s 5.3 average to double or triple the amount of touches will come with a cost.

AsylumGuido 12-23-2020 09:05 PM

Re: KC Plan Against Kamara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 908913)
As a team, the Saints rushed 17 times for 60 yards and a 3.5 average. KC clearly was hyper focused on making DB#9 beat them with his arm. AK#41 is a playmaker, that’s why he had that yardage per carry. I’m a huge fan of his, but if you Ditka him, he won’t be available for the playoffs.

Saints defense saw 41 rushes for 179 yards against them. Mahomes had a 5.3 yard per carry average, but once again, Ditka him and he’ll get banged up real quick.

Both are superstar athletes, but neither are bruisers. Extrapolating a 4.9 average or Mahome’s 5.3 average to double or triple the amount of touches will come with a cost.

Once again, defense can easily dictates offense.

Anyone that is so insistent about our not running the ball enough last game needs to go possession by possession, play by play and indicate in their opinion where the run was needed instead of the executed pass. Also take into consideration what the defense was showing on that play.

Let me know if you need the link to the plays. Easy to find.

I see a lot of "what they should have done" but we'd all love to see what you would have done.

gosaints1 12-23-2020 11:05 PM

Re: KC Plan Against Kamara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 908927)
I see a lot of "what they should have done" but we'd all love to see what you would have done.

Gotcha, it’s easy to be critical and not put skin in the game, so to speak. Personally, I would have ran the ball more, I just wouldn’t have done it exclusively with Kamara. Run it with Murray or put Hill under center in those short yardage cases. Murray btw is also an excellent ball catcher, I would have used him more in that respect. There were a few 3rd and 2’s and 3rd and 4’s that could have been pure runs. Regardless, CSP called what he thought would be most successful, and it just didn’t work out, either due to player execution, or just the wrong plays (from the sideline or in the huddle). But those multiple one minute offensive series, consisting of one run and two incompletions were brutal. 3rd down was a serious problem VERY early in the game, several posters here commented on it, along with time of possession. I would have thought the Saints quant team would have seen it also, and changes made to address the absolute brutal “wearing that hiney out” of the defense. Running, even if the play/series fails would at least give the defense time to make it to the bench and cop a squat before getting back up.

wrt This upcoming game, stopping Cook is obvious, make Cousins beat you in the air. I have confidence in our coverage, don’t let Cousins get confident or allow Jefferson/Thielen to dictate the pace of the game..., bully them at the line of scrimmage. Jefferson has 21 plays rated as “big” (big = run plays covering 12+ yards and pass plays covering 16+ yards, iirc). He can not be allowed to run free without help.

A not so obvious point is Minnesota’s inability to stop the opposing team’s 4th down conversions. Minnesnowta’s opponents have been in 4th down position 22 times and 15 of them were converted, for an amazingly high 68.2% conversion rate. If I cross midfield, I go for it on anything 4th & 2 and under, every time.

jeanpierre 12-23-2020 11:17 PM

Re: KC Plan Against Kamara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 908911)
We had 17 rushes and 34 pass attempts with Kamara averaging 4.9 YPC on 11 carries.

KC didn’t take Kamara out, Sean Payton did.

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