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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by blackangold Your reaching here... Please go back and pull the specific plays your referencing where he missed assignments and it’s objectively proven it was on him. Oh wait, you can’t? That’s ok there is a website that ...

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Old 12-28-2020, 09:23 PM   #1
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Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles

Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
Your reaching here...

Please go back and pull the specific plays your referencing where he missed assignments and it’s objectively proven it was on him. Oh wait, you can’t? That’s ok there is a website that does that for you called pro football focus. Guess what, they have people assigned to watch every player on every play and assign a grade for that play... and wouldn’t you know it PFF happen to rank Alex much better than Kwon.

But hey, let’s ignore the unbiased opinion of highly respected third party rating team(of which professional scouting team have contracts with) and use our opinions alone instead. Or we can do what CSC did with their sloppy write up on how well Kwon did against potent offenses like SF and Denver...lol

It's not a reach to state Anzalone played less each game as the season progressed. Not is it a reach to state he was benched. I'm secure in both statements because they're FACT.

I don't understand your sarcasm and I really don't care what a stat website says. When's the last time you heard a Head Coach quote PFF stats? I'll wait..... The bottom line is Anzalone was BENCHED for Kwon Alexander because the coaches saw enough.

I hope I'm wrong and Anzalone plays lights out. I'm wrong A LOT and I'll be the first one here to say I was wrong. But until he does, I'll be concerned about his lack of playmaking ability in the playoffs.
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Old 12-28-2020, 10:37 PM   #2
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It's not a reach to state Anzalone played less each game as the season progressed. Not is it a reach to state he was benched. I'm secure in both statements because they're FACT.

I don't understand your sarcasm and I really don't care what a stat website says. When's the last time you heard a Head Coach quote PFF stats? I'll wait..... The bottom line is Anzalone was BENCHED for Kwon Alexander because the coaches saw enough.

I hope I'm wrong and Anzalone plays lights out. I'm wrong A LOT and I'll be the first one here to say I was wrong. But until he does, I'll be concerned about his lack of playmaking ability in the playoffs.
Failed to address any points... didn’t point out a specific play, can’t refute a highly touted and multi-million dollar business on scouting and player ratings. It’s ok I didn’t expect you to.

Lol
Here you go- multiple teams and head coaches talking about using PFF. Also worth noting all 32 pro teams and 80+ College teams use the data for scouting and player insight. Wow, that took all of 30 seconds to find... https://www.pff.com/team-services

For the record, I don’t care about Alex and would rather see Baun get a shot. However, so many of you are delusional in thinking Kwon was this amazing player and our D will suck without him.... wake up.

The Saints are 0-42 when running the ball less than 15 times in a game.
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Old 12-29-2020, 05:55 AM   #3
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Failed to address any points... didn’t point out a specific play, can’t refute a highly touted and multi-million dollar business on scouting and player ratings. It’s ok I didn’t expect you to.

Lol
Here you go- multiple teams and head coaches talking about using PFF. Also worth noting all 32 pro teams and 80+ College teams use the data for scouting and player insight. Wow, that took all of 30 seconds to find... https://www.pff.com/team-services

For the record, I don’t care about Alex and would rather see Baun get a shot. However, so many of you are delusional in thinking Kwon was this amazing player and our D will suck without him.... wake up.

I addressed the facts that led to Alex being benched. You sent me a link that used quotes from a "NFL Coach"... Ha! That's about as definitive as a "Source at the White House". Show me a video of an NFL Head Coach saying player X's PFF grades are low so we're addressing it with him. It doesn't happen. And by the way, scouts use a mountain of data including new technology to try to gain an edge. PFF is probably a part of it, but in no way the definitive source for information.

You're also mistaken in calling members here delusional. I haven't read a single post referring to Kwon as "amazing", in fact many have cited his missed tackles and over-aggressive play as potential problems. I haven't read a single post saying "our D will suck without him"... That's

Again - when a benched player who had fallen out of favor is forced back into a starting role for the playoffs, people who wonder if he'll be a liability are justified.
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
I addressed the facts that led to Alex being benched. You sent me a link that used quotes from a "NFL Coach"... Ha! That's about as definitive as a "Source at the White House". Show me a video of an NFL Head Coach saying player X's PFF grades are low so we're addressing it with him. It doesn't happen. And by the way, scouts use a mountain of data including new technology to try to gain an edge. PFF is probably a part of it, but in no way the definitive source for information.

You're also mistaken in calling members here delusional. I haven't read a single post referring to Kwon as "amazing", in fact many have cited his missed tackles and over-aggressive play as potential problems. I haven't read a single post saying "our D will suck without him"... That's

Again - when a benched player who had fallen out of favor is forced back into a starting role for the playoffs, people who wonder if he'll be a liability are justified.
It quotes Mike Holmgren and 2 others directly, but I never would use it alone, it's 1 interesting tool.

Members here are delusional... look no further than AG and YOU

There are folks on here proclaiming the end of our D, you'll find them if you look.
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It quotes Mike Holmgren and 2 others directly, but I never would use it alone, it's 1 interesting tool.

Members here are delusional... look no further than AG and YOU

There are folks on here proclaiming the end of our D, you'll find them if you look.
If delusional means I am completely confident that we have the best team in the NFL and will absolutely win our second Lombardi, yes I plead guilty. If my believing that losing Alexander is not going to have a material effect on our achieving those goals, then color me delusional.
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If delusional means I am completely confident that we have the best team in the NFL and will absolutely win our second Lombardi, yes I plead guilty. If my believing that losing Alexander is not going to have a material effect on our achieving those goals, then color me delusional.


DELUSIONAL! Just kidding Guido. You're a die hard fan.....who is a little delusional now and then. It's OK. We all do that. It's why race horses wear blinders.
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Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
It quotes Mike Holmgren and 2 others directly, but I never would use it alone, it's 1 interesting tool.

Members here are delusional... look no further than AG and YOU

There are folks on here proclaiming the end of our D, you'll find them if you look.
Mike Holmgren? LOL. Does he even use the internet??
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It's not a reach to state Anzalone played less each game as the season progressed. Not is it a reach to state he was benched. I'm secure in both statements because they're FACT.

I don't understand your sarcasm and I really don't care what a stat website says. When's the last time you heard a Head Coach quote PFF stats? I'll wait..... The bottom line is Anzalone was BENCHED for Kwon Alexander because the coaches saw enough.

I hope I'm wrong and Anzalone plays lights out. I'm wrong A LOT and I'll be the first one here to say I was wrong. But until he does, I'll be concerned about his lack of playmaking ability in the playoffs.
PFF is not a stat website. It is just the opposite. PFF ignores most stats and assigns grade values to how well a player performs his job.

Check this out ... LEARN ABOUT PFF PLAYER GRADES.

If Anzalone was near as bad as you imply he wouldn't be on the active roster at all.
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PFF is not a stat website. It is just the opposite. PFF ignores most stats and assigns grade values to how well a player performs his job.

Check this out ... LEARN ABOUT PFF PLAYER GRADES.

If Anzalone was near as bad as you imply he wouldn't be on the active roster at all.
I actually pointed out where I felt Alex was better than Kwon. How’s that implying he shouldn’t be on this team? We’ll all find out soon enough!
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