Sean Payton and Aaron Rodgers on new Saints WR Jake Kumerow

jeanpierre · 12-30-2020, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Why has he bounced around the league for four years?

Marques Colston 2.0. Marques Colston probably would have bounced around because most OCs lack the vision to use his unique skill-set to gain matchup advantages...

Kumerow isn't going to wow you coming off the line with suddenness as Sean refers, but he's got requisite straight-line NFL speed, and the size to lean over smaller DBs in a mismatch and move the sticks...

Jake transferred from Illinois to Wisconsin-Whitewater, DIV III football, so his development was stunted; his Bengals WR coach was James Urban, the only time Urban has been a WR coach, so not a lot of work there...

Jake's also been on IR twice (the traditional IR); so that's also stunted his growth; and it really wasn't until he went to GB that he got to play with a good QB; GB went low and Jake and agent overplayed market...

He ended up in BUF, and the Saints caught BUF trying to save money and that's how we got him...

Jake is wicked smart, grew up in a football family, so he grew up watching film on Sundays with his NFL Dad; Joey and Nick Bosa are his first cousins...

I've been real big on his since the 2015 draft; but don't be surprised if he has a renaissance here in NO as his skill-set is very comparable to Marques Colston...

K Major · 12-30-2020, 05:25 PM

Speaking of WR's …

I heard Nick U say that 3quan is still recovering (ankle) from surgery ?? Does that mean no post season for him?

jeanpierre · 12-30-2020, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Speaking of WR's …

I heard Nick U say that 3quan is still recovering (ankle) from surgery ?? Does that mean no post season for him?

Exactly, and then there's recovery of conditioning...

We've likely seen the last days of Tre'Quan in the black and gold...

I'm really excited having WRx Jake Kumerow and WRz Emmanuel Sanders on the outside and WRs Mike Thomas doing his usual, unstoppable damage in the slot...

And bringing in Deonte Harris as a change of pace...

dizzle88 · 12-30-2020, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Exactly, and then there's recovery of conditioning...

We've likely seen the last days of Tre'Quan in the black and gold...

I'm really excited having WRx Jake Kumerow and WRz Emmanuel Sanders on the outside and WRs Mike Thomas doing his usual, unstoppable damage in the slot...

And bringing in Deonte Harris as a change of pace...

I'd say Callaway instead of Kumerow, the guy is proving to be something special.

jeanpierre · 12-30-2020, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'd say Callaway instead of Kumerow, the guy is proving to be something special.

Callaway is getting forced-fed, which I actually like seeing rookies thrown in right away vs development...

Jake is a better outside option now, because of experience, so that's my reasoning...

Callaway, staying on his tract, should be a Saint for a number of years, so we're definitely in agreement there...

TheOak · 12-31-2020, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

We don’t need receivers. We’ve played without them for 3 weeks.

What got you here, won’t get you into Super Bowl LV.

dizzle88 · 12-31-2020, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

What got you here, won’t get you into Super Bowl LV.

Bingo.

We torched regular season teams with Kamara and Mike T for years, only for them to get schemed against in the playoffs.

We need Sanders, Callaway, Trautman and Cook to be on their game, because Teams will scheme against Kamara and Thomas again.

jeanpierre · 12-31-2020, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Bingo.

We torched regular season teams with Kamara and Mike T for years, only for them to get schemed against in the playoffs.

We need Sanders, Callaway, Trautman and Cook to be on their game, because Teams will scheme against Kamara and Thomas again.

Yep. There's a reason those teams are in the playoffs as well...

It's the Belichick Theorem - Take away what your opponent likes to do most...

jeanpierre · 01-02-2021, 07:18 PM

Scouting Combine: Nick Bosa on Jake Kumerow - YouTube

jeanpierre · 01-02-2021, 07:23 PM

Jake Kumerow Tells His Story on the 5th Quarter Show - YouTube

12-30-2020, 05:02 PM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sean Payton and Aaron Rodgers on new Saints WR Jake Kumerow Originally Posted by SmashMouth Why has he bounced around the league for four years? Marques Colston 2.0. Marques Colston probably would have bounced around because most OCs lack the vision to use his unique skill-set to gain matchup advantages... Kumerow isn't going to wow you coming off the line with suddenness as Sean refers, but he's got requisite straight-line NFL speed, and the size to lean over smaller DBs in a mismatch and move the sticks... Jake transferred from Illinois to Wisconsin-Whitewater, DIV III football, so his development was stunted; his Bengals WR coach was James Urban, the only time Urban has been a WR coach, so not a lot of work there... Jake's also been on IR twice (the traditional IR); so that's also stunted his growth; and it really wasn't until he went to GB that he got to play with a good QB; GB went low and Jake and agent overplayed market... He ended up in BUF, and the Saints caught BUF trying to save money and that's how we got him... Jake is wicked smart, grew up in a football family, so he grew up watching film on Sundays with his NFL Dad; Joey and Nick Bosa are his first cousins... I've been real big on his since the 2015 draft; but don't be surprised if he has a renaissance here in NO as his skill-set is very comparable to Marques Colston... Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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12-30-2020, 05:25 PM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton and Aaron Rodgers on new Saints WR Jake Kumerow Speaking of WR's … I heard Nick U say that 3quan is still recovering (ankle) from surgery ?? Does that mean no post season for him? jeanpierre likes this.

12-30-2020, 08:22 PM	#13
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sean Payton and Aaron Rodgers on new Saints WR Jake Kumerow Originally Posted by K Major Speaking of WR's … I heard Nick U say that 3quan is still recovering (ankle) from surgery ?? Does that mean no post season for him? Exactly, and then there's recovery of conditioning... We've likely seen the last days of Tre'Quan in the black and gold... I'm really excited having WRx Jake Kumerow and WRz Emmanuel Sanders on the outside and WRs Mike Thomas doing his usual, unstoppable damage in the slot... And bringing in Deonte Harris as a change of pace... K Major likes this.

12-30-2020, 08:26 PM	#14
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Sean Payton and Aaron Rodgers on new Saints WR Jake Kumerow Originally Posted by jeanpierre Exactly, and then there's recovery of conditioning... We've likely seen the last days of Tre'Quan in the black and gold... I'm really excited having WRx Jake Kumerow and WRz Emmanuel Sanders on the outside and WRs Mike Thomas doing his usual, unstoppable damage in the slot... And bringing in Deonte Harris as a change of pace... I'd say Callaway instead of Kumerow, the guy is proving to be something special. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-30-2020, 08:31 PM	#15
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sean Payton and Aaron Rodgers on new Saints WR Jake Kumerow Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'd say Callaway instead of Kumerow, the guy is proving to be something special. Callaway is getting forced-fed, which I actually like seeing rookies thrown in right away vs development... Jake is a better outside option now, because of experience, so that's my reasoning... Callaway, staying on his tract, should be a Saint for a number of years, so we're definitely in agreement there... dizzle88 and K Major like this.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Sean Payton and Aaron Rodgers on new Saints WR Jake Kumerow Originally Posted by The Dude We don’t need receivers. We’ve played without them for 3 weeks. What got you here, won’t get you into Super Bowl LV.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Sean Payton and Aaron Rodgers on new Saints WR Jake Kumerow Originally Posted by TheOak What got you here, won’t get you into Super Bowl LV. Bingo. We torched regular season teams with Kamara and Mike T for years, only for them to get schemed against in the playoffs. We need Sanders, Callaway, Trautman and Cook to be on their game, because Teams will scheme against Kamara and Thomas again.

12-31-2020, 04:45 PM	#18
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sean Payton and Aaron Rodgers on new Saints WR Jake Kumerow Originally Posted by dizzle88 Bingo. We torched regular season teams with Kamara and Mike T for years, only for them to get schemed against in the playoffs. We need Sanders, Callaway, Trautman and Cook to be on their game, because Teams will scheme against Kamara and Thomas again. Yep. There's a reason those teams are in the playoffs as well... It's the Belichick Theorem - Take away what your opponent likes to do most... K Major likes this.