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Everyone has there opinion it’s a good one, but I’ll take Brees one more. And yes 6-10 is a bad assessment Payton would have the next one ready for better than that.


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I’m sorry, but with all due respect I completely disagree. During some of these 6-10 seasons you complain about Drew was 5,000 yards passing and the best QB in the league while the D was setting records for being historically bad. Looking back at past years and trying to blame the QB play for not getting a second SB title is way off.

R Wilson is still trying to win his second SB. So is Rogers. Manning had to ride the coattails of a historically good D to get his second. Stafford, Ryan, Newton, Rivers, Romo, Smith and dozens of first round draft pick QBs never got even one.

The question is how is the best way to move forward. Even if we ignore the money/cap situation (A silly thing to do) the way Brees has performed this year considering the massive amount of injuries the Saints have had to endure to the offensive skill positions tells me that he is still able to perform at
A level that matches or exceeds most other QBs that would be a available in the off season.

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And those 2 losses were the Rams game that was a Fix from the ref ls and at Chicago in his first year with the Saints. Was the Minnesota Miracle his fault too? How about the Niner drive where V Davis caught the game winner with practically no time left. I guess Beast Mode was his bad too.

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Agreed, Brees is pretty much the only reason that this team even won 7 games when he was given the #32 ranked D, year after year.

He was the lone bright spot for many years.

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Ah-friggin-men!

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Drew is the starting QB because he IS THE BEST QB ON THE ROSTER. If Drew returns for the 2021 season with Hill and Winston on the roster he will still be the best QB on the team going into preseason... Bet against Drew ... not happening here.

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I would absolutely love Dak in NOLA!!!!

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I don’t think Dak’s going anywhere other than Dallas, but I agree!

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I watch my Saints to be entertained. They play the games to be entertainers. The games are televised as entertainment. I was FAR more entertained when the Saints went 13-3 last year than any year when they went 6-10. To me THAT is a huge difference. Brees led teams have had double digit wins nine times, a feat which had only been accomplished FIVE times before in Saints history. And, yes, I know the first 11 years of our history they only played 14 games. I also know they never won more than five of those 14 games over that stretch.

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Dallas fans don't deserve him, but I think you're right. He's Jerry's guy apparently.

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Me too but I think Jerry and Stephen will make it right on contract negotiations this off season.

He was having a MVP type season before the unfortunate injury.

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AG, you’re a DB#9 homer, first and foremost. We all saw it in game chats when ppl call him out for his bad play, even getting so upset to quit the chat..., while simultaneously being hyper-critical of each and every play with someone under center who isn’t DB#9.

Me personally, I don’t care who’s under center. Truly don’t. I just want to see results, and those results should be championships, NOT individual records (meaningless to me). Nothing wrong with holding DB#9’s jock strap for him, if that makes you..., and others happy. But, me personally, I hold nobody’s jock strap. Every player is replaceable, so is every coach.

“Entertainment” is subjective. Super Bowl ring collection isn’t.

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Unless my understanding is very wrong the Saints are very limited in their QB options next year based on Brees current contract. Options are

1) He plays as QB next year under current or renegotiated deal.
2) A new QB drafted and playing under a Rookie contract is the starter.
3) Taysom Hill
4) Winston or some other QB who will be willing to play for about 5 million dollars because Brees counts 20 + mill against the cap even if he isn’t on the team.

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If anything short of a Super Bowl win is the do all end all for you I feel sorry for you then. Maybe you would have been happier if you had become a Patriots fan 20 years ago. For myself, Brees was the best thing that ever happened to the Saints had we won the Lombardi or not. But, first and foremost, I am a Saints fan. I have been since the beginning and win, lose or draw I'll be there watching and enjoying each game. Watching individual records is part of that enjoyment. If that doesn't blow your skirt up then that is your prerogative.

And, by the way, his name is Drew Brees. But, when winning is more important than player loyalty, I get it.

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That's pretty much it.

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Rereading this brought up more response. First, I made the mistake to join a chat a few weeks back. I knew that was a mistake going in from past experience some time back. Those chats are are filled with b!tching and moaning about this and that. In other words, being "hyper-critical", which is apparently fine unless I am the one attempting to engage in the same behavior. Go figure.

But, don't worry, I'll be back to avoiding those b!tch and moan sessions again moving foreword.

Secondly, if you have access to Drew's jockstrap could you have him autograph it and send it to me? I'm sure I can find a place on my Saints Shrine.

:bng:

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Are you talking about those loosing season where Peyton was suspended and we were coached by amateurs or the ones where we set records in defensive futility?

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What y'all are looking past is that Payton and Brees have been attached at the hip through the entire Saints run of success. When Brees calls it quits I can easily see Payton doing the same soon thereafter, albeit moving to another franchise. Payton to Dallas when Brees retires? I can see that happen.

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Yea; in 2022 or 2023. Brees is the best option Saints have to get into
the year end playoffs for the next year or two.

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Yup!

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I'd like to see Brees one more year. Then Taysom. Draft a QB to develop - bye bye winston.

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Why would ANY head coach leave this team? Especially Payton. They are set for some years to come with great players. Brees went down last year. Team won 6 in a row. Went down this year the team went 3 and 1. Grass is greener somewhere else is either HUGE money or family.

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My selfish feelings mixed with payroll realities would be that Drew returns next year (after a second Super Bowl MVP) and they draft a QB. A year under Brees and Payton and year 2 he’s ready to go. That allows signings for Latt, Ram, etc. Calloway is a player, so with him Thomas and Kamara the O should be able to keep going.

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In the world of probability this is correct; in the world of possibility with Loomis and Payton, we could see Peat or Brady under center next year.

Ignore how we generally look at the cap because the cap is set based on previous years revenues. While the cap has historically increased year over year, 2020 is the first down revenue year in quite some time, expect the cap to be lowered +/- 20-25MM.

A 20MM reduced cap is going to put some talent on the streets for all teams.

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Drew Brees, you talking about the sellout? I won't say how I really feel because I'll lose my announcer position.

Bend over when told to STFU by a teammate really shows his sensitive side

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/overthe...situation/amp/


If Brees is 100% certain he is going to retire the Saints can reduce his salary to the league minimum of $1.075 million. That would allow the Saints to drop his salary cap number from $36.15 million to $12.2225 million a savings of $23.925 million. The team would have to carry Brees as an active player until June 2nd at which point they would officially place him on the retired list and receive the June 1 cap benefit. Rather than taking on $22.65 million in dead money in 2021 the team would only have an $11.15 million charge for Brees in 2021 and $11.5 million in 2022.

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Brees has repeated that he is going to approach this off-season in exactly the same manner as the past several. Once the season is over he is going to take a few weeks to assess things. He said he would once again determine if he still loved the game, evaluate his play, and evaluate his health after that period of reflection. If he feels that all three are positive he is likely to return. If any of those are not to his liking he may make the decision to retire. Only he and his family will have any idea of what his plans are at that time. All of this talk about "expected to retire" is just that ... talk.

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AG, Brees is as competitive as they come. He will always love the game.
As for his level of play, he is and would be next year playing at an elite level.
He's still healthy, despite the injuries received the past two seasons.
Family; I don't think his kids want him to quit yet, there at the ages where they love being part of this ride. His wife I think is neutral.

C'mon Drew, you still got it. I would like to be able to attend at least
one more game LIVE before your done.

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I am right there with all of those assessments, gulfgambler.

:bng:

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My post had nothing to do if he walks really or not. Just something to show if he does the option is in place to not eat all the dead money in one season.

Personally I think if he does walk you try to eat as much as you can in one year and use the year to rebuild asap to set up long term success. But that's a story for a different thread. The team cannot afford to not be looking at the possibility he doesn't return though.

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It seems you likely have never been a manager nor a leader of an organized team of any kind.

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Drew mentioned that he loves playing the game while his kids are now old enough to see him play . The older the kids get the more they want there dad to keep playing I’m sure.


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I know that. You just pasted the scenario where he basically comes out and says he's retiring immediately after the season. Also included in the article is the scenario where he immediately commits to playing another year. I was just pointing out that these two scenarios are very unlikely given what he has said recently (as in the last few weeks). The other scenario addressed what is likely to happen.

"What if Brees is not sure he wants to retire and acts a bit like Brett Favre at the end of his career? One option is to add more void years to the contract, reduce his salary as above, and convert the $23.925 million to an option bonus that is due after the first game of the season. Under that type of contract Brees would count for $17.01 million, a savings of $19.14 million. If Brees does decide to retire the team would get the same savings as in the first scenario since the option would never be exercised. If he plays then you have a lot more dead money to deal with in 2022 but that is the price of Brees returning."

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Depending how this playoff run goes and Brees’s performance down the stretch will be 30-40 % of the offseason decision to return. Makeup of the team and Payton/ Loomis’s process of eliminating those that can be replace that have not performed up to expectation and pay grade and who they keep as a supporting cast should he return ... 25+30%. The final part is his desire to continue will drive the decision if the Managment side gets the job done. I expect nothing from the Managment side.

The structure with a couple of /backup/starter quality backup on the roster leave a lot positives that could drive Drews decision.

Quality person and athlete and would not make the decision to stay if he did not feel he had something left to give for the benefit of this team and organization.

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After one and done in the playoffs Brees is done. The Bears are exactly the sort of team to knock us out yet again.

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38-19 saints, that is all


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https://www.kendrickhome.net/wp-cont...m-and-Doom.jpg

:rolleyes:

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I don't see them managing 19 points.

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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...82/322/fd1.gif

No confidence in the 2020 Saints squad?

I watched the Bears at great length last weekend vs GB and came away with meh … Mitch is still a pick 6 waiting to happen, Jimmy Graham is slow has alligator arms & disappears late, Allen Robinson is the only playmaker who has become frustrated & coach Nagy often times abandons his run game. IIRC Roquan Smith and the kid WR from Tulane could be out on Sunday. That would be huge losses on both sides of the ball. Saints present a bad match up for them.

It's the Playoffs - Any Given Sunday but the Bears ain't defeating New Orleans this weekend.