SI.com/Bob Rose | Saints Assistants Getting Attention from NFL Teams

jeanpierre · 01-04-2021, 04:51 PM

AsylumGuido · 01-04-2021, 04:57 PM

Things will heat up even more after we win our second Lombardi on February 7th.

Yes, the same date as we won our first Lombardi.

No doubt we'll lose a few excellent coaches ... at least in some of our minds. There remain a few that will celebrate.

MatthewT · 01-05-2021, 07:46 AM

It is time for Pete Carmichael to land a head coaching job, way overdue.

SaintGnome · 01-05-2021, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

It is time for Pete Carmichael to land a head coaching job, way overdue.

I would hope so for his sake, but I dunno, Pete doesn't seem to get any credit nationally. Watching games on TV, I can't remember the last time I saw him on camera. Sean gets all national credit for our O. I think we'll lose DA first.

dizzle88 · 01-06-2021, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I would hope so for his sake, but I dunno, Pete doesn't seem to get any credit nationally. Watching games on TV, I can't remember the last time I saw him on camera. Sean gets all national credit for our O. I think we'll lose DA first.

Fond memories of when Pete took on a bigger role in playcalling in 2011 and our offense literally exploded.

TheOak · 01-06-2021, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

It is time for Pete Carmichael to land a head coaching job, way overdue.

But is he? If I asked my daughter who the offensive coordinator for the Saints is, they would hit the internet and come back with Pete Carmichael. If I asked any of you or our opponents who coordinates and runs the offense the response would be Sean Payton. I don’t recall anyone yelling “*^%#ing Pete” after a questionable play.

If Pete were (already has interviewed for the Bears in 2013) offered a position on another team it would be to get insights on Sean Payton and Pete knows that.

The Bears job would have been the stepping stone to a HC position... he didn’t take it. If he has the skill sets that we assume, he would be the heir apparent to Sean Payton.

AsylumGuido · 01-06-2021, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

But is he? If I asked my daughter who the offensive coordinator for the Saints is, they would hit the internet and come back with Pete Carmichael. If I asked any of you or our opponents who coordinates and runs the offense the response would be Sean Payton. I don’t recall anyone yelling “*^%#ing Pete” after a questionable play.

If Pete were (already has interviewed for the Bears in 2013) offered a position on another team it would be to get insights on Sean Payton and Pete knows that.

The Bears job would have been the stepping stone to a HC position... he didn’t take it. If he has the skill sets that we assume, he would be the heir apparent to Sean Payton.

I expect Payton to leave soon after Brees decides to retire. Another reason why I hope Brees decides to continue past this season.

TheOak · 01-07-2021, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I expect Payton to leave soon after Brees decides to retire. Another reason why I hope Brees decides to continue past this season.

I am not sure what to expect from Payton as I do not know what his personal drivers are. He has a net worth of +/- $25M, 1 Super Bowl trophy, 26th all time winning-est coach in the NFL, and at 56 years old he is young even by NFL standards with 9 HCs older than he is.

Does he want another SB trophy with the Saints.
Does he want another SB trophy with a different team to help get him into the HoF.
Does he want another SB with a different QB to speak to his skillset and remove the Brees shadow.
Is he comfortable where he lives and wants to work the rest of his career out living in New Orleans
Is he tired and only wants to coach Drew
Does his GF play a part in his future
Will his children effect whether he wants to live in or move out of New Orleans.

Only he knows these answers and I would take everything he says publicly with a grain of salt, he has a line to tow while he is under contract.

Rugby Saint II · 01-07-2021, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I expect Payton to leave soon after Brees decides to retire. Another reason why I hope Brees decides to continue past this season.

Please explain why he would leave New Orleans. I just don't see it. This franchise is literally built around him.

TheOak · 01-07-2021, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Please explain why he would leave New Orleans. I just don't see it. This franchise is literally built around him.

I’d go as far as to say he built this franchise, at least the last 14 years which it notably its mode successful period.

I know a lot of people call him arrogant but I can’t think of a successful NFL coach that isn’t/wasn’t.. Lombardi, Schula, Landry, Belichik, Parcells, Gruden, all have the same character trait, they were arrogant and full of hubris. Not Jerry Jones sort of obnoxious arrogance but a more subdued arrogance.

A certain level of it is required to lead men into a combat environment.

01-04-2021, 04:51 PM	#1
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01-04-2021, 04:57 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: SI.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Assistants Getting Attention from NFL Teams Things will heat up even more after we win our second Lombardi on February 7th. Yes, the same date as we won our first Lombardi. No doubt we'll lose a few excellent coaches ... at least in some of our minds. There remain a few that will celebrate.

01-05-2021, 07:46 AM	#3
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: SI.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Assistants Getting Attention from NFL Teams It is time for Pete Carmichael to land a head coaching job, way overdue.

01-05-2021, 06:30 PM	#4
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: SI.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Assistants Getting Attention from NFL Teams Originally Posted by MatthewT It is time for Pete Carmichael to land a head coaching job, way overdue. I would hope so for his sake, but I dunno, Pete doesn't seem to get any credit nationally. Watching games on TV, I can't remember the last time I saw him on camera. Sean gets all national credit for our O. I think we'll lose DA first. dizzle88 likes this.

01-06-2021, 01:33 AM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: SI.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Assistants Getting Attention from NFL Teams Originally Posted by SaintGnome I would hope so for his sake, but I dunno, Pete doesn't seem to get any credit nationally. Watching games on TV, I can't remember the last time I saw him on camera. Sean gets all national credit for our O. I think we'll lose DA first. Fond memories of when Pete took on a bigger role in playcalling in 2011 and our offense literally exploded.

01-06-2021, 08:21 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: SI.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Assistants Getting Attention from NFL Teams Originally Posted by MatthewT It is time for Pete Carmichael to land a head coaching job, way overdue. But is he? If I asked my daughter who the offensive coordinator for the Saints is, they would hit the internet and come back with Pete Carmichael. If I asked any of you or our opponents who coordinates and runs the offense the response would be Sean Payton. I don’t recall anyone yelling “*^%#ing Pete” after a questionable play. If Pete were (already has interviewed for the Bears in 2013) offered a position on another team it would be to get insights on Sean Payton and Pete knows that. The Bears job would have been the stepping stone to a HC position... he didn’t take it. If he has the skill sets that we assume, he would be the heir apparent to Sean Payton.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

01-06-2021, 08:30 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: SI.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Assistants Getting Attention from NFL Teams Originally Posted by TheOak But is he? If I asked my daughter who the offensive coordinator for the Saints is, they would hit the internet and come back with Pete Carmichael. If I asked any of you or our opponents who coordinates and runs the offense the response would be Sean Payton. I don’t recall anyone yelling “^%#ing Pete” after a questionable play. If Pete were (already has interviewed for the Bears in 2013) offered a position on another team it would be to get insights on Sean Payton and Pete knows that. The Bears job would have been the stepping stone to a HC position... he didn’t take it. If he has the skill sets that we assume, he would be the heir apparent to Sean Payton*. I expect Payton to leave soon after Brees decides to retire. Another reason why I hope Brees decides to continue past this season.

01-07-2021, 06:52 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: SI.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Assistants Getting Attention from NFL Teams Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I expect Payton to leave soon after Brees decides to retire. Another reason why I hope Brees decides to continue past this season. I am not sure what to expect from Payton as I do not know what his personal drivers are. He has a net worth of +/- $25M, 1 Super Bowl trophy, 26th all time winning-est coach in the NFL, and at 56 years old he is young even by NFL standards with 9 HCs older than he is. Does he want another SB trophy with the Saints. Does he want another SB trophy with a different team to help get him into the HoF. Does he want another SB with a different QB to speak to his skillset and remove the Brees shadow. Is he comfortable where he lives and wants to work the rest of his career out living in New Orleans Is he tired and only wants to coach Drew Does his GF play a part in his future Will his children effect whether he wants to live in or move out of New Orleans. Only he knows these answers and I would take everything he says publicly with a grain of salt, he has a line to tow while he is under contract. gosaints1, Thirty3 and Boston Saint like this.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

01-07-2021, 09:59 AM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: SI.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Assistants Getting Attention from NFL Teams Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I expect Payton to leave soon after Brees decides to retire. Another reason why I hope Brees decides to continue past this season. Please explain why he would leave New Orleans. I just don't see it. This franchise is literally built around him.

01-07-2021, 10:45 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: SI.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Assistants Getting Attention from NFL Teams Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Please explain why he would leave New Orleans. I just don't see it. This franchise is literally built around him. I’d go as far as to say he built this franchise, at least the last 14 years which it notably its mode successful period. I know a lot of people call him arrogant but I can’t think of a successful NFL coach that isn’t/wasn’t.. Lombardi, Schula, Landry, Belichik, Parcells, Gruden, all have the same character trait, they were arrogant and full of hubris. Not Jerry Jones sort of obnoxious arrogance but a more subdued arrogance. A certain level of it is required to lead men into a combat environment. iceshack149 likes this.
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