N/S Your take on the XFL

hitta · 02-12-2020, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

No Sir. I am under zero illusion that a pure free market exists, just like I am under zero illusion that any company exists without the assistance of public tax dollars. Even one man S-Corps (Sole Proprietorships) get assistance (financial backing) from the SBA. Similarly I am not under the illusion that the XFL is a small business trying to get started. You are singing that song very loudly 'the small guy with no power is lucky and has no chance'.

What you may or may not know is that the XFL is not a fledgling company, it is an extension of WWE Wrestling (5.7BN valuation), Alfa Entertainment (3.2BN valuation), and Vince McMahon's (Net Worth is 2BN)... The CEO and Commissioner Oliver Luck ran for Congress, was drafted by the Houston Oilers, was GM of 2 NFL Europe teams, and was Executive Vice President of Regulatory Affairs of the NCAA...

Vince McMahon sold $272MM in stock to start the XFL... when the XFL walks into an office, it isn't fu0king Gepetto the pore cobbler with hat in hand looking for a handout. Its the paragraph above leveraging all of its might.

You've been sold on an ideal and its not reality.

Anything further and I am repeating myself.

I've already said I had high hopes for the XFL,because it had strong financial backing. I've already stated that I think there are several things that the XFL does better than the NFL and I'd love to see the XFL really challenge the NFL. The only thing I'm trying to point out is its hard to knock the NFL off the top because it is so ingrained in network that is society. It has all the legal advantages and help from other corporate entities. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I was arguing that the XFL was "Gepetto the pore cobbler with hat in hand looking for a handout". I've never once made that assertion.

AsylumGuido · 02-12-2020, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

I've already said I had high hopes for the XFL,because it had strong financial backing. I've already stated that I think there are several things that the XFL does better than the NFL and I'd love to see the XFL really challenge the NFL. The only thing I'm trying to point out is its hard to knock the NFL off the top because it is so ingrained in network that is society. It has all the legal advantages and help from other corporate entities. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I was arguing that the XFL was "Gepetto the pore cobbler with hat in hand looking for a handout". I've never once made that assertion.

I see where you are coming from, but, as much as you would love to see the XFL "challenge" the NFL it is never going to happen nor do they want it to happen. The only thing that could keep the XFL viable for the long term would be for them to stick to their model of keeping the league affordable and entertaining for the potential fans and being a complimentary league to the NFL. Any attempt to actually compete would be financially suicidal and they know that.

02-12-2020, 09:35 AM	#1
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,342	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Originally Posted by TheOak No Sir. I am under zero illusion that a pure free market exists, just like I am under zero illusion that any company exists without the assistance of public tax dollars. Even one man S-Corps (Sole Proprietorships) get assistance (financial backing) from the SBA. Similarly I am not under the illusion that the XFL is a small business trying to get started. You are singing that song very loudly 'the small guy with no power is lucky and has no chance'. What you may or may not know is that the XFL is not a fledgling company, it is an extension of WWE Wrestling (5.7BN valuation), Alfa Entertainment (3.2BN valuation), and Vince McMahon's (Net Worth is 2BN)... The CEO and Commissioner Oliver Luck ran for Congress, was drafted by the Houston Oilers, was GM of 2 NFL Europe teams, and was Executive Vice President of Regulatory Affairs of the NCAA... Vince McMahon sold $272MM in stock to start the XFL... when the XFL walks into an office, it isn't fu0king Gepetto the pore cobbler with hat in hand looking for a handout. Its the paragraph above leveraging all of its might. You've been sold on an ideal and its not reality. Anything further and I am repeating myself. I've already said I had high hopes for the XFL,because it had strong financial backing. I've already stated that I think there are several things that the XFL does better than the NFL and I'd love to see the XFL really challenge the NFL. The only thing I'm trying to point out is its hard to knock the NFL off the top because it is so ingrained in network that is society. It has all the legal advantages and help from other corporate entities. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I was arguing that the XFL was "Gepetto the pore cobbler with hat in hand looking for a handout". I've never once made that assertion.
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02-12-2020, 12:19 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,714	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Originally Posted by hitta I've already said I had high hopes for the XFL,because it had strong financial backing. I've already stated that I think there are several things that the XFL does better than the NFL and I'd love to see the XFL really challenge the NFL. The only thing I'm trying to point out is its hard to knock the NFL off the top because it is so ingrained in network that is society. It has all the legal advantages and help from other corporate entities. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I was arguing that the XFL was "Gepetto the pore cobbler with hat in hand looking for a handout". I've never once made that assertion. I see where you are coming from, but, as much as you would love to see the XFL "challenge" the NFL it is never going to happen nor do they want it to happen. The only thing that could keep the XFL viable for the long term would be for them to stick to their model of keeping the league affordable and entertaining for the potential fans and being a complimentary league to the NFL. Any attempt to actually compete would be financially suicidal and they know that.